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Re: shane long

by Maguire » 14 Jan 2010 13:56

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Football Skills: Glancing HeaderOne of the hardest skills to perfect in football is the glancing header


But it is easy because Mags says so.......


LOL

That's properly desperate. I've really got to you, have't I sweetheart?

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Re: shane long

by juanpablo » 14 Jan 2010 13:56

A striker should always finish it but the important thing was the run to get there in the space inbetween defenders in the first place. If you dont know about that then you dont know anything about fusssball fnar fnar fnar

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Re: shane long

by Maguire » 14 Jan 2010 13:59

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Maguire I'm only being condescending because you don't know what you're talking about.

Oh and you do. So what qualifications do you have to assess that anyone could have scored that goal? Ex professional footballer, coaching qualifications......

I think it is more to do with the fact that you are totally biased because of your hatred of Shane Long and even if he had scored a hatrick you would still be criticising him.

Many footballers far better than Shane Long have missed easier chances than his one last night, but if you think that all he had to do was "make contact" to score then it is you who has no idea what he is talking about.

But seeing as you are someone who has the belief that they are a funny and witty contributor to this forum I do not expect a sensible response........


Okay, if you think that header was harder than Ingimarsson's, or Churchs full-stretch diving header then I find it rather :shock: and assume you have never played football in your life. That's the chance I'd fancy myself to score - the other two, certainly not. And by the way, if you're going to use those speech marks ["make contact"] then you might try puting them around something I actually said.

The fact is that one goal in one high-profile game (which was made by a piece of brilliance by another player at that) does not detract from the fact that Long hasn't pulled his (considerable) weight all season. He's workshy, disinterested, and largely lazy. He hasn't scored all season and furthermore hasn't really looked like scoring all season.

I realise this sounds harsh to you happy-clappy scarf-wavers who can't see past the last game but so be it.

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Re: shane long

by SLAMMED » 14 Jan 2010 14:03

LOL @ Arguing after arguably the best FA cup game in our history.

Some things on here never change...

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Re: shane long

by Wycombe Royal » 14 Jan 2010 14:07

Maguire Okay, if you think that header was harder than Ingimarsson's, or Churchs full-stretch diving header then I find it rather :shock:

Again where I have I said that? If you want an argument then please stick to what I have actually written.

I have also never said anything about Long's contribution in the rest of the season, nor on how good a player I think he is or isn't. You see I can look at that goal in isolation which is something you seem unable to do.
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Re: shane long

by Wycombe Royal » 14 Jan 2010 14:09

Maguire
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Football Skills: Glancing HeaderOne of the hardest skills to perfect in football is the glancing header


But it is easy because Mags says so.......


LOL

That's properly desperate. I've really got to you, have't I sweetheart?

Why is it desperate - a website probably written by someone far more qualified than you says the galncing header is a difficult skill. But it doesn't fit your argument so it is "properly desperate".

Find me an article that says the glancing header is an easy skill to perfect.......

And no you haven't got to me, I'm just bored at work.

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Re: shane long

by Tony Le Mesmer » 14 Jan 2010 14:13

Despite that being his 1st goal of the season, there have been so many instances of him coming on and getting us a draw/win. He should have won us 2 more points v Ipswich but for a poor ref decision.

How many penalties has he won? A lot i would guess, he plays for them but is good at it.

He should be on the bench every game because thats what he is good at.

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Re: shane long

by Maguire » 14 Jan 2010 14:23

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Maguire LOL

That's properly desperate. I've really got to you, have't I sweetheart?

Why is it desperate - a website probably written by someone far more qualified than you says the galncing header is a difficult skill. But it doesn't fit your argument so it is "properly desperate".

Find me an article that says the glancing header is an easy skill to perfect.......

And no you haven't got to me, I'm just bored at work.


It's desperate because you've Googled "glancing header", as if Google's going to tell you it was a technically brilliant finish or that every glancing header is the same.

Jim Beglin said last night "Long couldn't miss". He's pretty well-qualified wouldn't you say? The cross made the goal and the finish was the headed equivalent of a tap in.

Anyway, my real beef is that this is going to buy Shane Long even more time from the reactionary masses on here when he's been at the club since 2006 and *still* hasn't made it. Every year people say it'll be his year and it never is. Not being good enough is one thing but not even trying really hacks me off.

Bored at work? I feel that.

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Re: shane long

by brendywendy » 14 Jan 2010 14:27

ive always been impressed with his work rate to be fair so lazy is harsh- though i can see why youd say that after perhaps two of his games this season coming back from injury under rodgers- where he looked chubby, heavy legged and largely disinterested.


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Re: shane long

by Platypuss » 14 Jan 2010 14:31

brendywendy ive always been impressed with his work rate to be fair so lazy is harsh- though i can see why youd say that after perhaps two of his games this season coming back from injury under rodgers- where he looked chubby, heavy legged and largely disinterested.


/Dirk Gently mode on

:evil: uninterested. :evil:

/Dirk Gently mode off

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Re: shane long

by Wycombe Royal » 14 Jan 2010 14:33

Maguire It's desperate because you've Googled "glancing header", as if Google's going to tell you it was a technically brilliant finish or that every glancing header is the same.

Jim Beglin said last night "Long couldn't miss". He's pretty well-qualified wouldn't you say? The cross made the goal and the finish was the headed equivalent of a tap in.

Anyway, my real beef is that this is going to buy Shane Long even more time from the reactionary masses on here when he's been at the club since 2006 and *still* hasn't made it. Every year people say it'll be his year and it never is. Not being good enough is one thing but not even trying really hacks me off.

Bored at work? I feel that.

It isn't desperate at all, just using resources to back up my opinion. As for a pundit using a cliche that backs up your opinion, well that has certainly won the argument. :lol:

He would have said the same if Rasiak had scored, or if Benayoun had scored, but they MISSED.

The simple thing is the glancing header is a difficult skill to get right, especially when under pressure from a defender (yes he was being marked which you can see if you look at the photos on the official site), regardless of how "perfect" the cross is. It is just a case of making contact as you seem to think.

Anyway I think we should just agree to disagreerather than going round in circles, despite it giving me something to do whilst my Essbase spreadsheets are refreshng.......
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Re: shane long

by Ian Royal » 14 Jan 2010 14:34

brendywendy ive always been impressed with his work rate to be fair so lazy is harsh- though i can see why youd say that after perhaps two of his games this season coming back from injury under rodgers- where he looked chubby, heavy legged and largely disinterested.


He's tenacious and works hard to harry defenders to get the ball or win it back after losing it, But I wouldn't say that overall his work rate is good. He tends to just amble about the pitch and wait for things to happen if the ball isn't near the penalty area.

I agree totally with Mags for the record.

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Re: shane long

by Wycombe Royal » 14 Jan 2010 14:36

Ian Royal I agree totally with Mags for the record.

Finally something that proves me right.


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Re: shane long

by Royalee » 14 Jan 2010 14:38

Made a good impact last night as a sub, but as with Gunnarsson, hasn't done enough to earn a regular start thus far. More of the same please.

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Re: shane long

by Wax Jacket » 14 Jan 2010 14:40

Last night's goal was the 18th of Long's Reading career in 118 games - 50 as a starter.

there's stats, fat stats, and really fcuking fat stats, and he belongs in the third category.

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Re: shane long

by Maguire » 14 Jan 2010 14:44

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brendywendy ive always been impressed with his work rate to be fair so lazy is harsh- though i can see why youd say that after perhaps two of his games this season coming back from injury under rodgers- where he looked chubby, heavy legged and largely disinterested.


He's tenacious and works hard to harry defenders to get the ball or win it back after losing it, But I wouldn't say that overall his work rate is good. He tends to just amble about the pitch and wait for things to happen if the ball isn't near the penalty area.

I agree totally with Mags for the record.


That's twice in as many minutes. Our stars are aligning :shock:

Yes, I've exhausted myself/lost interest now Wycombers. We'll agree it was quite a good result, all told

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Re: shane long

by brendywendy » 14 Jan 2010 14:49

Wax Jacket Last night's goal was the 18th of Long's Reading career in 118 games - 50 as a starter.

there's stats, fat stats, and really fcuking fat stats, and he belongs in the third category.


cant argue with FATCTS like that

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Re: shane long

by Man Friday » 14 Jan 2010 16:26

Maguire Jim Beglin said last night "Long couldn't miss". He's pretty well-qualified wouldn't you say?

What, as a bitter, ex-Liverpool player?

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Re: shane long

by Arch » 14 Jan 2010 16:32

Maguire
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Football Skills: Glancing HeaderOne of the hardest skills to perfect in football is the glancing header


But it is easy because Mags says so.......


LOL

That's properly desperate. I've really got to you, have't I sweetheart?

From reading this thread, I'd say you've inexplicably got to yourself.

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Re: shane long

by PEARCEY » 14 Jan 2010 16:36

Christ even when Long comes on and turns the bloody game some of you don't want to give him any credit. Pathetic.
Well done Shane.

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