I'm prepared for embarrassment if someone can dig up something from me saying he'd be shit when we after him / signed him. Preemptive:


by Ian Royal » 26 May 2012 15:35
by Snowball » 26 May 2012 23:55
Ian Royal Was there actually that much opposition to Harte's signing originally? Other than people wanting Bertrand back over him at least. I honestly can't remember. He'd just had a great season for Carlisle and we were desperate for an LB of any sort of quality at all. I can imagine a certain amount of reservation, other than from the usual doomtards of course.
I'm prepared for embarrassment if someone can dig up something from me saying he'd be shit when we after him / signed him. Preemptive:![]()
by Snowball » 27 May 2012 00:06
Ian Royal Was there actually that much opposition to Harte's signing originally? Other than people wanting Bertrand back over him at least. I honestly can't remember. He'd just had a great season for Carlisle and we were desperate for an LB of any sort of quality at all. I can imagine a certain amount of reservation, other than from the usual doomtards of course.
I'm prepared for embarrassment if someone can dig up something from me saying he'd be shit when we after him / signed him. Preemptive:![]()
by winchester_royal » 27 May 2012 00:08
SnowballIan Royal Was there actually that much opposition to Harte's signing originally? Other than people wanting Bertrand back over him at least. I honestly can't remember. He'd just had a great season for Carlisle and we were desperate for an LB of any sort of quality at all. I can imagine a certain amount of reservation, other than from the usual doomtards of course.
I'm prepared for embarrassment if someone can dig up something from me saying he'd be shit when we after him / signed him. Preemptive:![]()
Short memory syndrome, outright lying or senile dementia?
I remember only too well how Harte was "Not good enough for Championship football"
There was a thread with roughly that title
Snowball Harte is sluggish, does get caught out of position at times and isn't the best left back when it comes to defending
by Snowball » 27 May 2012 10:08
Hoop BlahIan Royal I've seen the majority of games this season thanks.
You on the other hand, appear to be blind.
To be fair though IR, you don't see a lot of things on TV coverage.
I know you'll say you see a lot of things better on there as well, but defending is 80% about being in the right place at the right time and snuffing out issues before they happen.
Harte is sluggish, does get caught out of position at times and isn't the best left back when it comes to defending (he is OUR best left back at defending though) because of those weaknesses. When he first signed he played pretty well, both defending and going forward. As he settled down his standards slipped at both ends too.
After getting dropped (a little late in my opinion, but then again he is, as I've said, our best left back) and then coming back into the side he's turned in some better performances and his deadball delivery has got back to where you'd hope it would be. There's no doubting his threat from shooting positions though. In this side his worth as an attacking threat is greater than the gap between him and the next best left back in the squad.
The funny thing is that I don't think there's been an outstanding left back in the Championship this season. Naylor at Cardiff is probably the best one in the league, but he's missed a lot due to injury. Similar story for Drury at Norwich who's been around for a while and is very competent but has missed a couple of months I think. Taylor at 'Boro always looked a promising talent but they've been pretty woeful and he's not played that many games either. Forest have had a number of leftlbacks and I couldn't even tell you who plays there for Leeds (Having said that I just looked and had forgotten all about George McCartney who again has only played 30 games).
That leaves Hill and Harte out of the top teams.
For my money the best left back performance I've seen this season was from the lad Peters (??) of Ipswich. He snuffed Kebe out 100% at Madejski.
by winchester_royal » 27 May 2012 15:19
I DO however, think he will be ripped to shreds in the Premiership
by bigmike » 28 May 2012 07:56
by Upper West Ginger » 30 May 2012 09:44
by Extended-Phenotype » 30 May 2012 10:10
by Snowball » 30 May 2012 13:37
by Extended-Phenotype » 30 May 2012 13:47
Snowball
But, I still think it's a season too far, a league too far and I think
he will be shredded in the Prem.
by pea » 30 May 2012 14:44
by Snowball » 30 May 2012 15:12
Extended-PhenotypeSnowball
But, I still think it's a season too far, a league too far and I think
he will be shredded in the Prem.
On what basis, though?
by Extended-Phenotype » 30 May 2012 15:44
by West Stand Man » 30 May 2012 16:38
Extended-Phenotype 1. Faster wingers
- How many are faster?
2. Trickier wingers
- Surely experience/inteligence is a better tool than pace to deal with trickiness?
3. Cleverer wingers
- Ditto
4. Better, faster, cleverer overlapping FBs to keep McAnuff busier (so harder to help Harte)
- Ditto.
5. Better, cleverer managers
- Than ours?
6. Our CBs under more pressure due to better players attacking them (so harder to help Harte)
- Covering principle remains the same.
7. MUCH better play-makers in midfield able to stretch our defence.
- Gonna happen anyway?
8. Harte a year older, and a fraction slower
- Conjecture.
by pea » 30 May 2012 16:42
by winchester_royal » 31 May 2012 09:45
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by winchester_royal » 31 May 2012 10:11
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