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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by leon » 01 Apr 2013 01:15

disagree. His stock is high. He'll get a job in the Championship.

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Avon Royal » 01 Apr 2013 08:39

melonhead couldnt give a toss about brian tbf. hes gone.


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Like you're fooling anyone........

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Cripple Creek » 01 Apr 2013 08:46

Great to see Brian looking so relaxed and, as usual, decent and honest. What a very honourable bloke he is.

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by percyisfreeman » 01 Apr 2013 09:38

Brian came across very well, hoping he secures a championship team soon, and we see him at the Mad, could be interesting.
Good luck Brian.

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by jellytot » 01 Apr 2013 09:40

I only saw the last 5 or so minutes of the interview with BM and to be honest I found it rather sad. I thought that you could tell that the whole process had taken a lot out of him. Even if he is well-paid he does love the club you can see that and losing your job is pretty horrible. He seemed demonstrably down, I just feel bad about the whole situation.

Collectively the club got the summer horribly wrong. The balls up then has cost us our PL place. You can see that BM deeply regrets not pushing AZ harder for more funds. He definitely saw his Championship winning side through rose tinted glasses. If you compare our squad with Wigan, Villa, Sunderland or Southampton I doubt that more than 2 of our players would get in any of those teams. It is easy with hindsight. But we are ALL thinking what on earth were the club thinking in the summer! It was not a difficult equation to work out. We had a lot of players going up who had either not played in the PL (for good reasons) or players who had failed on previous visits. We added Mariappa, McCleary, Gunter, Guthrie and the Pog... never enough quality!

NA is AZ's appointment and therefore he is under a lot more pressure. I think that this season has been a harsh lesson for AZ. You can see that he hates being on camera perhaps he needs to use someone who can do the talking on his behalf? It cannot be easy. I think that AZ will have to back NA with funds in the summer. NA will have the remaining fixtures to assess the squad and to decide who he wants to stay and who can move on. He will also have a whole pre-season to work with them too. The target must be to bounce straight back at the first attempt. Certainly anything less will be a failure. A top 6 spot is expected.

I am hopeful. NA is a good positive manager who will play football. Not sure we will see much of it this season as we have such a poor squad at this level. Just have to get behind them now and hope that he gets us going. It would be nice NOT to finish bottom! Having seen a lot of the Championship I am not overly worried. It will not be easy but we are more than capable of mounting a challenge so long as we have a good summer..


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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Mr Optimist » 01 Apr 2013 09:43

A lovely guy and a shame how things have worked out after 13 years with us but he must have known that as soon as he took the managers job his time with us would finish whether that be 12 months or 12 years down the line.

I thought he made a significant point about the current owner only being the current custodian of the club for the fans. I would love to see Brian back home at the club in some capacity in the future, whether under the current owner or a future one. Perhaps DOF in a few years if Hammond ever moves on.

Hope he can maintain his genuine love for the club as I'm sure many fans will continue to hold him in the highest regard despite this car crash of a season.

Leicester next for Brian?

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Royal Lady » 01 Apr 2013 14:35

^^ good post Mr Optimist.

I found it most sad he didn't get the chance to say goodbye to the players. Plus, I still think after everything he's done over the last 13 years for this club, and the money he has made us, more could have been made of his great contribution to the club when the "announcement" was made. I bet he doesn't feature in the pre-match video and that's a real shame.

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Hoop Blah » 01 Apr 2013 14:58

I don't think it's that unusual for a sacked manager not to get to say bye to his squad at the time of his sacking (Adkins didn't) but I'm sure he'll get to speak to those that he wants to in good time.

In the meantime I think he probably needs to keep a respectful distance to allow the new regime to kick on with things without his ghost distracting things a bit.

From what I've seen of the interview I'd say his comments show an acceptance of his part in the car crash of a season we've sat through. Interesting comments about the lack of spending and that he should've done more, I'll save the 'I told you so's' for another time though!

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by sandman » 01 Apr 2013 15:05

Hoop Blah I don't think it's that unusual for a sacked manager not to get to say bye to his squad at the time of his sacking (Adkins didn't) but I'm sure he'll get to speak to those that he wants to in good time.

In the meantime I think he probably needs to keep a respectful distance to allow the new regime to kick on with things without his ghost distracting things a bit.

From what I've seen of the interview I'd say his comments show an acceptance of his part in the car crash of a season we've sat through. Interesting comments about the lack of spending and that he should've done more, I'll save the 'I told you so's' for another time though!


You should do because that isn't what he said. He said "I could have been stronger in the Summer" and as even Winchester_Royal acknowledges that does not equal the money was there and I didn't spend it. It can just as easily mean that there was a budget that was set and he would have pushed the owner to break it if he had the chance again.

Back to the fence Hop Bleurgh.
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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Hoop Blah » 01 Apr 2013 15:07

Which is exactly what I've been saying, that as the manager it's part of his job to manager the owner and let them know what needs to be spent to get the job done.

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Royal Lady » 01 Apr 2013 15:18

Hoop Blah Which is exactly what I've been saying, that as the manager it's part of his job to manager the owner and let them know what needs to be spent to get the job done.

LOL - you think the Chelsea managers "manage" Abramovitch? I don't.

All I gleaned from that interview was that it wasn't unusual for AZ to summon the manager to "discuss" who was going to be playing the next game. I imagine if McD "managed" AZ and told him to butt out, he'd have been sacked a lot sooner! I think McD is a pretty honourable bloke and I think if he thought he was 100% to blame for the (mis)fortunes of our club this season, he'd have walked before he was pushed. Ergo, as he says himself he didn't think at the time that he was going to be sacked, he must have thought he'd done what he could within the constraints of any budget given to him. When you bear in mind we are constantly reminded on here that we exceeded expectations and got into the Premier at least a year earlier than was imagined, it still stinks that McD was sacked this close to the end of the season. AZ is having one last throw of the dice because of the £60m TV revenue at stake - nothing to do with keeping the club in a safe pair of hands, and all to do with money. Sadly.

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by melonhead » 01 Apr 2013 15:27

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melonhead couldnt give a toss about brian tbf. hes gone.


:lol:

Like you're fooling anyone........



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in the context of this conversation
of course i give a oxf*rd, hes a decent chap who gave me many happy memories and some great rollercoaster moments as a reading fan,
but lol at thinking my loyalty goes further than his last game for us. we have a new manager now. im glad he is here and i hope he does really well.

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by melonhead » 01 Apr 2013 15:30

Hoop Blah I don't think it's that unusual for a sacked manager not to get to say bye to his squad at the time of his sacking (Adkins didn't) but I'm sure he'll get to speak to those that he wants to in good time.

In the meantime I think he probably needs to keep a respectful distance to allow the new regime to kick on with things without his ghost distracting things a bit.

From what I've seen of the interview I'd say his comments show an acceptance of his part in the car crash of a season we've sat through. Interesting comments about the lack of spending and that he should've done more, I'll save the 'I told you so's' for another time though!



'i should have been stronger' says to me he wishes he had pushed harder for more money, rather than admitting there was money he didnt spend tbf


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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Hoop Blah » 01 Apr 2013 17:19

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Hoop Blah Which is exactly what I've been saying, that as the manager it's part of his job to manager the owner and let them know what needs to be spent to get the job done.

LOL - you think the Chelsea managers "manage" Abramovitch? I don't.

All I gleaned from that interview was that it wasn't unusual for AZ to summon the manager to "discuss" who was going to be playing the next game. I imagine if McD "managed" AZ and told him to butt out, he'd have been sacked a lot sooner! I think McD is a pretty honourable bloke and I think if he thought he was 100% to blame for the (mis)fortunes of our club this season, he'd have walked before he was pushed. Ergo, as he says himself he didn't think at the time that he was going to be sacked, he must have thought he'd done what he could within the constraints of any budget given to him. When you bear in mind we are constantly reminded on here that we exceeded expectations and got into the Premier at least a year earlier than was imagined, it still stinks that McD was sacked this close to the end of the season. AZ is having one last throw of the dice because of the £60m TV revenue at stake - nothing to do with keeping the club in a safe pair of hands, and all to do with money. Sadly.


Of course Chelsea managers don't successfully manage Abramovich and his power merchants at Chelsea, but you've picked one of the worst run football clubs as a benchmark. Compare its to how most managers will manage their Chairman/Owners and if they need more funds I'm sure they will make it clear and from what I have picked up from McDermotts interview he readily accepts he got that vital part of the job wrong this season.

Disagree it's all about the money (not that it's isn't a consideration I'm sure). I still think its a lot more about the next 3 years and the rebuilding job that's required and whether Zingaravich thought McDermott was the man to do that rebuild and spend the funds that it would seem Adkins will get. He was given all the time he needed to keep us up and, with the Wigan and Villa defeats leaving us in a dire position, failed to do so.

Remember, if we'd have won those two six pointers we'd have been 5 or 6 points clear of relegation and McDermott would undoubtedly still been in a job.

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Hoop Blah » 01 Apr 2013 17:22

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Hoop Blah I don't think it's that unusual for a sacked manager not to get to say bye to his squad at the time of his sacking (Adkins didn't) but I'm sure he'll get to speak to those that he wants to in good time.

In the meantime I think he probably needs to keep a respectful distance to allow the new regime to kick on with things without his ghost distracting things a bit.

From what I've seen of the interview I'd say his comments show an acceptance of his part in the car crash of a season we've sat through. Interesting comments about the lack of spending and that he should've done more, I'll save the 'I told you so's' for another time though!



'i should have been stronger' says to me he wishes he had pushed harder for more money, rather than admitting there was money he didnt spend tbf


Personally I think it's a total admission that he got it wrong in the summer. Combined with all the other comments from him and everyone else I'd say he's accepting that he got it totally wrong in the summer when (IMO) leading the club into the go with what we've got type approach to setting the budget for adding to the team.

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by SPARTA » 01 Apr 2013 17:24

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Hoop Blah I don't think it's that unusual for a sacked manager not to get to say bye to his squad at the time of his sacking (Adkins didn't) but I'm sure he'll get to speak to those that he wants to in good time.

In the meantime I think he probably needs to keep a respectful distance to allow the new regime to kick on with things without his ghost distracting things a bit.

From what I've seen of the interview I'd say his comments show an acceptance of his part in the car crash of a season we've sat through. Interesting comments about the lack of spending and that he should've done more, I'll save the 'I told you so's' for another time though!



'i should have been stronger' says to me he wishes he had pushed harder for more money, rather than admitting there was money he didnt spend tbf


It could also allude to his handling of certain players.

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Royal Lady » 01 Apr 2013 17:57

As I've just said on another thread, if it's not about trying to stay up this season, why not stick with McD until the end of the season. It's about the money and it's about a long-shot in staying up this season.

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by ZacNaloen » 01 Apr 2013 18:01

Royal Lady As I've just said on another thread, if it's not about trying to stay up this season, why not stick with McD until the end of the season. It's about the money and it's about a long-shot in staying up this season.



I can't believe no one has said this before!

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Hoop Blah » 01 Apr 2013 18:02

Royal Lady As I've just said on another thread, if it's not about trying to stay up this season, why not stick with McD until the end of the season. It's about the money and it's about a long-shot in staying up this season.


Because its partly about giving us some chance of staying up but moreover, if you want to give the next guy the best chance of rebuilding, then giving him half a dozen competitive games and a couple of months of bedding in time is the best preparation for a busy summer (especially with a number of contract situations coming to a head).

Is that too difficult to understand?

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Re: Brian - Goals on Sunday

by Ian Royal » 01 Apr 2013 18:05

Royal Lady As I've just said on another thread, if it's not about trying to stay up this season, why not stick with McD until the end of the season. It's about the money and it's about a long-shot in staying up this season.

Why don't you read the dozens of answers to that question that have already been posted over the last month, rather than trotting out the same tired crap all the time and ignoring every effort people make to enlighten you.

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