Hard to see any progress for the forseeable future

[readingbedding]

he saw the writing on the wall when he saw kebe in training

Doubt it.
Portsmouth offered him lots more cash.

i wasnt being 100% serious

Ok, that's another person blocked.

[readingbedding]

Amateur view:
I think we need to get used to mid table championship football at the very best until there is a sea change at this club

Professional view:
The result was a setback for Burnley manager Owen Coyle. “Without doubt Reading will be up there, they are a very good side,” he said. “Stephen Hunt is top class, and they have pace in the right areas. They are looking to get back into the Premier League, so these teams are our yardstick.

Professional view wins by KO!

Ding, ding!

[Woodcote Royal]

Someone earlier in this thread posted that we hadn't beaten anyone in the top half of the table; we have now beaten teams who are currently 2nd, 5th, 7th, 8th, and 9th.

Says so much about our current standing, totally agree.

The big question from here is this - can we amass enough points so that come January players like Doyle and SHunt will be less inclined to move to mid table Prem teams as promotion with us looks a good bet?

Back on planet, this, of course, is the equation that should be upper most in all our minds. For any team threatening to gain promotion to the Prem, losing your best players in a transfer window is ALWAYS a major concern and I won't be averse to seeing some financial carrots dangled if it helps us to keep Hunt and Doyle here to the end of the season.

And then we have this thread

More proof, if any was needed, that Mr Sadb@rstard ALWAYS lacks the mental capacity/ maturity to admit he's wrong; prefering to make an utter idiot of both himself and his wife.

[Sarah Star]

Yes, but I seem to remember the 'professional' view being that they couldn't see Reading going down from the Premiership at the end of last season...and look what happened.

[readingbedding]

Yes, but I seem to remember the 'professional' view being that they couldn't see Reading going down from the Premiership at the end of last season...and look what happened.

Your fault for believing them.

See for yourself, make your own mind up.

[Woodcote Royal]

I blame Coppell for a relegation that shouldn't have happened but I wouldn't still be clinging to the ridiculous notion that no progress is currently being made just because things didn't look very rosy when the final whistle blew at Ipswich..................

[Thaumagurist*]

Kitson was hardly banging the goals in,

WTF?!? He scored 10 goals last season, was the club's top scorer and that's more than Doyle, Lita and Long! Having said that, he hasn't scored for Stoke yet!

[Sarah Star]

Sorry, I'm not sure I follow your argument here.

"Professional view wins by a KO"
"Your fault for believing them"

I think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself.

I intend to wait and see and make my mind up...though I like a little optimism now and then.

[Maguire]

For any team threatening to gain promotion to the Prem, losing your best players in a transfer window is ALWAYS a major concern and I won't be averse to seeing some financial carrots dangled if it helps us to keep Hunt and Doyle here to the end of the season.

I agree. It's definitely going to hinge on what happens in January. Retain or strengthen and we'll have a good chance of going up. If not, well...

More proof, if any was needed, that Mr Sadb@rstard ALWAYS lacks the mental capacity/ maturity to admit he's wrong; prefering to make an utter idiot of both himself and his wife.

And then this...? Grow up FFS.

[readingbedding]

Sorry, I'm not sure I follow your argument here.

"Professional view wins by a KO"
"Your fault for believing them"

I think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself.

I intend to wait and see and make my mind up...though I like a little optimism now and then.

That's nice.

You want to wait as you don't know, I think we're going up, so I agree with the Burnley manager, some people think we're going to finish mid-table.

Up to them, we don't control anything on the pitch.

[Schards#2]

Someone earlier in this thread posted that we hadn't beaten anyone in the top half of the table; we have now beaten teams who are currently 2nd, 5th, 7th, 8th, and 9th.

Says so much about our current standing, totally agree.

The big question from here is this - can we amass enough points so that come January players like Doyle and SHunt will be less inclined to move to mid table Prem teams as promotion with us looks a good bet?

Back on planet, this, of course, is the equation that should be upper most in all our minds. For any team threatening to gain promotion to the Prem, losing your best players in a transfer window is ALWAYS a major concern and I won't be averse to seeing some financial carrots dangled if it helps us to keep Hunt and Doyle here to the end of the season.

And then we have this thread

More proof, if any was needed, that Mr Sadb@rstard ALWAYS lacks the mental capacity/ maturity to admit he's wrong; prefering to make an utter idiot of both himself and his wife.

Do you have any idea who pathetic/immature that makes you appear?

A couple of points:

1. The last time there was a thread like this was to do with the extention where I was roundly mocked, particularly by the morbidly ignorant such as yourself, for suggesting that the extention was a bad idea as there was unlikely to be the demand to fill the existing capacity going forward. One year on and we're playing in front of 4,000+ empty seats every week. History proved me to be right. I believe in the fullness of time, history will prove me to be right on this too. Whether I am or not will not be known for some time so you'd have to be a complete moron, as ably demonstrated by your intervention, to be demanding some sort of retraction at this stage of events.

2. I would accept that the last few weeks have not be dull or uninspiring but I would imagine Watford's weren't early last season or Cardiff's the season before that. Both sides seasons fell apart with one making the playoffs by one point and being thrashed and the other not qualifying at all. It's a long season in the championship and lots of games fall after 1st January.

3. Whilst I have stated reservations about the impact of Madejski staying in charge and Coppell being manager even though he's likely to quit shortly, I haven't criticised their ability. Why don't you save spleen venting anger for the idiots who were openly criticising and insulting Coppell and threatening not to go to games because they disagreed with team selection? They are real morons, the real part time supporters, the real tantrum throwing brain doners. Why? Because you were one of them weren't you?

4. I'd get that ignore button looked at by an IT professional, it doesn't seem to be working.

[Negative_Jeff]

If the standard of opposition continues to be as mediocre as the team has encountered so far,then it is easy to see progress for the forseeable future.

[readingbedding]

If the standard of opposition continues to be as mediocre as the team has encountered so far,then it is easy to see progress for the forseeable future.

If we were a mediocre side, we would not be winning as many games.

[Schards#2]

I blame Coppell for a relegation that shouldn't have happened but I wouldn't still be clinging to the ridiculous notion that no progress is currently being made just because things didn't look very rosy when the final whistle blew at Ipswich..................

I didn't see this until after I made my last posts.

Could it be that you are actually not intelligent enough to realise that the rights and wrongs of my argument won't be know until at least the end of this season.

If you are actually that that stupid, that lacking in any sense whatsoever, then I apologise for my earlier comments as I thought they were being directed at a fully functioning adult.

[Thaumagurist*]

Schards, can you spell "extension" properly next time, please? Oh and you make a 20K attendance sound like a bad thing. 4K empty seats, so what? As the season progresses, you can expect more people coming back to see the mighty Royals make a charge on promotion and we'll probably see some sell-outs against the bigger clubs such as Birmingham and Wolves. I would prefer a 30K attendance and 4K empty seats as that would mean that people like me would have more of a chance of buying a ticket as late as possible.

[Schards#2]

Schards, can you spell "extension" properly next time, please? Oh and you make a 20K attendance sound like a bad thing. 4K empty seats, so what? As the season progresses, you can expect more people coming back to see the mighty Royals make a charge on promotion and we'll probably see some sell-outs against the bigger clubs such as Birmingham and Wolves. I would prefer a 30K attendance and 4K empty seats as that would mean that people like me would have more of a chance of buying a ticket as late as possible.

20K is great, ideal for a 24,000 stadium.

[Thaumagurist*]

Schards, can you spell "extension" properly next time, please? Oh and you make a 20K attendance sound like a bad thing. 4K empty seats, so what? As the season progresses, you can expect more people coming back to see the mighty Royals make a charge on promotion and we'll probably see some sell-outs against the bigger clubs such as Birmingham and Wolves. I would prefer a 30K attendance and 4K empty seats as that would mean that people like me would have more of a chance of buying a ticket as late as possible.

20K is great, ideal for a 24,000 stadium.

But wouldn't you like more than 24K when we play Birmingham and Wolves?

[Quagmire]

1. The last time there was a thread like this was to do with the extention where I was roundly mocked, particularly by the morbidly ignorant such as yourself, for suggesting that the extention was a bad idea as there was unlikely to be the demand to fill the existing capacity going forward. One year on and we're playing in front of 4,000+ empty seats every week. History proved me to be right. I believe in the fullness of time, history will prove me to be right on this too. Whether I am or not will not be known for some time so you'd have to be a complete moron, as ably demonstrated by your intervention, to be demanding some sort of retraction at this stage of events.

No one was advocating building the extension if we got relegated but rather if we had stayed up. But feel free to make it up as you go along if that's the only way you prove yourself "right".

4k additional supporters over and above around this period last time we were in this division - some people would call this progress

[CMRoyal]

I blame Coppell for a relegation that shouldn't have happened but I wouldn't still be clinging to the ridiculous notion that no progress is currently being made just because things didn't look very rosy when the final whistle blew at Ipswich..................

I didn't see this until after I made my last posts.

Could it be that you are actually not intelligent enough to realise that the rights and wrongs of my argument won't be know until at least the end of this season.

I agree, although the only drag on the original argument’s credence for me is the comment about the future looking dull and uninspiring. As one who pretty much shared your view pre-season, I am of the firm mind that even if you are proven right that JM isn’t prepared to move the club forward, and even if SC does struggle to get fired up for a return to the Prem, and even if we do fall off to the point that we are nothing more than an outside bet for a playoff place (which is currently looking highly unlikely) there will be nothing dull or uninspiring about watching all these post-06 names (Rosey, Bikey, Stretch, Jimmy, Jem, N Hunt, Pearce, Marek, James H, Mooney, Kelly) strive to give a good account of themselves.

[LUX]

Agreed, of course, about the January window, but I worry a bit about the lack of strength in depth. I like Henry and Long, but if we get any long-running/bad combination of injuries/suspensions over this season (eg up front) will we still be OK? I was happy having Lita in reserve, (in theory) itching to prove he's worth a place. There is no doubt he has the ability at this level.

Federici's gone. Would the new back-up do the job as well?