Icelandic striker on trial

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Ryn » 26 Nov 2009 13:10

That bloke from ManUre is Bulgarian isn't he? The miserable one from Spurs.

More Icelandics, please.

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by winchester_royal » 26 Nov 2009 13:18

Interesting that. I thought Vasilev had proved to be a flop.

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Silver Fox » 26 Nov 2009 13:37

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Silver Fox Sources close to the club tell me the plan is to agree terms and then he'll stay with us until he can actually sign in January


Perhaps the poor old Chairman's got a bit confused and thinks he's got the opportunity for a regular spot on the telly:

The cut price alternative to Waitrose; 'Madejski's gone to Iceland'.


That's brilliant, you should be on the stage, your comedic talents are truly wasted on here, Bravo

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by RoyalBlue » 26 Nov 2009 17:09

Don't know whether this still applies but this statement was made back in 2005 when the FL came up with the 'Emergency Loan' rules as a way around the transfer window.

"While no permanent transfers will be allowed outside the transfer window that closed on August 31 - and won't open again until January - the clubs can loan as many players as they like - as long as the players are employed in the Premier League or Football League."

So can we sign our Icelandic striker on loan before January or does he need to become a free agent?

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Ian Royal » 26 Nov 2009 18:34

RoyalBlue Don't know whether this still applies but this statement was made back in 2005 when the FL came up with the 'Emergency Loan' rules as a way around the transfer window.

"While no permanent transfers will be allowed outside the transfer window that closed on August 31 - and won't open again until January - the clubs can loan as many players as they like - as long as the players are employed in the Premier League or Football League."

So can we sign our Icelandic striker on loan before January or does he need to become a free agent?



No we can't. We can sign a deal with him and he can train with us but he can't play until January.


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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by RoyalBlue » 26 Nov 2009 20:05

What about if his current club could be persuaded to cancel his contract? Does that then make him a free agent who we can sign straight away?

If not, then our business management team really do seem absolutely determined to achieve League One football by gambling a) that our current wafer thin strike force can recover fitness and remain fully fit through to January and b) that they are good enough to score the goals we need to move up the table.

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by brendywendy » 26 Nov 2009 20:05

i thought his club had released him, was that just for this trial?

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Sun Tzu » 26 Nov 2009 20:35

RoyalBlue What about if his current club could be persuaded to cancel his contract? Does that then make him a free agent who we can sign straight away?



I think this has been covered many times already and unsurprisingly the answer is NO. Free agents are those who were without a club at the end of the last transfer window. it would make the rule pointless if clubs could just rip up contracts.

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Ian Royal » 26 Nov 2009 20:49

RoyalBlue What about if his current club could be persuaded to cancel his contract? Does that then make him a free agent who we can sign straight away?

If not, then our business management team really do seem absolutely determined to achieve League One football by gambling a) that our current wafer thin strike force can recover fitness and remain fully fit through to January and b) that they are good enough to score the goals we need to move up the table.


7 goals in the last 10 games and that's just 14 starts between them.

So averaging a goal every two games. Not bad for a team that's only started to find form three or four games ago. Injury is a concern, but I don't think Long is a long term injury is he? There is still the option of playing one upfront and two wide forwards which worked well against Blackpool now the team have a bit of confidence and form...

then there is Baggie and possibly Vasilev for emergencies, or maybe a recall of Mooney/Bignall.

Personally I think Siggurdsson could do a job upfront for a spell if really needed.

The options aren't great, but if we can't get one of the players we might be interested in, we've got just about enough that bringing in someone shit won't improve anything


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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Pseud O'Nym » 26 Nov 2009 20:56

Sun Tzu I think this has been covered many times already and unsurprisingly the answer is NO. Free agents are those who were without a club at the end of the last transfer window. it would make the rule pointless if clubs could just rip up contracts.


The should make it like marriages, null and void if you fail to score.

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Sun Tzu » 26 Nov 2009 21:42

I think RoyalBlue is right to express some concern that we're a bit light up front, although I think he over eggs it a little.

Much depends on the state of Lonng and Church. if they are both fit and available for Saturday then we're probably OK. I'd be surprised if we could sign a short term loan player at this time of year that would add much.

We also don;t really know what options we have in recalling loan players - hopefully someone who has got to grips with the rules might know ( I guess that means Stranded !!)

If we could have got a proven Championship striker in then it would have bolstered us nicely but an inexepreinced Premiership reserve would have been a gamble.

We shall see, and we need to remember that no one has a bigger interest in us having the right players than Mr Rodgers !

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Southbank Old Boy » 26 Nov 2009 21:47

Sun Tzu I think RoyalBlue is right to express some concern that we're a bit light up front, although I think he over eggs it a little.

Much depends on the state of Lonng and Church. if they are both fit and available for Saturday then we're probably OK. I'd be surprised if we could sign a short term loan player at this time of year that would add much.

We also don;t really know what options we have in recalling loan players - hopefully someone who has got to grips with the rules might know ( I guess that means Stranded !!)

If we could have got a proven Championship striker in then it would have bolstered us nicely but an inexepreinced Premiership reserve would have been a gamble.

We shall see, and we need to remember that no one has a bigger interest in us having the right players than Mr Rodgers !


Doesnt matter on the rules for loans so much now most of them have been away for at least a month. It depends more on the terms we agreed with the clubs taking them

Pretty sure the rule is no recall at all in the 1st month of any loan, and no recall on season long deals

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Sun Tzu » 26 Nov 2009 21:49

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Sun Tzu I think RoyalBlue is right to express some concern that we're a bit light up front, although I think he over eggs it a little.

Much depends on the state of Lonng and Church. if they are both fit and available for Saturday then we're probably OK. I'd be surprised if we could sign a short term loan player at this time of year that would add much.

We also don;t really know what options we have in recalling loan players - hopefully someone who has got to grips with the rules might know ( I guess that means Stranded !!)

If we could have got a proven Championship striker in then it would have bolstered us nicely but an inexepreinced Premiership reserve would have been a gamble.

We shall see, and we need to remember that no one has a bigger interest in us having the right players than Mr Rodgers !


Doesnt matter on the rules for loans so much now most of them have been away for at least a month. It depends more on the terms we agreed with the clubs taking them

Pretty sure the rule is no recall at all in the 1st month of any loan, and no recall on season long deals


Someone mentioned half season loans and recall options (was it Platypus ?)

I don;t think any of the players are on season long loans so maybe there isn;t an issue. I can;t see we would have insisted on NOT being able to recall anyone !


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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Southbank Old Boy » 26 Nov 2009 21:58

We might not have done, but the club we were loaning too might have done in order to pick up all the wages or to basically ensure the players plays

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Platypuss » 26 Nov 2009 21:59

Southbank Old Boy Pretty sure the rule is no recall at all in the 1st month of any loan, and no recall on season long deals


Or half-season loans - ie Bignall.

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by IcelandicStokie » 26 Nov 2009 22:01

Thorvaldsson told Icelandic media tonight that Brendan Rodgers has spoken to him personally and said he wants him at the club. I'd say the chances he'll join Reading are pretty good.

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Kitson12 » 26 Nov 2009 22:57

IcelandicStokie Thorvaldsson told Icelandic media tonight that Brendan Rodgers has spoken to him personally and said he wants him at the club. I'd say the chances he'll join Reading are pretty good.

Please, just sign him Rodgers!

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by 'lista » 26 Nov 2009 23:31

Unfortunately, it's not just up to Rodgers is it.

Wiggy-bollocks and Squeaky have the final say, surely?

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by RoyalBlue » 27 Nov 2009 11:09

Sun Tzu I think RoyalBlue is right to express some concern that we're a bit light up front, although I think he over eggs it a little.

Much depends on the state of Lonng and Church. if they are both fit and available for Saturday then we're probably OK. I'd be surprised if we could sign a short term loan player at this time of year that would add much.

We also don;t really know what options we have in recalling loan players - hopefully someone who has got to grips with the rules might know ( I guess that means Stranded !!)

If we could have got a proven Championship striker in then it would have bolstered us nicely but an inexepreinced Premiership reserve would have been a gamble.


It might have been a gamble but if you buy a ticket for the draw at least you've got some chance of winning!

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Re: Icelandic striker on trial

by Ian Royal » 27 Nov 2009 12:29

and allegedly we looked at a few tickets but were refused permission to pick them up.

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