How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

[Maneki Neko]

despite him showing mainly inconsistency, with poor decision making and a lack of technique during his time here?

yeah, he WAS good enough, he was just hiding it.



he wanted games, there was no way he was getting past any of the other players in that position at the time. the end.

[No Fixed Abode]

Yeah, right.

It's pretty much the same squad of players, bar a couple which BM shipped out and brought a couple in.

So why does Clarke have a get out of jail free card for when he took over from Adkins?

Clearly the only relevant bit is the form Clarke was sacked for, if you want to boil it down to one dimensional stats. Which no one but you does.

It's more relevant to compare this season as I've said and makes absolute sense. But if you want to compare say Ted Drake's Reading side with the current one on a measure of how McDermott is doing despite there being totally different playing staff. So be it.

[Maneki Neko]

so as long as I just say it makes absolute sense I can pick and choose any period of games for comparison that I want?

[Ian Royal]

so as long as I just say it makes absolute sense I can pick and choose any period of games for comparison that I want?

To be fair, "it makes sense because I say it makes sense" is 'C' grade GCSE level, so Kes is more advanced than we thought.

[No Fixed Abode]

so as long as I just say it makes absolute sense I can pick and choose any period of games for comparison that I want?

To be fair, "it makes sense because I say it makes sense" is 'C' grade GCSE level, so Kes is more advanced than we thought.

Ok. Let's compare today's team to the one that Terry Bullivant managed to suit your argument despite the fact it was in a completely different era, with a huge difference in staffing budgets, totally different players etc. This makes much more sense doesn't it? You can then say things have improved under BM

I'm pretty sure that's not even on the curriculum it's such a dumb comparison.

[Maneki Neko]

so as long as I just say it makes absolute sense I can pick and choose any period of games for comparison that I want?

To be fair, "it makes sense because I say it makes sense" is 'C' grade GCSE level, so Kes is more advanced than we thought.

Ok. Let's compare today's team to the one that Terry Bullivant managed to suit your argument despite the fact it was in a completely different era, with a huge difference in staffing budgets, totally different players etc. This makes much more sense doesn't it? You can then say things have improved under BM

I'm pretty sure that's not even on the curriculum it's such a dumb comparison.

so there is no comparison between things that happen at different times?

you simply need to understand the differences in staffing budgets, totally different players, different era etc when making the comparison.

why is it ok for you to compare clarkes team, with blackman and Sa in it, to brains team without either?
......because you understand the difference that makes to the two teams when making the comparison....

[No Fixed Abode]

You simply are just disagreeing for the sake of it.

It's a fairer comparison to compare BMs team now to that of SC's team at the start of the season because with the exception of a couple of outgoings and a couple incomings it's the same squad in the same season competing against the same teams .

[Maneki Neko]

no.

[Ian Royal]

so as long as I just say it makes absolute sense I can pick and choose any period of games for comparison that I want?

To be fair, "it makes sense because I say it makes sense" is 'C' grade GCSE level, so Kes is more advanced than we thought.

Ok. Let's compare today's team to the one that Terry Bullivant managed to suit your argument despite the fact it was in a completely different era, with a huge difference in staffing budgets, totally different players etc. This makes much more sense doesn't it? You can then say things have improved under BM

I'm pretty sure that's not even on the curriculum it's such a dumb comparison.

[Extended-Phenotype]

You simply are just disagreeing for the sake of it.

It's a fairer comparison to compare BMs team now to that of SC's team at the start of the season because with the exception of a couple of outgoings and a couple incomings it's the same squad in the same season competing against the same teams .

Cool. Then why not make it fairer and more current still and compare SC's last 12 with Brian's last 12? As you say, more in common with each other, more relevant and fairer as the same number of games.

[CountryRoyal]

No matter how hard you try the simple truth is, just like in football in general, it is impossible to compare like for like because there are too many variations and plethora of factors which change at any given time.

[Maneki Neko]

Comparing anything is impossible

[Maneki Neko]

Compare definition:

To Estimate measure or note the similarity OR dissimilarity between.

Therefore comparison is indeed possible between two different things.

Even in football

[CountryRoyal]

Are you trying to be clever or did you contradict yourself on purpose?

[Extended-Phenotype]

He wasn't contradicting himself, he was flatfacing your assertion that comparing anything was impossible, then reasoned why.

[No Fixed Abode]

You simply are just disagreeing for the sake of it.

It's a fairer comparison to compare BMs team now to that of SC's team at the start of the season because with the exception of a couple of outgoings and a couple incomings it's the same squad in the same season competing against the same teams .

Cool. Then why not make it fairer and more current still and compare SC's last 12 with Brian's last 12? As you say, more in common with each other, more relevant and fairer as the same number of games.

I've no problem with this - at least it makes sense. I for the life on me can't figure out why Brendy wants to compare BMs current reign as manager with Terry Bullivants reign. Taxi for Brendy.

[Ian Royal]

You simply are just disagreeing for the sake of it.

It's a fairer comparison to compare BMs team now to that of SC's team at the start of the season because with the exception of a couple of outgoings and a couple incomings it's the same squad in the same season competing against the same teams .

Cool. Then why not make it fairer and more current still and compare SC's last 12 with Brian's last 12? As you say, more in common with each other, more relevant and fairer as the same number of games.

I've no problem with this - at least it makes sense. .

Finally!

Ok, so the question is about improvement, so rather than do a flat 13 on 13, I'll do a 7/7 breakdown with the middle game in both figures. Plus I'll add Kuhl's reign on to Clarke's as a comparison for how the club were doing at the point Bri took over. ppg = points per game, gpg = goals per game, cpg = conceded per game.

Clarke last 13 - 1st half: 2.28 ppg, 71% Wins, 1.86 gpg, 0.57 cpg
Clarke last 13 - 2nd half: 0.86 ppg, 14% Wins, 1.29 gpg, 2.14 cpg
RDG 13 Pre B - 1st half: 1.71 ppg, 43% Wins, 1.57 gpg, 1.29 cpg
RDG 13 Pre B - 2nd half: 0.57 ppg, 14% Wins, 0.86 gpg, 1.71 cpg
BMcD last 13 - 1st half: 1.14 ppg, 29% Wins, 0.71 gpg, 0.86 cpg
BMcD last 13 - 2nd half: 1.43 ppg, 29% Wins, 1.29 gpg, 1.14 cpg

So Clarke was getting worse, McDermott improved on where we had been immediately before he came in, and his more recent games are an improvement from when he first came in. I think there's a very strong chance that by the time McDermott's had 19 games his record will be stronger than Clarke's 19 this season. By 21, almost certainly better than the 21 before he arrived.

We're improving.

FIN

[No Fixed Abode]

But you said PPG didn't matter -so you can't use it.

Fooking 'ell Ian!

[Ian Royal]

But you said PPG didn't matter -so you can't use it.

Fooking 'ell Ian!

I've never said that. I may have said it isn't the only thing that matters. But then I haven't included just ppg, or even said that stats are the only measure that matters.

I've argued with your one-eyed, overly simplistic stance of taking Clarke's overall performance as manager this season and comparing it to McDermott's shorter spell, when there are clearly two distinct periods of performance under Clarke this season.

[Longhorn1970]

But you said PPG didn't matter -so you can't use it.

Fooking 'ell Ian!

I've never said that. I may have said it isn't the only thing that matters. But then I haven't included just ppg, or even said that stats are the only measure that matters.

I've argued with your one-eyed, overly simplistic stance of taking Clarke's overall performance as manager this season and comparing it to McDermott's shorter spell, when there are clearly two distinct periods of performance under Clarke this season.

I'll reverse judgement until we're 2nd again ..