BFTG - Everton

[andrew1957]

I do feel for Brian as if he plays 4-5-1 he gets ripped to shreds by 50% of our supporters and if he plays 4-4-2 he gets ripped to shreds from 50% of our supporters.

We all have our own views and he has to make the call and I am sure even he would agree that sometimes he has got it the wrong way round for certain games. However, it is always easier to see in hindsight which if the systems "would" have been better in any given game.

The problem with the PL is that every game is difficult and when things are going wrong, it is very hard to get back from the brink.

[Ian Royal]

I do feel for Brian as if he plays 4-5-1 he gets ripped to shreds by 50% of our supporters and if he plays 4-4-2 he gets ripped to shreds from 50% of our supporters and the opposition.

fixed it for you.

[andrew1957]

I do feel for Brian as if he plays 4-5-1 he gets ripped to shreds by 50% of our supporters and if he plays 4-4-2 he gets ripped to shreds from 50% of our supporters and the opposition.

fixed it for you.

True but the Wigan game hardly went well playing 4-5-1. We were actually more ripped to shreds more by Wigan than yesterday.

[Ian Royal]

I do feel for Brian as if he plays 4-5-1 he gets ripped to shreds by 50% of our supporters and if he plays 4-4-2 he gets ripped to shreds from 50% of our supporters and the opposition.

fixed it for you.

True but the Wigan game hardly went well playing 4-5-1. We were actually more ripped to shreds more by Wigan than yesterday.

Apparently, although that sounds more down to "isolated" performance than system. And of course, poor player selection once more.

A better comparison might be Sunderland H, Newcastle A, West Ham H, Swansea H, Man City A. Where we conceeded a total of 3 goals, one in the last minute of a match and one a stupid penalty.

Don't get me wrong, we were still a bit shit and conceeding too many goals. But 10 in 8 is a damn sight better than the 18 in the preceeding 8 games.

[MR. CYNICAL]

Royalsteve,whoever you are, pay attention, as i said before, seen us play in all four divisions, (so that includes when we were mediocre or worst in divs three and four!) So please show some respect and don't call me plastic.

[Man Friday]

Lad

Lol

Sorry.

Well done it, bruv.

Is that better?

[Royal91]

4-5-1 is obviously the most effective formation.

The Wigan performance was a joke because he randomly changed the team.

[Alexander Litvinenko]

4-5-1 is obviously the most effective formation.

The Wigan performance was a joke because he randomly changed the team.

It might be the most effective - but if the only striker you have who can even remotely play up front alone is suspended then it's just not feasible.

[Royal91]

4-5-1 is obviously the most effective formation.

The Wigan performance was a joke because he randomly changed the team.

It might be the most effective - but if the only striker you have who can even remotely play up front alone is suspended then it's just not feasible.

You're right certainly for the next game 4-5-1 is not feasible.

We need to go 4-4-2 against Villa and play Blackman from the start. He can't be any worse than Hunt but his pace might be able push their defence back and leave Le Fondre a bit more room. Or alternatively play the channel football more effectively through two nippy guys up top.

People have been harsh on Blackman considering his only real performance was on the wing against those thugs from Stoke.

[Sanguine]

Of course a midfielder who can pick a pass somewhat changes the dynamics of the 451 system.

[Maguire]

We've scored 34 times this season. That's more than....

QPR
Villa
Wigan
Sunderland
Norwich
West Ham
Stoke

and we've conceded 54, that's more than....well, everyone except Wigan

What's that got to do with my post? He said he couldn't think of a side less creative than us.False.

[Arch]

I do feel for Brian as if he plays 4-5-1 he gets ripped to shreds by 50% of our supporters and if he plays 4-4-2 he gets ripped to shreds from 50% of our supporters.

Generally the same 50%

[Ian Royal]

We've scored 34 times this season. That's more than....

QPR
Villa
Wigan
Sunderland
Norwich
West Ham
Stoke

and we've conceded 54, that's more than....well, everyone except Wigan

What's that got to do with my post? He said he couldn't think of a side less creative than us.False.

Teams could create more and score less because their finishing is poor. IN fact we already know we score quite a high proportion of our shots iirc. As a mark of creativity shots on goal would be a better indicator than just goals.

[Mike Hunt]

I'm with paultheroyal. This season has been such an anti climax. After getting promoted last season playing shit football we just carried on as we were. The squad needed restructuring in the summer with players who could compete at this level but, as usual, we stuck with the players we had apart from signing a few championship players (apart from the pog).This continued in the January window when we added a couple of LEAGUE ONE players, an unfit portugese and a squad player from Fulham!
With the shit style of football thrown in, it was always going to be a struggle for survival. All we do is try and get the ball in the box from wide areas, we make no attempt to create any chances by passing through the midfield, can't think of any other prem team that is as uncreative as we are.
Just bored with it all now. when we do win it's ugly. Why can't we be entertained?

blimey, we have some right plastics on here, just get lost and go and support oxford. you arent a proper supporter and we can do without muptards like you. try travelling to 3rd or 4th (l1 or l2 now) games watching a pretty mediocore side but still turn up every week with few moans because we were a small, poorly funded side playing in a league, we are just graeful we still have a football club

now we have plastic muptards that expect us to win most game as thats been the norm for the past 3-4 seasons - well, unless you havent realised we are playing in the top league and yes we are punching about our weight. if we stay up that will be more of an achievement thans the 8th place last tim in the prem, considering the quality of players we have - good championship players

Sir Muptard,

Why do we have to be punching above our weight? What most people want is to kick on, learn from the mistakes of 07/08, and cement our place in the Premier League. Have we come a long way? Yes. Why are people like you fine with seeing up piss the chance away again?

[melonhead]

its not really being fine about it. its simply understanding the reality of the situation

[Royal With Cheese]

I went past Goodison Park earlier on.


Not funny but true.

[royalsteve]

Just got back to the bar ready for the liverpool game. Thought we had some good possession first half but couldn't create anything. They just took their chances. Happy for Hal, hope Kebe's ok. Out to have a good night in liverpool regardless!

agreed played really well first half and mad a decent everton side look ordinary. 2nd half everton showed why they are near the top and we are near the bottom. at least we got a goal. i thought 3-1 was a bit harsh on reading, even though it could have been undeservably worse

[Pepe the Horseman]

Lad

Lol

Sorry.

Well done it, bruv.

Is that better?

Try 'toots'.

[Extended-Phenotype]

I do feel for Brian as if he plays 4-5-1 at home with three defending midfielders against beatable opposition he gets ripped to shreds by 50% of our supporters and if he plays 4-4-2 away against a top side when in a supposedly successful transfer window we supposedly have cover for suspended players which make a 4-5-1 work he gets ripped to shreds from 50% of our supporters and the opposition.

fixed it for you.

Fixed for you.