Boro Match Thread

[sandman]

Yeah, what resources? A former Real Madrid player and an ex-England international can't say he's been given money for any good players.

Thought he'd made progress at the start of that interview when he said "just wasn't good enough" that was until he then started reeling off reasons why we were "unlucky".

One interesting thing he did say was that the results and performances were his "responsibility". With that can we now put to bed the blaming of the players?

[Oilroyal]

Yeah, what resources? A former Real Madrid player and an ex-England international can't say he's been given good players.

Thought he'd made progress at the start of that interview when he said "just wasn't good enough" that was until he then started reeling off reasons why we were "unlucky".

One interesting thing he did say was that the results and performances were his "responsibility". With that can we now put to bed the blaming of the players?

+1

[Woodcote Royal]

What resources????? 900K on Williams and the rest frees.

So how much do think we are paying players like Drenthe compared to teenagers such as Long and Glyfi? What other manager of this club could ever have contemplated signing a 26 year old who used play for Real Madrid? Some of you live in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

[sandman]

At the start of this season we had "this is the best squad we've ever had" now they "aren't good enough" and other managers supposedly had "far better players than Adkins has got".

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Yeah, what resources? A former Real Madrid player and an ex-England international can't say he's been given good players.

Thought he'd made progress at the start of that interview when he said "just wasn't good enough" that was until he then started reeling off reasons why we were "unlucky".

One interesting thing he did say was that the results and performances were his "responsibility". With that can we now put to bed the blaming of the players?

A former Real Madrid player that's mental, unfit, overweight & was in the football wilderness playing for some random Russian club? An England international that's been injured the entire time?

No way is Drenthe an Adkins signing. No way in hell. Bridge - hmmm we may as well not have bothered signing him. Utter waste of money but you can't legislate for someone being injured the entire time.

I think the players AND Adkins should shoulder the blame personally.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

What resources????? 900K on Williams and the rest frees.

So how much do think we are paying players like Drenthe compared to teenagers such as Long and Glyfi? What other manager of this club could ever have contemplated signing a 26 year old who used play for Real Madrid? Some of you live in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

I think you'll find that's Royston

[Big Ern]

Yeah, what resources? A former Real Madrid player and an ex-England international can't say he's been given good players.

Thought he'd made progress at the start of that interview when he said "just wasn't good enough" that was until he then started reeling off reasons why we were "unlucky".

One interesting thing he did say was that the results and performances were his "responsibility". With that can we now put to bed the blaming of the players?

An ex Real Madrid player in the last chance saloon with regards to his professional career. If not, why didnt a Prem team take him? Afterall he had the chance to impress while on loan at Everton.

And an ex England International....if memory serves correct, didn't BM sign an ex England International, coincedently, also a left back. Didn't seem to do him much good.

The team is littered with past it players like Gorkks and Jobi. Players that are still coming through such as Orbita and Hal and Morrison, plus players who cleaely have an eye on the transfer window in Jan. We need time and probaly up to 4 or 5 players before we can start talking about challenging.

[RoyalBlue]

Setting aside the bigger picture (investment, Anton, etc.), Adkins cannot be exempted of blame here. First of all, he has stated that he believes he has enough cover at left back and centre back, so the lack of like-for-like back up is his responsibility. Secondly, he should provide effect tactics, substitutions, and man management. Nor can he be excused on the grounds that these players cannot apply his style of play, because the first requirement is the basics of football: tackling, passing, centering, making chances. When a team fails at those, the manager has to take much of the blame.

no apparently the entire squad has never been able to pass the ball, tackle, score or find space. That was the squad Brian left us with.

You make take the P but that was exactly what that squad of players were demonstrating in the latter days of Brian. By then they weren't even demonstrating the main virtues that Brian instils in teams i.e. workrate, passion and commitment. Added to that, don't forget the two expensive (in Madejski terms) parting joke purchases in Akpan and Blackman.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Also LOL @ "ex Real Madrid" being thrown around. Drenthe has been off the boil for years now & no one wanted him except Anton as he thought he could get lots of Drenthe shirts printed.

Fcuk it lets sign fat Ronaldo as he used to play for Real Madrid.

[genome]

100 goals

21 clean sheets

Still possible

[RoyalBlue]

Yeah, what resources? A former Real Madrid player and an ex-England international can't say he's been given good players.

Thought he'd made progress at the start of that interview when he said "just wasn't good enough" that was until he then started reeling off reasons why we were "unlucky".

One interesting thing he did say was that the results and performances were his "responsibility". With that can we now put to bed the blaming of the players?

A former Real Madrid player that's mental, unfit, overweight & was in the football wilderness playing for some random Russian club? An England international that's been injured the entire time?

No way is Drenthe an Adkins signing. No way in hell. Bridge - hmmm we may as well not have bothered signing him. Utter waste of money but you can't legislate for someone being injured the entire time.

I think the players AND Adkins should shoulder the blame personally.

But the there are a couple of wealthy idiots who should shoulder more blame than anyone - take a bow John 'Sold a Pup' Madejski and shyster Zingarevich.

And who sold the job to Adkins? - no doubt Hammond was involved there somewhere.

[Woodcote Royal]

Yeah, what resources? A former Real Madrid player and an ex-England international can't say he's been given good players.

Thought he'd made progress at the start of that interview when he said "just wasn't good enough" that was until he then started reeling off reasons why we were "unlucky".

One interesting thing he did say was that the results and performances were his "responsibility". With that can we now put to bed the blaming of the players?

A former Real Madrid player that's mental, unfit, overweight & was in the football wilderness playing for some random Russian club? An England international that's been injured the entire time?

No way is Drenthe an Adkins signing. No way in hell. Bridge - hmmm we may as well not have bothered signing him. Utter waste of money but you can't legislate for someone being injured the entire time.

I think the players AND Adkins should shoulder the blame personally.

Is there a civil partnership in the offing between you and Adkins?

Are there no limits to the extent you are prepared to go to protect his rear? Now, it would seem, only certain players signed on his watch are "his signings" and the others don't count as part of his budget, FFS

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Why the need for the constant insults Woodcote? You're actually quite vile on here. Bit unnecessary.

But anyway - if it makes you happy you carry on thinking Adkins wanted Drenthe here. Deluded.

[Big Ern]

What resources????? 900K on Williams and the rest frees.

So how much do think we are paying players like Drenthe compared to teenagers such as Long and Glyfi? What other manager of this club could ever have contemplated signing a 26 year old who used play for Real Madrid? Some of you live in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

Well we must be neighbours then.

I am certain the club would not break their rigid pay structure to accommodate one player, irrespective of who he has played for in his career. If thats the case then ALfie started his career at Man Utd, I doubt very much we are breaking the pay structure for him. With regards to Bridge, it was well documented at the time that money was not the deciding factor, if ti was he would have ended up at QPR.

So 2 players, both a bit of a gamble due to age and past history, This would have been recognised by the players and their agents at the time of negotiations and will be reflected in terms of what they are paid. To put it bluntly, they may be some of the best paid players at the ckub, but within the constraints of the wage bill and nothing excessive.

[sandman]

Also LOL @ "ex Real Madrid" being thrown around. Drenthe has been off the boil for years now & no one wanted him except Anton as he thought he could get lots of Drenthe shirts printed.

Fcuk it lets sign fat Ronaldo as he used to play for Real Madrid.

Just because he's been "off the boil" doesn't mean he isn't a good signing for Reading at this level and his pedigree is as good as anyone we've had before. Besides you seem to like to point to Adkins cv as a reason to defend him so don't criticise others for bringing up the past of other individuals.

Incredible disrespect shown by you to Ronaldo. A great player who I am lucky enough to say I saw play live for Real Madrid.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Also LOL @ "ex Real Madrid" being thrown around. Drenthe has been off the boil for years now & no one wanted him except Anton as he thought he could get lots of Drenthe shirts printed.

Fcuk it lets sign fat Ronaldo as he used to play for Real Madrid.

Just because he's been "off the boil" doesn't mean he isn't a good signing for Reading at this level and his pedigree is as good as anyone we've had before. Besides you seem to like to point to Adkins cv as a reason to defend him so don't criticise others for bringing up the past of other individuals.

Incredible disrespect shown by you to Ronaldo. A great player who I personally am lucky enough to say I saw live.

Lucky you. Spectacularly missing the point though. He'd be sh1te if we signed him now though wouldn't he?

[Big Ern]

Why the need for the constant insults Woodcote?

Because he is Spacktard that knows nothing about football.

This is the person that constantly ripped into me last year as I predicted we would go down. Even after a purple patch in January when we bredifly moved out the bottom 3, he posted a rather premature "Told you we would not go down " saying how he was right all along and I was just taking joy in the clubs missfortunes.......

[Woodcote Royal]

Why the need for the constant insults Woodcote? You're actually quite vile on here. Bit unnecessary.

But anyway - if it makes you happy you carry on thinking Adkins wanted Drenthe here. Deluded.

I'm deluded and now I'm vile

Absolutely priceless If we were talking about our top goal scorer, who can't get on the pitch even when we're 3-0 down, this increasingly desperate support for Adkins might have a crum of credibility but Drenthe has been one of our better players and Adkins has shown little reluctance to play him when fit.

[P!ssed Off]

So how much do think we are paying players like Drenthe compared to teenagers such as Long and Glyfi? What other manager of this club could ever have contemplated signing a 26 year old who used play for Real Madrid? Some of you live in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

Well we must be neighbours then.

I am certain the club would not break their rigid pay structure to accommodate one player, irrespective of who he has played for in his career. If thats the case then ALfie started his career at Man Utd, I doubt very much we are breaking the pay structure for him.

Le Fondre had a 6 week trial at Man Utd. when he was 7 years old.
How is that at all similar to Real Madrid paying 14 million euros for a 20 year-old Drenthe?

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Why the need for the constant insults Woodcote? You're actually quite vile on here. Bit unnecessary.

But anyway - if it makes you happy you carry on thinking Adkins wanted Drenthe here. Deluded.

I'm deluded and now I'm vile

Absolutely priceless If we were talking about our top goal scorer who can't get on the pitch even when we're 3-0 down, this increasingly desperate support for Adkins might have a crum of credibility but Drenthe has been one of our better players and Adkins has shown little reluctance to play him when fit.

Just trying to support the club. Perhaps you should try it sometime. You never know you might like it.

And Drenthe is in no condition for a supposed professional footballer. It's an embarrassment that a pro of his 'stature' could let themselves go like that. And today he was out for 'personal reasons' whatever the hell that means so don't try to spin that on Adkins.