by elrey » 04 Jul 2016 20:04
by elrey » 04 Jul 2016 20:07
bobby1413elreyBinfield Royal If you are Welsh, please feel free to comment but bear in mind this post is not aimed at you.
If you are English, given the video that emerged yesterday of the welsh squad celebrating Englands defeat like they had just won the competition outright, does this affect the way in which you feel about Gunter / HRK / Wales football?
With the Welsh, it so often seems like more than simply banter - a real chip on the shoulder type of "we will always support anyone else against England"
Last question, now England are out, will you support Wales because of Gunter / HRK?
FWIW, I think I would have cheered on Wales before that video came out and now I wont. I also think Gunter and HRK may have damaged their standing with Reading fans but whether that is true and whether it will last remains to be seen.
B) someone stupid welsh cow I have on facebook who said that Wales are now officially the best team in the UK. Well.... Wales got beaten by England, and yes England were massively poor, but Wales haven't played a great team yet. Russia, absolutely useless, England playing poorly, Belgium seem massively disjointed, Northern Ireland don't even have any good players etc etc. Portugal don't seem to be good either, so Wales could get to the final.
They'd get humped by Italy, Spain and Germany.
Wales clearly are the best team in the UK. If you believe that England are better you're dillusional. They are weak, spineless, spoiled wasters who barely ever put in a proper shift on the team. They lack team spirit and togetherness which Wales have in abundance, which Ireland/Northern Ireland also have.
by elrey » 04 Jul 2016 20:23
muirinhoelreyBinfield Royal If you are Welsh, please feel free to comment but bear in mind this post is not aimed at you.
If you are English, given the video that emerged yesterday of the welsh squad celebrating Englands defeat like they had just won the competition outright, does this affect the way in which you feel about Gunter / HRK / Wales football?
With the Welsh, it so often seems like more than simply banter - a real chip on the shoulder type of "we will always support anyone else against England"
Last question, now England are out, will you support Wales because of Gunter / HRK?
FWIW, I think I would have cheered on Wales before that video came out and now I wont. I also think Gunter and HRK may have damaged their standing with Reading fans but whether that is true and whether it will last remains to be seen.
Actually what has annoyed me about this is A) Bale coming about and making comments like he's a 12 year old teenager and B) someone stupid welsh cow I have on facebook who said that Wales are now officially the best team in the UK. Well.... Wales got beaten by England, and yes England were massively poor, but Wales haven't played a great team yet. Russia, absolutely useless, England playing poorly, Belgium seem massively disjointed, Northern Ireland don't even have any good players etc etc. Portugal don't seem to be good either, so Wales could get to the final.
They'd get humped by Italy, Spain and Germany.
Wow, I think I know who has the chip on their shoulder.
They might get humped by Germany, they definitely would not get humped by Italy or Spain.
They played badly against England, but they are improving and learning throughout the tournament. If they played against England tomorrow, do you seriously think England would get the same result??
Wales are an excellent team. Not a collection of excellent individuals, but an excellent team. And football is a team game.
Get over it.
by leon » 05 Jul 2016 09:58
by elrey » 07 Jul 2016 07:52
bobby1413elreyBinfield Royal If you are Welsh, please feel free to comment but bear in mind this post is not aimed at you.
If you are English, given the video that emerged yesterday of the welsh squad celebrating Englands defeat like they had just won the competition outright, does this affect the way in which you feel about Gunter / HRK / Wales football?
With the Welsh, it so often seems like more than simply banter - a real chip on the shoulder type of "we will always support anyone else against England"
Last question, now England are out, will you support Wales because of Gunter / HRK?
FWIW, I think I would have cheered on Wales before that video came out and now I wont. I also think Gunter and HRK may have damaged their standing with Reading fans but whether that is true and whether it will last remains to be seen.
B) someone stupid welsh cow I have on facebook who said that Wales are now officially the best team in the UK. Well.... Wales got beaten by England, and yes England were massively poor, but Wales haven't played a great team yet. Russia, absolutely useless, England playing poorly, Belgium seem massively disjointed, Northern Ireland don't even have any good players etc etc. Portugal don't seem to be good either, so Wales could get to the final.
They'd get humped by Italy, Spain and Germany.
Wales clearly are the best team in the UK. If you believe that England are better you're dillusional. They are weak, spineless, spoiled wasters who barely ever put in a proper shift on the team. They lack team spirit and togetherness which Wales have in abundance, which Ireland/Northern Ireland also have.
by Maguire » 07 Jul 2016 12:38
If they played against England tomorrow, do you seriously think England would get the same result??
by leon » 08 Jul 2016 00:53
MaguireIf they played against England tomorrow, do you seriously think England would get the same result??
Nope, reckon England would score three tbh
by tmesis » 08 Jul 2016 17:40
elrey Beat Belgium in extra time, this is then Belgium of today, they weren't as good back then. Then played Cameroon, again, won in extra time. 4 out of 5 games and they were draws after 90 minutes. Inspired yet? Drew their 5th out of 6 with Germany and couldn't score in extra time and lost on penalties. Our second best ever World Cup, ONE WIN. AGAINST EGYPT. Great.....
by muirinho » 08 Jul 2016 20:13
tmesiselrey Beat Belgium in extra time, this is then Belgium of today, they weren't as good back then. Then played Cameroon, again, won in extra time. 4 out of 5 games and they were draws after 90 minutes. Inspired yet? Drew their 5th out of 6 with Germany and couldn't score in extra time and lost on penalties. Our second best ever World Cup, ONE WIN. AGAINST EGYPT. Great.....
Does winning in extra time no longer count as a win?
Belgium weren't a bad team back then, as it happens.
We also had some real momentum in the knockout stages, and there was a genuine feeling we could win the thing. Of course, anyone who doesn't remember it, and is just looking at stats, might draw a different conclusion. Anyone who can remember it and didn't think we were on a roll and could have won, is probably Scottish, Welsh or Irish.
by tmesis » 08 Jul 2016 20:52
muirinhotmesiselrey Beat Belgium in extra time, this is then Belgium of today, they weren't as good back then. Then played Cameroon, again, won in extra time. 4 out of 5 games and they were draws after 90 minutes. Inspired yet? Drew their 5th out of 6 with Germany and couldn't score in extra time and lost on penalties. Our second best ever World Cup, ONE WIN. AGAINST EGYPT. Great.....
Does winning in extra time no longer count as a win?
Belgium weren't a bad team back then, as it happens.
We also had some real momentum in the knockout stages, and there was a genuine feeling we could win the thing. Of course, anyone who doesn't remember it, and is just looking at stats, might draw a different conclusion. Anyone who can remember it and didn't think we were on a roll and could have won, is probably Scottish, Welsh or Irish.
I'm Irish, and I do remember, and yes, with a bit of luck you could have won that year - penalties are a complete lottery. Was that the year though that the manager admitted afterwards you hadn't practiced penalties at all? My memory may be failing me on that one though, I didn't live here at the time, so didn't have the huge coverage it would have got here
by elrey » 09 Jul 2016 17:37
tmesiselrey Beat Belgium in extra time, this is then Belgium of today, they weren't as good back then. Then played Cameroon, again, won in extra time. 4 out of 5 games and they were draws after 90 minutes. Inspired yet? Drew their 5th out of 6 with Germany and couldn't score in extra time and lost on penalties. Our second best ever World Cup, ONE WIN. AGAINST EGYPT. Great.....
Does winning in extra time no longer count as a win?
Belgium weren't a bad team back then, as it happens.
We also had some real momentum in the knockout stages, and there was a genuine feeling we could win the thing. Of course, anyone who doesn't remember it, and is just looking at stats, might draw a different conclusion. Anyone who can remember it and didn't think we were on a roll and could have won, is probably Scottish, Welsh or Irish.
by tmesis » 09 Jul 2016 18:27
elreytmesiselrey Beat Belgium in extra time, this is then Belgium of today, they weren't as good back then. Then played Cameroon, again, won in extra time. 4 out of 5 games and they were draws after 90 minutes. Inspired yet? Drew their 5th out of 6 with Germany and couldn't score in extra time and lost on penalties. Our second best ever World Cup, ONE WIN. AGAINST EGYPT. Great.....
Does winning in extra time no longer count as a win?
Belgium weren't a bad team back then, as it happens.
We also had some real momentum in the knockout stages, and there was a genuine feeling we could win the thing. Of course, anyone who doesn't remember it, and is just looking at stats, might draw a different conclusion. Anyone who can remember it and didn't think we were on a roll and could have won, is probably Scottish, Welsh or Irish.
Sometimes it's just about a feeling, and that feeling probably didn't kick in until after a few dodgy wins.
Look at Portugal, one win in 90 minutes, got through because some 3rd placed teams get through. The feeling and what is actually out there might be two different things. You get to the semi-finals, you do think you can win it, regardless of whether you actually can.
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