by Steve_Upper_West » 01 Oct 2017 06:36
by The Cap » 01 Oct 2017 06:53
by Hound » 01 Oct 2017 07:13
by Pandoras Box » 01 Oct 2017 07:44
by Chuckle Brother » 01 Oct 2017 07:50
bobby1413 My second rant of the day (for the first see the "in or out" thread).
I just don't understand Reading fans views and criticisms of Gunter. I don't think he had a great game against Norwich and made two really big errors in the second half which nearly led to a goal. But he wasn't our worst player and had some good moments.
Why are people so violently against him?
He has 81 International caps for Wales (who are a far better team than England) - and is one of the first names on the team sheet I'd imagine.
He's hugely admired and respected by pundits, Welsh football fans
He has 197 appearances for Reading
I personally feel he's one of our most solid and reliable players. He's more consistent than most who seem to look like Messi one game, and then a Sunday League player the next.
I can't help but feel it's once again the negative Reading fans who just seem to moan and groan about every little thing. If he was to go onto the transfer market he'd be snapped up and straight into any other Championship side.
If all people have to moan about is Gunter then they should look at other players within the team first.
by Linden Jones' Tash » 01 Oct 2017 08:53
by NewCorkSeth » 01 Oct 2017 09:02
by starbug » 01 Oct 2017 09:13
by Sutekh » 01 Oct 2017 09:42
Linden Jones' Tash In summary, he frustrates me, because he could and should be better for us, but isn't
by Hound » 01 Oct 2017 09:58
SutekhLinden Jones' Tash In summary, he frustrates me, because he could and should be better for us, but isn't
Think we're got about 11 of those at the moment, though perhaps Liam Moore could be excused.
by Snowflake Royal » 01 Oct 2017 10:09
by The Cap » 01 Oct 2017 12:28
Snowflake Royal wrote:
Hound, I'm one of his more symapthetic critics on here.
Normally he's bang average but reliable. This season he's been at fault for many of the stupid goals we've conceded. He made more than half a dozen stupid errors in yesterdays second half.
Millwall - weak and beaten on the back post.
Fulham - caught on his heels by Berg's shit pass, dived in and missed the ball and player instead of trying to stand him up or take both out.
Bristol - tried a stupid clearance and passed to their player in the middle of the D for an easy goal
Hull - another half hearted slide that gets nowhere near the ball
He is over cautious most of the time and frequently ignores forward options in favour of the safe pass to a CB. His first touch is usually to check back and open up that pass. He almost never takes anyone on. His crossing is almost always hopeful and aimless. He's spent the last couple of games actively gesturing for other players not to give him the ball.
He's just relentlessly negative and isn't in anyway suited to a positive passing style of play. He's soft. He rarely gets tight to his man. He constantly backs off. He's not typically good at blocking crosses.
For the stats this season he's successfully made tackles at less than half the rate of all our other defenders. He's our worst defender for interceptions. He barely ever fouls (sometimes its necessary). He's our worst defender for successful clearances. He has the worst pass completion of all our defenders. Blackett makes three times as many key passes a game. He's in the bottom 3 for accurate crosses a game (ahead of McCleary and Barrow only), he's 4th worst for inaccurate crosses, behind Beerens, Obita and Kelly. The much maligned Blackett puts in more accurate than inaccurate.
But he can run all game and never gets injured. Yay.
by Snowflake Royal » 01 Oct 2017 12:35
by bcubed » 01 Oct 2017 16:35
bobby1413 My second rant of the day (for the first see the "in or out" thread).
I just don't understand Reading fans views and criticisms of Gunter. I don't think he had a great game against Norwich and made two really big errors in the second half which nearly led to a goal. But he wasn't our worst player and had some good moments.
Why are people so violently against him?
He has 81 International caps for Wales (who are a far better team than England) - and is one of the first names on the team sheet I'd imagine.
He's hugely admired and respected by pundits, Welsh football fans
He has 197 appearances for Reading
I personally feel he's one of our most solid and reliable players. He's more consistent than most who seem to look like Messi one game, and then a Sunday League player the next.
I can't help but feel it's once again the negative Reading fans who just seem to moan and groan about every little thing. If he was to go onto the transfer market he'd be snapped up and straight into any other Championship side.
If all people have to moan about is Gunter then they should look at other players within the team first.
by Crotts » 01 Oct 2017 17:32
by Crotts » 01 Oct 2017 17:39
by West Stand Man » 01 Oct 2017 18:03
bobby1413 My second rant of the day (for the first see the "in or out" thread).
I just don't understand Reading fans views and criticisms of Gunter. I don't think he had a great game against Norwich and made two really big errors in the second half which nearly led to a goal. But he wasn't our worst player and had some good moments.
Why are people so violently against him?
He has 81 International caps for Wales (who are a far better team than England) - and is one of the first names on the team sheet I'd imagine.
He's hugely admired and respected by pundits, Welsh football fans
He has 197 appearances for Reading
I personally feel he's one of our most solid and reliable players. He's more consistent than most who seem to look like Messi one game, and then a Sunday League player the next.
I can't help but feel it's once again the negative Reading fans who just seem to moan and groan about every little thing. If he was to go onto the transfer market he'd be snapped up and straight into any other Championship side.
If all people have to moan about is Gunter then they should look at other players within the team first.
by Henley Royal 1 » 01 Oct 2017 18:38
by Snowflake Royal » 01 Oct 2017 18:52
Not true, taking me as an example, I loved harper and had no problem with McIntyre.West Stand Manbobby1413 My second rant of the day (for the first see the "in or out" thread).
I just don't understand Reading fans views and criticisms of Gunter. I don't think he had a great game against Norwich and made two really big errors in the second half which nearly led to a goal. But he wasn't our worst player and had some good moments.
Why are people so violently against him?
He has 81 International caps for Wales (who are a far better team than England) - and is one of the first names on the team sheet I'd imagine.
He's hugely admired and respected by pundits, Welsh football fans
He has 197 appearances for Reading
I personally feel he's one of our most solid and reliable players. He's more consistent than most who seem to look like Messi one game, and then a Sunday League player the next.
I can't help but feel it's once again the negative Reading fans who just seem to moan and groan about every little thing. If he was to go onto the transfer market he'd be snapped up and straight into any other Championship side.
If all people have to moan about is Gunter then they should look at other players within the team first.
Totally agreed. He takes flak for things that he had no part in; gets blamed for all sorts of faults; yet everyone who really knows the game rates him highly.
Sadly there is always a player in the squad who gets that. It used to be James Harper, Jim McIntyre, and others going back in time. There is no real logic to the selection of the player who is targeted by the boo boys but once they have got their man they don't often let go.
The only one I can remember turning it round was Dean Horrix. He was given a torrid time when he failed to score for a sustained period and his confidence was being shot to pieces. He even missed a penalty, as I recall, the easiest way to break his duck. Then he broke his duck and the story changed, leading to him becoming one of the most popular players we have ever had.
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