RyucooOld Man AndrewsRyucoo Where did people expect us to be?
Not in the relegation zone...........
9 wins in 38 games. Please argue thats good enough.
I'd argue that' just numbers. Sure, it's a numbers game I guess but they don't tell the whole story. I'd say it would be fair to wipe last season off the slate and work from the assumption that this was his first shift in charge of his own team with a fresh start. In which case for me, 11 games (not all of which have been bad) is a pretty short window to be firing someone. Again.
And the numbers don't tell the future, which also has to be considered. They don't adjust to compensate for the fact our only choices of replacement are Steve Bruce, Mark Hughes or some other yawning tumbleweed.
So for me, the numbers aren't really enough data. They might be for you, and lucky you, they seem to be for our daft club too - and how's it working out for us? Good?
You're leaning on an open door there with many people on here, for sure. Not least me as like most I thoroughly like the chap.
But whether you like it or not "just numbers" is what the football league is all about. Games are undeservedly won and lost because of the "just numbers" of goals at full time. Teams go up and down on "just numbers". And sadly managers are judged on "just numbers". If games and even the league was based on judges deciding who played better maybe also owners would decide on managers' fates based on how nice they are, their mitigating circumstances etc. I don't believe in "the table doesn't like" argument, but still at the end of the day whether it lies or not, it's what matters, and Gomes knew that from day one. He knew he'd be judged on "just numbers", as does every manager and as should every player and every fan. Win ugly, win boring, but win. He knew that, he failed.
I don't think it's fair to completely discard last season either. If it was 5-6 games at the end of the season then yeah ok. But HALF the season plus a bunch of top class loanees to bolster the squad. Some of those loanees returned so not new as Ian argues, with more players bought and still no improvement in the numbers? You can dissect and explain away games in all sorts of ways but at the end of the day it's about numbers and he just didn't manage to get them. I feel sorry for him, but that's the way it is.