CONFIMRED - Felipe Araruna

[morganb]

Details here:

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2020/01/29/ ... ed/450173/

Story taken from Courtney's tweet:

Told #readingfc are set to move for defensive midfielder Felipe Araruna, who they have been linked with previously. The 23-year-old is currently on loan at Fortaleza from São Paulo. Royals hoping to tie up a deal in the coming days but his loan terms could be a stumbling block.

[Norfolk Royal]

He's pretty good at, errrr, something or other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9iyote5mbQ

[Stranded]

He's pretty good at, errrr, something or other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9iyote5mbQ

Wonderful heavy rock soundtrack there. Particularly liked the highlight where he jumped and got hit on the back of the head with the ball.

[retro royal]

Not getting this, we need width and strikers, think Pele and Rinomhota we've got defensive midfield covered unless one is off

[WestYorksRoyal]

I get Pele is on loan, so we need a DM long term. This guy is 5 years or so younger, so may be a longer term option and have future resale value.

Even allowing for this, spending the transfer kitty on this guy over Pele is absolutely ridiculous.

- Pele turns 29 in September. It's not like we're looking at Charlie Adam. We could easily get 4 - 5 good years out of him.

- Adapting to the UK and the Championship takes time. Pele has been through this, with a dodgy loan at Forest and a slow start for us. We should now be looking to reap the benefits; not bring in a Brazilian who will have to go through this again, with no guarantee he'll come good.

- We need to build a squad nucleus which can steadily progress. This means Swift, Ejaria, Rino and, at the moment, Pele.

Why would anyone with the slightest clue about running a football club take a punt on a young Brazilian over bringing Pele back? Surely Pele won't be out of our price range? His contract is running down and he's barely played for Monaco.

I like our owners. They have supported Club 1871, are willing to invest in playing staff and infrastructure, support away travel etc. They clearly have a long term desire to succeed. But they have shown over their tenure that they can trust the wrong people. I don't like the new DoF rumour, and suspect this transfer is a result of his involvement. Wrong decision; let's hope he doesn't make a load more to set us back just as we're starting to build something.

[WoodleyRoyal]

I get Pele is on loan, so we need a DM long term. This guy is 5 years or so younger, so may be a longer term option and have future resale value.

Even allowing for this, spending the transfer kitty on this guy over Pele is absolutely ridiculous.

- Pele turns 29 in September. It's not like we're looking at Charlie Adam. We could easily get 4 - 5 good years out of him.

- Adapting to the UK and the Championship takes time. Pele has been through this, with a dodgy loan at Forest and a slow start for us. We should now be looking to reap the benefits; not bring in a Brazilian who will have to go through this again, with no guarantee he'll come good.

- We need to build a squad nucleus which can steadily progress. This means Swift, Ejaria, Rino and, at the moment, Pele.

Why would anyone with the slightest clue about running a football club take a punt on a young Brazilian over bringing Pele back? Surely Pele won't be out of our price range? His contract is running down and he's barely played for Monaco.

I like our owners. They have supported Club 1871, are willing to invest in playing staff and infrastructure, support away travel etc. They clearly have a long term desire to succeed. But they have shown over their tenure that they can trust the wrong people. I don't like the new DoF rumour, and suspect this transfer is a result of his involvement. Wrong decision; let's hope he doesn't make a load more to set us back just as we're starting to build something.

far too many 'if's' in this post.
1.First up its just a rumour nothing confirmed it could just be made up bollox.
2. We might not play him as a defensive cm maybe he a replacement for Adam.
3.You have no idea how much Monoco might be wanting for pele
4.Or even if pele would want to sign here full time
5. 'spending THE transfer kitty' you have no idea how much he will cost and whether that will be all of the kitty or not
6. regards to the DOF no evidence points to his involvement in this, other than the fact this guy is Brazillian.

calm down to a panic

[WestYorksRoyal]

I get Pele is on loan, so we need a DM long term. This guy is 5 years or so younger, so may be a longer term option and have future resale value.

Even allowing for this, spending the transfer kitty on this guy over Pele is absolutely ridiculous.

- Pele turns 29 in September. It's not like we're looking at Charlie Adam. We could easily get 4 - 5 good years out of him.

- Adapting to the UK and the Championship takes time. Pele has been through this, with a dodgy loan at Forest and a slow start for us. We should now be looking to reap the benefits; not bring in a Brazilian who will have to go through this again, with no guarantee he'll come good.

- We need to build a squad nucleus which can steadily progress. This means Swift, Ejaria, Rino and, at the moment, Pele.

Why would anyone with the slightest clue about running a football club take a punt on a young Brazilian over bringing Pele back? Surely Pele won't be out of our price range? His contract is running down and he's barely played for Monaco.

I like our owners. They have supported Club 1871, are willing to invest in playing staff and infrastructure, support away travel etc. They clearly have a long term desire to succeed. But they have shown over their tenure that they can trust the wrong people. I don't like the new DoF rumour, and suspect this transfer is a result of his involvement. Wrong decision; let's hope he doesn't make a load more to set us back just as we're starting to build something.

far too many 'if's' in this post.
1.First up its just a rumour nothing confirmed it could just be made up bollox.
2. We might not play him as a defensive cm maybe he a replacement for Adam.
3.You have no idea how much Monoco might be wanting for pele
4.Or even if pele would want to sign here full time
5. 'spending THE transfer kitty' you have no idea how much he will cost and whether that will be all of the kitty or not
6. regards to the DOF no evidence points to his involvement in this, other than the fact this guy is Brazillian.

calm down to a panic

Mostly legitimate criticism, although I think Pele is on record saying he'd like to stay.

Apparently he can also play RB, so maybe more cover once Gunter leaves (assuming he does). And perhaps bringing him in now gives him time to settle while Gunter and Adam are still on the books; he wouldn't need to perform straight away.

With this and the Laurent rumour, I'd overall guess we're not aiming to bring Pele back. Or don't consider it feasible. Shame either way.

[Notts Royal]

I get Pele is on loan, so we need a DM long term. This guy is 5 years or so younger, so may be a longer term option and have future resale value.

Even allowing for this, spending the transfer kitty on this guy over Pele is absolutely ridiculous.

- Pele turns 29 in September. It's not like we're looking at Charlie Adam. We could easily get 4 - 5 good years out of him.

- Adapting to the UK and the Championship takes time. Pele has been through this, with a dodgy loan at Forest and a slow start for us. We should now be looking to reap the benefits; not bring in a Brazilian who will have to go through this again, with no guarantee he'll come good.

- We need to build a squad nucleus which can steadily progress. This means Swift, Ejaria, Rino and, at the moment, Pele.

Why would anyone with the slightest clue about running a football club take a punt on a young Brazilian over bringing Pele back? Surely Pele won't be out of our price range? His contract is running down and he's barely played for Monaco.

I like our owners. They have supported Club 1871, are willing to invest in playing staff and infrastructure, support away travel etc. They clearly have a long term desire to succeed. But they have shown over their tenure that they can trust the wrong people. I don't like the new DoF rumour, and suspect this transfer is a result of his involvement. Wrong decision; let's hope he doesn't make a load more to set us back just as we're starting to build something.

far too many 'if's' in this post.
1.First up its just a rumour nothing confirmed it could just be made up bollox.
2. We might not play him as a defensive cm maybe he a replacement for Adam.
3.You have no idea how much Monoco might be wanting for pele
4.Or even if pele would want to sign here full time
5. 'spending THE transfer kitty' you have no idea how much he will cost and whether that will be all of the kitty or not
6. regards to the DOF no evidence points to his involvement in this, other than the fact this guy is Brazillian.

calm down to a panic

Mostly legitimate criticism, although I think Pele is on record saying he'd like to stay.

Apparently he can also play RB, so maybe more cover once Gunter leaves (assuming he does). And perhaps bringing him in now gives him time to settle while Gunter and Adam are still on the books; he wouldn't need to perform straight away.

With this and the Laurent rumour, I'd overall guess we're not aiming to bring Pele back. Or don't consider it feasible. Shame either way.

Or we’re planning ahead in case we lose Swift or Ejaria in the summer? Agree though - and smacks of an owner/Kia signing instead of Bowen, which is once again worrying.
Our midfield is the best it’s been for years - let’s not rock the boat

[Stranded]

Our midfield is the best it’s been for years - let’s not rock the boat

Terrible reason not to sign a player. It may be the best it has been for years but we are still only 15th in the league, so we have a lot of room for improvement across the pitch - so if a player is available who can improve us, we should go for it. Not clear Araruna is that player but we'll only know that if and when he arrives and plays.

[Basildon]

Courtney Friday reckons this one will be done today

[NewCorkSeth]

He hasn't been wrong recently.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Sounds like he will be cheap, so maybe it's a low risk signing. If we've uncovered a gem, great. If not, no great pain involved.

[Hound]

Sounds like he will be cheap, so maybe it's a low risk signing. If we've uncovered a gem, great. If not, no great pain involved.

yeah this pretty much. I'd be lying if I said I was getting excited by a 23 year old 5ft 9inch holding midfielder with 30 odd senior games behind him, but there must be something about him for him to be recommended (hopefully not just an agent fee to Kia)

[Sutekh]

Sounds like he will be cheap, so maybe it's a low risk signing. If we've uncovered a gem, great. If not, no great pain involved.

yeah this pretty much. I'd be lying if I said I was getting excited by a 23 year old 5ft 9inch holding midfielder with 30 odd senior games behind him, but there must be something about him for him to be recommended (hopefully not just an agent fee to Kia)

Well it’s all very nice and I presume he brings more to the table than we already have in the squad but can’t see anything to indicate that on available information

Wiki says he can also play at right back and that his full name is Felipe Araruna Hoffman

Chronicle says he is due to arrive this PM and if he does sign I would imagine his first opportunity to play might be the Hull game as I think it’s too late to qualify for the FA Cup replay next week and presumably the league trip to Cardiff is just far too soon

Let’s hope gets on with Rafael so as to make him feel more at home

Finally, hope it’s a loan for the rest of the season to see how he gets on

[From Despair To Where?]

far too many 'if's' in this post.
1.First up its just a rumour nothing confirmed it could just be made up bollox.
2. We might not play him as a defensive cm maybe he a replacement for Adam.
3.You have no idea how much Monoco might be wanting for pele
4.Or even if pele would want to sign here full time
5. 'spending THE transfer kitty' you have no idea how much he will cost and whether that will be all of the kitty or not
6. regards to the DOF no evidence points to his involvement in this, other than the fact this guy is Brazillian.

calm down to a panic

Mostly legitimate criticism, although I think Pele is on record saying he'd like to stay.

Apparently he can also play RB, so maybe more cover once Gunter leaves (assuming he does). And perhaps bringing him in now gives him time to settle while Gunter and Adam are still on the books; he wouldn't need to perform straight away.

With this and the Laurent rumour, I'd overall guess we're not aiming to bring Pele back. Or don't consider it feasible. Shame either way.

Or we’re planning ahead in case we lose Swift or Ejaria in the summer? Agree though - and smacks of an owner/Kia signing instead of Bowen, which is once again worrying.
Our midfield is the best it’s been for years - let’s not rock the boat

I don't know about worrying. Its that old argument as to how the scouting works. Will the manager have specific players in mind. I doubt it. More likely he will have a specific type of player in mind and the scouting network will look to find a player that fits the profile.

And considering Joorabchian was allegedly involved in the 5 signings that kept us up last year and our Brazilian/Portugese signings this season have done alright, I think there a lot of unfounded doom mongering about his involvement so far, the level of which, no one actually knows.

[Basildon]

40% sell on clause if Sport Witness are to be believed.

[SpaghettiHoop]

Won't he need a work permit?

[Hendo]

Won't he need a work permit?

Was he the guy that we were interested in a week or so ago, if so, I seem to remember it being confirmed that he had dual-citizenship, Italian maybe?

[From Despair To Where?]

Won't he need a work permit?

He's got a European passport.

[Stranded]

40% sell on clause if Sport Witness are to be believed.

Yep but no fee. So he is great and we flog him for a handsome sum great - if not we've just paid 2.5 years of probably fairly moderate wages in Championship terms.