Ngel Howe on radio

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Re: Ngel Howe on radio

by One87One » 28 Apr 2020 14:19

This is what happens when you pay silly wages to players who wouldn't have otherwise come near us. The sooner we have a shake-up and ship out the players who are here for the wrong reasons the better. Get back to how we used to run this football club!

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by paddy20 » 28 Apr 2020 22:09

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Hi Stranded - please explain about the losses. Don't the accounts say we lost about £40m? Add to this the losses for the last two seasons as well how can we be below the 39m limit for 3 seasons? Hope you are right about the FFP. Agree though it doesn't seem to matter as much now


Find the write up Star did on the accounts which explains it all pretty clearly,
First thing is that you need to understand which company FFP applies to. It does not apply to Reading FC (IIRC).


FFP loss is 11.75m, if I have found the correct figures in my super quick search.


Thanks Stranded could you let me have link Ta

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by JR » 28 Apr 2020 23:16

Hound is there a transcript of the interview anywhere?


Can listen to it on BBC Sounds if that helps.

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by Hound » 29 Apr 2020 06:26

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Hound is there a transcript of the interview anywhere?


Can listen to it on BBC Sounds if that helps.


Thanks, will find it

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by Hound » 29 Apr 2020 08:55

Actually a decent interview. Howe doesn’t sound too happy with quite a few things - esp the players not agreeing a deferral to wages


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by 2 world wars, 1 world cup » 29 Apr 2020 09:01

I hope this doesn't mean we accept a £20million bid for Aluko, I hope we hold firm in that situation.

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by WoodleyRoyal » 29 Apr 2020 10:40

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08bq3ty Nigels interview for those who haven't heard it yet.

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by SCIAG » 29 Apr 2020 13:29

The bit about selling Teddy so he didn’t feel conflicted is a kick in the teeth. Imagine if Middlesbrough had release Ben Gibson for the same reason, or if Maradona hadn’t called up Aguero when he was Argentina manager.

I’m not one of the Gunter haters but it’s hard to see where we’ll find a full back as good as Howe for as little money.

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by Gunny Fishcake » 29 Apr 2020 13:44

Two points for me , we're lucky to have the owners we have at the moment , and two, the players not deferring their wages is a disgrace. Note the word defer, as if the £1000's they get every week for for doing absolutely nothing at this moment in time is not enough to make you sick in the stomach. Greed and selfish doesn't even come close.


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by tee peg » 29 Apr 2020 14:05

Gunny Fishcake Two points for me , we're lucky to have the owners we have at the moment , and two, the players not deferring their wages is a disgrace. Note the word defer, as if the £1000's they get every week for for doing absolutely nothing at this moment in time is not enough to make you sick in the stomach. Greed and selfish doesn't even come close.



Bang on.Bloody greedy little shits. NHS staff risking their lives for peanuts and our players rake in thousands,
and in some cases tens of thousands a week.They need to take a reality check.

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by karbota » 29 Apr 2020 14:21

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Gunny Fishcake Two points for me , we're lucky to have the owners we have at the moment , and two, the players not deferring their wages is a disgrace. Note the word defer, as if the £1000's they get every week for for doing absolutely nothing at this moment in time is not enough to make you sick in the stomach. Greed and selfish doesn't even come close.



Bang on.Bloody greedy little shits. NHS staff risking their lives for peanuts and our players rake in thousands,
and in some cases tens of thousands a week.They need to take a reality check.


Dam well said sir, just not Cricket, but not surprised when you employ so many foreign mercenaries.

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by Stranded » 29 Apr 2020 14:26

Gunny Fishcake Two points for me , we're lucky to have the owners we have at the moment , and two, the players not deferring their wages is a disgrace. Note the word defer, as if the £1000's they get every week for for doing absolutely nothing at this moment in time is not enough to make you sick in the stomach. Greed and selfish doesn't even come close.


Think they have to tomorrow to agree but isn't a good look when some other players agreed to a deferral almost immediately but our lot are still umming and arring about it.

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Re: Ngel Howe on radio

by Stranded » 29 Apr 2020 14:27

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Find the write up Star did on the accounts which explains it all pretty clearly,
First thing is that you need to understand which company FFP applies to. It does not apply to Reading FC (IIRC).


FFP loss is 11.75m, if I have found the correct figures in my super quick search.


Thanks Stranded could you let me have link Ta


https://star-reading.org/news/2018-19-accounts-analysis


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by Nameless » 29 Apr 2020 14:28

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Find the write up Star did on the accounts which explains it all pretty clearly,
First thing is that you need to understand which company FFP applies to. It does not apply to Reading FC (IIRC).


FFP loss is 11.75m, if I have found the correct figures in my super quick search.


Thanks Stranded could you let me have link Ta


https://star-reading.org/wp-content/upl ... -FINAL.pdf

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Re: Ngel Howe on radio

by Zip » 29 Apr 2020 14:35

Agree with the general sentiment towards the players. We are losing huge amounts of match day revenue. They are currently not having to work full pelt and are being asked to take a deferral. It really shouldn’t be a big issue.
They will lose a lot of goodwill if they are difficult over this.

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by Nameless » 29 Apr 2020 16:14

I would be amazed if the players en masse have refused to defer. It just doesn’t sound like the attitude we would etc from the likes of Moore, Meite , McLeary or Gunter. I would imagine there are a small number who are refusing and the aimis to get everyone on board. I wouldn’t speculate on who might be refusing because it would be unfair. You could see that a player at the end of their contract with no new deal in place might be reluctant to give up what might be their last pay day for quite a while. You would think this could be got round by just paying those contacts upnow.
Who knows. But I agree with the sentiment that this doesn’t look right and would backfire hugely. I would be reluctant to go and cheer players who appeared to be puttting personal interests ahead of the club.

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by Jagermesiter1871 » 29 Apr 2020 17:35

Just goes further to prove the oxf*rd we have in the squad.

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by SCIAG » 29 Apr 2020 17:36

Definitely wouldn’t rush to judgement. Historically we’ve employed a few players who used their wages to support charities in their home countries. We don’t know if perhaps one or two players are holding out because they think bleeding a couple of rich Chinese people and their rich British football club is justified if it stops some Kenyan schools from shutting down forever.

Obviously that is pure speculation but I find the moralising very strange. It’s not as if they’re hiding in hospital car parks and mugging the nurses for a living.

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by Hound » 29 Apr 2020 18:13

yeah never like to judge too much- esp when it comes to what people do with their money

mind you, unlike Howe to publicly air his frustration about it - suspect it might be a case of one or two holding things up

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Re: Ngel Howe on radio

by paddy20 » 29 Apr 2020 18:56

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FFP loss is 11.75m, if I have found the correct figures in my super quick search.


Thanks Stranded could you let me have link Ta


https://star-reading.org/wp-content/upl ... -FINAL.pdf


thanks stranded, really interesting article

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