Wasn't it Clement playing Meite on the right of 3 what basically made him as a player here.
Debt of gratitude owed there.
I think he also broke Rino into the side.
Another debt owed there.
by Snowflake Royal » 28 Jan 2022 12:50
by URZZZZ » 28 Jan 2022 12:58
Snowflake Royal Wasn't it Clement playing Meite on the right of 3 what basically made him as a player here.
Debt of gratitude owed there.
I think he also broke Rino into the side.
Another debt owed there.
by Royal_jimmy » 28 Jan 2022 13:31
muirinhoSnowflake Royal And yet the list of strikers who had that ability who have failed here is quite long.
Vydra
Grabban
Sharpe
Yakubu
Sa
Appiah (pace)
....
and judging that McNulty definitely couldn't step up based on 15 bit part appearances seems a little much.
Puscas doesn't really have what you describe and neither did Church. Both have had decent seasons with us at some point.
You're surely having a laugh mentioning Yakubu! He practically had his pension by then.
Grabban came to us on the back of a season and a half of barely playing at all, let alone scoring - not surprising he never really got going in a half-season loan.
Sa did alright for us, McDermott either didn't like him or there was something else going on behind the scenes, because he didn't really feature after that. Note he's only had one decent season since he left us
Appiah is at best a League One striker, he did no worse for us than he did for any other Championship team he played with.
Sharpe was in the doldrums in his career when he came to us, the following two seasons at different clubs he was not better. He needed the drop-down to League 1 to rediscover himself.
And Vydra is a very streaky inconsistent player, he's had seasons just as bad in terms of goals scored, elsewhere.
If you're saying - we're bad at persuading decent strikers to come and play for us, that's one thing. But I don't think you can say the strikers we have had play significantly worse for us than they do for anybody else. Of the above, the only one I think it applies to is Grabban.
Puscas and Vydra really worked their socks off when they weren't scoring, despite the system not suiting their strengths. McNulty just isn't that kind of player.
I think, btw, if Vydra had been ours rather than a loan player, he'd still have been kept and played the following season because of what he offered elsewhere on the pitch, same as Puscas is now.
If OTOH you're a poacher that isn't poaching, and you don't do anything else you're not going to get the same chances
by Hound » 28 Jan 2022 13:35
URZZZZSnowflake Royal Wasn't it Clement playing Meite on the right of 3 what basically made him as a player here.
Debt of gratitude owed there.
I think he also broke Rino into the side.
Another debt owed there.
Meite played in several positions under Clement IIRC, on the right, left, and centre. Certainly wasn’t consistently on the right as I remember Clement went for the dreadful duo of Gunter and Aluko on that side on too many occasions. But Clement was definitely the one to give him a chance. Could be under the wrong impression and only based off a guess but don’t think Stam was too keen on him
Definitely brought Rino into the team though
by skipper » 28 Jan 2022 15:05
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 28 Jan 2022 16:45
by URZZZZ » 28 Jan 2022 18:17
HoundURZZZZSnowflake Royal Wasn't it Clement playing Meite on the right of 3 what basically made him as a player here.
Debt of gratitude owed there.
I think he also broke Rino into the side.
Another debt owed there.
Meite played in several positions under Clement IIRC, on the right, left, and centre. Certainly wasn’t consistently on the right as I remember Clement went for the dreadful duo of Gunter and Aluko on that side on too many occasions. But Clement was definitely the one to give him a chance. Could be under the wrong impression and only based off a guess but don’t think Stam was too keen on him
Definitely brought Rino into the team though
Stam brought in Meite, but barely played him season 1 and shipped him out season 2. Think the expectation was Meite would drift away, but Clement started him up front in pre season friendlies, where he impressed far more than everyone expected. Think it took off from there. So yes, probably Clement's big success. Side note - didn't realise he scored 12 in 19 starts last year. His goal record for us is exceptional.
He did bring in Rino, but I think there was a feeling he should have done so sooner. But some credit due.
Guess we shouldn't revise too much with PC though - the football was generally turgid and we were at a pretty low ebb when he left. Nobody was particularly disappointed when he left, even though there was a sense that he was very slowly turning the corner
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