Paul Ince appointed interim manager

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by From Despair To Where? » 20 Feb 2022 07:49

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Pepe the Horseman Courtney Friday has said Ince isn't a Kia client, was just a wind up, so everyone can calm down about that too.


Not sure I would place too much faith in a man who could not even pronounce the previous name of our stadium properly.
According to Jonathan Low Kia has been behind the appointment of Ince.


According to Jonathan Low, we were signing Yermas Dildo. Courtney Friday is a twat but Low is utterly useless. The only scoop he ever got had ice cream in it.

The only agency I can find Ince being signed to us one for after dinner speaking and personal apoearances and it's not owned by Kia.

These rumours of Cannavaro are interesting though. 56% win ratio but it's nearly all in China. He has done well at every club he's managed though. With our current financial woes, not sure how we could afford him.

Cannavaro would definitely be a Kia appointment though. He was trying toget hom through the door at Everton a couple of weeks ago.
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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by NathStPaul » 20 Feb 2022 08:01

I'm very much against anyone coming in who hasn't got a lot of English football experience along with the proven ability to get the best out of poor squads, something we are likely to have next season.

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by Stranded » 20 Feb 2022 08:02

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Pepe the Horseman Courtney Friday has said Ince isn't a Kia client, was just a wind up, so everyone can calm down about that too.


Not sure I would place too much faith in a man who could not even pronounce the previous name of our stadium properly.
According to Jonathan Low Kia has been behind the appointment of Ince.


According to Jonathan Low, we were signing Yermas Dildo. Courtney Friday is a twat but Low is utterly useless. The only scoop he ever got had ice cream in it.

The only agency I can find Ince being signed to us one for after dinner speaking and personal apoearances and it's not owned by Kia.

These rumours of Cannavaro are interesting though. 56% win ratio but it's nearly all in China. He has done well at every club he's managed though. With our current financial woes, not sure how we could afford him.


Is there talk about Cannavaro from anyone bar Paul?

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by From Despair To Where? » 20 Feb 2022 08:12

I've seen a couple of mentions but he's been touting himself out recently saying he would love to work in England and would be happy in the Championship. He's got experience in China and his agent is Kia. Ticks a lot of boxes

He was paid $10.6m a year at Guangzhou but they are the best team in China. He interviewed for Everton and Watford. He also get back to back promotion and Champions League qualification with Tianjin so not sure why he would come here.

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by Pepe the Horseman » 20 Feb 2022 08:14

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Not sure I would place too much faith in a man who could not even pronounce the previous name of our stadium properly.
According to Jonathan Low Kia has been behind the appointment of Ince.


According to Jonathan Low, we were signing Yermas Dildo. Courtney Friday is a twat but Low is utterly useless. The only scoop he ever got had ice cream in it.

The only agency I can find Ince being signed to us one for after dinner speaking and personal apoearances and it's not owned by Kia.

These rumours of Cannavaro are interesting though. 56% win ratio but it's nearly all in China. He has done well at every club he's managed though. With our current financial woes, not sure how we could afford him.


Is there talk about Cannavaro from anyone bar Paul?

Just Paul and a reputable sports journalist from Bangkok.


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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by Pepe the Horseman » 20 Feb 2022 08:15

From Despair To Where? I've seen a couple of mentions but he's been touting himself out recently saying he would love to work in England and would be happy in the Championship. He's got experience in China and his agent is Kia. Ticks a lot of boxes

He was paid $10.6m a year at Guangzhou but they are the best team in China. He interviewed for Everton and Watford. He also get back to back promotion and Champions League qualification with Tianjin so not sure why he would come here.

Would he be the most handsome manager in the league? And the most handsome manager we've ever had?

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by Snowflake Royal » 20 Feb 2022 08:17

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And negativity would have been just as justified then as it was now. If we had a shit squad that over-performed but weren't good enough no one would have any complaints. Our squad is clearly capable and all anyone has to do is have eyes (or ears) and witness the myriad of baffling and incompetant decisions which got us into this mess. I'm not saying there aren't problems higher up, of course there are, but Kia didn't tell Pauno to stick with Joao for the entirety of the second half of last season when it was clear to everyone he needed a break. Dai didn't tell Pauno to stick with a defensive 4-2-3-1 and bottle countless 'must-win' games which saw us throw away a fantastic opportunity for promotion. Dayong Pang didn't tell Pauno to disrupt the previously successful Rino/Laurent partnership, or to implement the worst example of zonal marking the world has ever seen, to stick 11 men back for corners so we have no outlet, to not make substitutions or to make illogical ones.

Ultimately we are where we are in the league (-6 points) because of footballing decisions. To say anything else is extremely revisionary.


No revisionism going on. Pauno had to go but it should have happened well before now and to sack him and expect to take the team to Preston was ridiculous.
He has taken all the flak whilst the hierarchy have gotten away with it. We are in a rotten state and good luck to anybody coming in to manage us because they are going to need it. It’s about time the board started showing some balls.They are fukking invisible.

Yeah, worked out terribly didn't it.

We all know the owners are shit as well zip. Them being shit doesn’t make Pauno any less shit. They're both awful. You don’t have to pick one or the other, you can dislike both.

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by Orion1871 » 20 Feb 2022 08:35

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According to Jonathan Low, we were signing Yermas Dildo. Courtney Friday is a twat but Low is utterly useless. The only scoop he ever got had ice cream in it.

The only agency I can find Ince being signed to us one for after dinner speaking and personal apoearances and it's not owned by Kia.

These rumours of Cannavaro are interesting though. 56% win ratio but it's nearly all in China. He has done well at every club he's managed though. With our current financial woes, not sure how we could afford him.


Is there talk about Cannavaro from anyone bar Paul?

Just Paul and a reputable sports journalist from Bangkok.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by From Despair To Where? » 20 Feb 2022 08:42

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And negativity would have been just as justified then as it was now. If we had a shit squad that over-performed but weren't good enough no one would have any complaints. Our squad is clearly capable and all anyone has to do is have eyes (or ears) and witness the myriad of baffling and incompetant decisions which got us into this mess. I'm not saying there aren't problems higher up, of course there are, but Kia didn't tell Pauno to stick with Joao for the entirety of the second half of last season when it was clear to everyone he needed a break. Dai didn't tell Pauno to stick with a defensive 4-2-3-1 and bottle countless 'must-win' games which saw us throw away a fantastic opportunity for promotion. Dayong Pang didn't tell Pauno to disrupt the previously successful Rino/Laurent partnership, or to implement the worst example of zonal marking the world has ever seen, to stick 11 men back for corners so we have no outlet, to not make substitutions or to make illogical ones.

Ultimately we are where we are in the league (-6 points) because of footballing decisions. To say anything else is extremely revisionary.


No revisionism going on. Pauno had to go but it should have happened well before now and to sack him and expect to take the team to Preston was ridiculous.
He has taken all the flak whilst the hierarchy have gotten away with it. We are in a rotten state and good luck to anybody coming in to manage us because they are going to need it. It’s about time the board started showing some balls.They are fukking invisible.

Yeah, worked out terribly didn't it.

We all know the owners are shit as well zip. Them being shit doesn’t make Pauno any less shit. They're both awful. You don’t have to pick one or the other, you can dislike both.


..and just because he's been shit doesn't mean you can't acknowledge that he's been treated poorly by the club.


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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by WestYorksRoyal » 20 Feb 2022 09:19

Ince's career record is decent and he's been in firefighting positions before. I think this is a decent appointment.

Do we know if Kia is his agent?

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by From Despair To Where? » 20 Feb 2022 09:39

It would appear not. He does seem to be signed up to an agency owned by Jimmy Bullard though.
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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by Millsy » 20 Feb 2022 09:40

Nothing wrong with announcing the sacking after a win. Happens all the time as obviously decisions are taken beforehand. Or letting him travel up as it was mutual and allowed a chance to leave on a high. I’d have been gutted not to have a final chance, with Meite back.

But yes we agree Owners cocked up not sacking him after Fulham. And this rumour about a 3 year contract offer to Pauno in December :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by Zip » 20 Feb 2022 09:52

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No revisionism going on. Pauno had to go but it should have happened well before now and to sack him and expect to take the team to Preston was ridiculous.
He has taken all the flak whilst the hierarchy have gotten away with it. We are in a rotten state and good luck to anybody coming in to manage us because they are going to need it. It’s about time the board started showing some balls.They are fukking invisible.

Yeah, worked out terribly didn't it.

We all know the owners are shit as well zip. Them being shit doesn’t make Pauno any less shit. They're both awful. You don’t have to pick one or the other, you can dislike both.


..and just because he's been shit doesn't mean you can't acknowledge that he's been treated poorly by the club.



Exactly.


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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by NathStPaul » 20 Feb 2022 10:23

I wrote a poem about Paul Ince back when I was in year 8, got very high marks too. I will try and find it and post it, believe it was in a frame.

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by blueroyals » 20 Feb 2022 11:17

Is it beyond the realm of possibility that Paul sensed an opportunity to reignite his managerial career and do his son a favour by suggesting that he does a job for free until the end of the season? Therefore removing the only obstacle to sacking Pauno - not being able to afford bringing anybody new in.

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by Uke » 20 Feb 2022 11:20

blueroyals Is it beyond the realm of possibility that Paul sensed an opportunity to reignite his managerial career and do his son a favour by suggesting that he does a job for free until the end of the season? Therefore removing the only obstacle to sacking Pauno - not being able to afford bringing anybody new in.


Yes it is

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by John Madejski's Wallet » 20 Feb 2022 11:20

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leon Right so Paunovic is now the victim as opposed to someone who’s been dragging us down?

Seriously chaps. There’s been very little chanting for him to be out, no online hate campaign, there’s been absolutely no ridiculous things like death threats or issues with family.

You know, like those loveable types the Geordies do to their managers.

Get a grip. He was massively shit.


Your thoughts on our owners and board of directors in all of this?


Well they weren’t making the team unfit to play 90+ minutes, utterly disorganised, lacking any plan whatsoever and completely failing in any game management.

On the board of directors?

Should have sacked the clown months ago.

And then themselves.

With Leon here.

People can say he was treated badly by the club and dealt a bad hand with the Joao and Meite injuries, but the obsessive zonal marking, 1 up front when chasing the game, ridiculously late subs, and all the other team failures are absolutely on him

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by Uke » 20 Feb 2022 11:24

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Your thoughts on our owners and board of directors in all of this?


Well they weren’t making the team unfit to play 90+ minutes, utterly disorganised, lacking any plan whatsoever and completely failing in any game management.

On the board of directors?

Should have sacked the clown months ago.

And then themselves.

With Leon here.

People can say he was treated badly by the club and dealt a bad hand with the Joao and Meite injuries, but the obsessive zonal marking, 1 up front when chasing the game, ridiculously late subs, and all the other team failures are absolutely on him


If only there were some clues as to how this would end on Pauno’s arrival

https://thetilehurstend.sbnation.com/20 ... o-paunovic

This is a very interesting read in retrospect and well done to the Tilehurst End for spotting the risks!

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by Snowflake Royal » 20 Feb 2022 11:28

Its not like the hand he was dealt or way he was treated was much worse than most our other recent managers. And he sure as hell got way more time than most of them.

Bowen got replaced without being fired after turning relegation into mid-table.
Gomes had a DoF brought in over his head and signings made without his knowledge
Clement got very little time.

All of them had to operate under heavy transfer restrictions the majority of the time.

Our injury record this season has been spectacular but it was poor under all his recent predecessors too. And its also pretty clear his training methods are at least partly to blame. How many hamstrings have gone under little strain in matches now? 2? 3? 4?

His entire game plan was go out there pass until something good happens.

Boo oxf*rd hoo.

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Re: Paul Ince appointed interim manager

by Mr Angry » 20 Feb 2022 11:29

Pauno had to go, not only for the obvious reasons (terrible results, awful decision making, inexplicable substitution policy) but for both the clear off field dysfunctionality that has grown ever worse over the course of this season (and arguable from the latter half of last season) and the utter toxicity of the relationship between the fans and the club.

As for Ince coming in; to be honest at this stage, anyone - literally anyone - is likely to be better than Pauno at this time.

Will it be enough for us to fend off Derby? Who know's, but at least it gives us a fighting chance.

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