by paultheroyal » 25 Jan 2023 09:10
by Coppells Lost Coat » 25 Jan 2023 09:34
by Crowbar6753 » 25 Jan 2023 15:23
Snowflake Royal Hendrick taking up Ince's position to push him out wide is one of the crazier ideas I've read on here.
by Snowflake Royal » 25 Jan 2023 17:20
paultheroyal I think people treat Holmes and Mcintyre like they did Rhinomota and Laurent - untouchable, when in fact when you pull back the layers they are really not good at this level.
We were poor defensively last year and its been repeated again with those 2 at the helm.
Team needs to be built around Sarr and Mbengue and those 2 can raise their levels to get back in.
Lumley is more than adequate.
by Snowflake Royal » 25 Jan 2023 17:23
Crowbar6753Snowflake Royal Hendrick taking up Ince's position to push him out wide is one of the crazier ideas I've read on here.
Maybe I'm wrong here but I'm pretty sure that is and pretty much always was Inces's preferred and best position. Sean Dyche has also gone on record as saying Hendricks best position is just behind the forwards as a link.
Is playing Ince out wide any worse than playing Yids as a CB, Hoilett as a WB and just playing Babba in general over NGW?
by fred sharpes nose » 25 Jan 2023 18:47
by paultheroyal » 25 Jan 2023 21:48
Snowflake Royalpaultheroyal I think people treat Holmes and Mcintyre like they did Rhinomota and Laurent - untouchable, when in fact when you pull back the layers they are really not good at this level.
We were poor defensively last year and its been repeated again with those 2 at the helm.
Team needs to be built around Sarr and Mbengue and those 2 can raise their levels to get back in.
Lumley is more than adequate.
Sarr has been a complete flop. Had one good game pre injury and rubbish since.
Saying we should ditch Holmes and build a team around a kid and a flop.
by Notts Royal » 25 Jan 2023 23:02
YorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal Hendrick taking up Ince's position to push him out wide is one of the crazier ideas I've read on here.
Pushing the player into a position where his own Dad has said he is best? Yeah really daft.
by Stranded » 26 Jan 2023 08:10
Notts RoyalYorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal Hendrick taking up Ince's position to push him out wide is one of the crazier ideas I've read on here.
Pushing the player into a position where his own Dad has said he is best? Yeah really daft.
Tom Ince has played a fair amount of his career as an inside forward in a 4-3-3 I believe. It would also allow Meite to play on the other side, and I think we’ve established he’s far better out wide than through the middle. The big conundrum would be which of the strikers would play on his own centrally. But having Ince & Meite near to him would be better than what we currently have from an attacking sense
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 26 Jan 2023 08:42
Snowflake RoyalCrowbar6753Snowflake Royal Hendrick taking up Ince's position to push him out wide is one of the crazier ideas I've read on here.
Maybe I'm wrong here but I'm pretty sure that is and pretty much always was Inces's preferred and best position. Sean Dyche has also gone on record as saying Hendricks best position is just behind the forwards as a link.
Is playing Ince out wide any worse than playing Yids as a CB, Hoilett as a WB and just playing Babba in general over NGW?
I'm more interested in where players are at now. And Ince's best for us has been behind a striker. The one time I can recall he was out wide this season he was anonymous, and he's performed better this season than last when he played wide more.
As for Hendrick, he doesn’t create a lot, his shooting is poor and he's not that quick.
Absolutely no reason to screw around with the performance of our standout player.
by Snowflake Royal » 26 Jan 2023 09:43
paultheroyalSnowflake Royalpaultheroyal I think people treat Holmes and Mcintyre like they did Rhinomota and Laurent - untouchable, when in fact when you pull back the layers they are really not good at this level.
We were poor defensively last year and its been repeated again with those 2 at the helm.
Team needs to be built around Sarr and Mbengue and those 2 can raise their levels to get back in.
Lumley is more than adequate.
Sarr has been a complete flop. Had one good game pre injury and rubbish since.
Saying we should ditch Holmes and build a team around a kid and a flop.
In your opinion.
by Snowflake Royal » 26 Jan 2023 09:46
YorkshireRoyal99Snowflake RoyalCrowbar6753
Maybe I'm wrong here but I'm pretty sure that is and pretty much always was Inces's preferred and best position. Sean Dyche has also gone on record as saying Hendricks best position is just behind the forwards as a link.
Is playing Ince out wide any worse than playing Yids as a CB, Hoilett as a WB and just playing Babba in general over NGW?
I'm more interested in where players are at now. And Ince's best for us has been behind a striker. The one time I can recall he was out wide this season he was anonymous, and he's performed better this season than last when he played wide more.
As for Hendrick, he doesn’t create a lot, his shooting is poor and he's not that quick.
Absolutely no reason to screw around with the performance of our standout player.
But Ince has played behind the striker for the majority of the season, so he's bound to be "best" there based on that. If the counter-argument is because he didn't do something in one game, it doesn't really stand up very well.
We wouldn't be using Hendrick for that purpose though. Dyche specifically mentions, from the defensive point, that his engine and pressing were an asset to Burnley. Not just that, Dyche also mentions he can make good runs and can get himself into the box. Those runs might just be able to open up the space for someone else i.e. Joao, Ince/Meite coming in off the channel, a deep runner etc.
Some fans also say we are too easy to play against in the midfield and teams are able to build through the thirds quite easily against us, so having someone who can press well from the front and possibly force errors, force turnovers or even force longer balls, that also might make us harder to play against and harder to play through.
by URZZZZ » 26 Jan 2023 10:15
Notts RoyalYorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal Hendrick taking up Ince's position to push him out wide is one of the crazier ideas I've read on here.
Pushing the player into a position where his own Dad has said he is best? Yeah really daft.
Tom Ince has played a fair amount of his career as an inside forward in a 4-3-3 I believe. It would also allow Meite to play on the other side, and I think we’ve established he’s far better out wide than through the middle. The big conundrum would be which of the strikers would play on his own centrally. But having Ince & Meite near to him would be better than what we currently have from an attacking sense
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 26 Jan 2023 10:19
Snowflake RoyalYorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal I'm more interested in where players are at now. And Ince's best for us has been behind a striker. The one time I can recall he was out wide this season he was anonymous, and he's performed better this season than last when he played wide more.
As for Hendrick, he doesn’t create a lot, his shooting is poor and he's not that quick.
Absolutely no reason to screw around with the performance of our standout player.
But Ince has played behind the striker for the majority of the season, so he's bound to be "best" there based on that. If the counter-argument is because he didn't do something in one game, it doesn't really stand up very well.
We wouldn't be using Hendrick for that purpose though. Dyche specifically mentions, from the defensive point, that his engine and pressing were an asset to Burnley. Not just that, Dyche also mentions he can make good runs and can get himself into the box. Those runs might just be able to open up the space for someone else i.e. Joao, Ince/Meite coming in off the channel, a deep runner etc.
Some fans also say we are too easy to play against in the midfield and teams are able to build through the thirds quite easily against us, so having someone who can press well from the front and possibly force errors, force turnovers or even force longer balls, that also might make us harder to play against and harder to play through.
Why change the bit that is working.
What has Hendrick done this season to show great engine and pressing?
When we struggle to create, why is your answer to put someone.less creative further forward so we can defend from the front better.
Weren't Burnley a side that struggled to create under Dyche.
by Hound » 26 Jan 2023 10:36
by paultheroyal » 26 Jan 2023 10:46
Snowflake RoyalpaultheroyalSnowflake Royal Sarr has been a complete flop. Had one good game pre injury and rubbish since.
Saying we should ditch Holmes and build a team around a kid and a flop.
In your opinion.
And many others. Holmes is widely regarded as our best defender this season, and Sarr has received lots of criticism for poor performances since his return.
by URZZZZ » 26 Jan 2023 10:55
Hound I’m not anyone is playing especially well at the moment which makes it hard to pick the side. Not playing terribly either mind you
Would be happy enough with 4-4-2 or a close variation of it. Whatever we do don’t think it’ll be too pretty this year. Struggling to find a team that inspires but a workman like
Lumley
Yiadom Holmes Sarr NGW
Ince Loum Hendrick Azeez
Carroll Meite
Seems about as good as I can come up with. Obvs Ince won’t go for that left side but I’m not sure Junior ‘1 goal no assists’ is the answer either
Am sick of the 3 at the back and crap wingbacks though
by Hound » 26 Jan 2023 11:28
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 26 Jan 2023 11:54
paultheroyalSnowflake Royalpaultheroyal
In your opinion.
And many others. Holmes is widely regarded as our best defender this season, and Sarr has received lots of criticism for poor performances since his return.
and equally many regard Holmes as a weak link and slow and Sarr has received positive comments from a couple of stellar performances. You do realise that when he plays we have won more games than we lose. Funny that.
by Snowflake Royal » 26 Jan 2023 12:04
paultheroyalSnowflake Royalpaultheroyal
In your opinion.
And many others. Holmes is widely regarded as our best defender this season, and Sarr has received lots of criticism for poor performances since his return.
and equally many regard Holmes as a weak link and slow and Sarr has received positive comments from a couple of stellar performances. You do realise that when he plays we have won more games than we lose. Funny that.