by PATRIQT » 17 Jun 2023 16:44
by Royals and Racers » 17 Jun 2023 20:15
by Hound » 17 Jun 2023 20:31
by Snowflake Royal » 18 Jun 2023 09:26
by SCIAG » 18 Jun 2023 10:25
Snowflake Royal Possibly Dorsett if you include him.
There's likely to be the odd surprise too.
I don’t think I saw anyone talking about Abrefa or Rinomhota or Richards as potential first teamers before they broke through.
by blythspartan » 18 Jun 2023 10:53
by Snowflake Royal » 18 Jun 2023 12:04
SCIAG I don't follow any of our teams as closely as I used to but I've been to more youth team games than first team in the last year R&R knows more than me.
Abrefa is quality but I think people know that already. Dorsett and Abbey should be good enough in League One.
The first time I saw Carson play he got sent off in a really stupid way, and I haven't been convinced by him since but I know R&R is. Don't rate John Clarke.
Craig is tidy, hopefully he and Senga can pick up some minutes in the middle. Mamadi Camara looked really good a year ago, but for whatever reason hasn't pushed on the way I'd expected.
Then Kelvin E and Jahmari Clarke both have quality but aren't necessarily out-and-out strikers. It's easy to look at them and see two tall, quick forwards, but Kelvin is more about playing slightly off the striker and finding little passes in tight spaces, while Jahmari is very comfortable coming in from the left. If either of them worked a bit more on their "poaching" then they could be very good strikers.
The younger ones to look out for are Harvey Maunder and Luca Fletcher. Maunder is an attacking midfielder who scored shedloads at U18 but got a bad injury and hasn't quite stepped up yet. Fletcher is a 16-year-old striker who has just done his GCSEs and is being strongly linked with Man City - if we keep him then word is he'll be in the first-team squad next season. His agent is Jay-Z.
Not sure what is going on with Basil Tuma who had such a promising debut.Snowflake Royal Possibly Dorsett if you include him.
There's likely to be the odd surprise too.
I don’t think I saw anyone talking about Abrefa or Rinomhota or Richards as potential first teamers before they broke through.
I remember I had picked out Richards as a first-team contender the year that he broke through (receipt). Nameless also talking him up in the same thread. A few of us were talking up Abrefa.
People who didn't follow the youth sides were hyping up Rinomhota because we had no fit senior defensive midfielders, but I poured cold water on the suggestion about two weeks before he made his debut Think my words were "he's not nearly as good as Kelly".
by Hound » 19 Jun 2023 08:49
by South Coast Royal » 19 Jun 2023 10:39
by Snowflake Royal » 19 Jun 2023 12:22
Hound Tbf Kelly at his best (Stam season 1) was better than Rino at his best imo
by Snowflake Royal » 19 Jun 2023 12:23
South Coast Royal Not yet convinced, unlike others, about Abrefa.
Hope to be proved wrong and that he develops quickly in the way Richards did.
by Hound » 19 Jun 2023 12:36
Snowflake RoyalSouth Coast Royal Not yet convinced, unlike others, about Abrefa.
Hope to be proved wrong and that he develops quickly in the way Richards did.
I think the only thing people are convinced on with Abrefa is he has potential and we need to use him to see if he can live up to it.
by URZZZZ » 19 Jun 2023 13:42
Snowflake RoyalHound Tbf Kelly at his best (Stam season 1) was better than Rino at his best imo
On a technical level 100%. Not completely convinced I'd pick Kelly first tho.
by Hound » 19 Jun 2023 15:58
URZZZZSnowflake RoyalHound Tbf Kelly at his best (Stam season 1) was better than Rino at his best imo
On a technical level 100%. Not completely convinced I'd pick Kelly first tho.
Think people forget how good Rinomhota was in that first season. A real calm, composed head in the middle amongst more of the “flair players” in the likes of Kelly, Swift and Bacuna
Ruined by the ineptitude of later managers who decided to play him in a position which severely restricted his abilities. Asking him to play as the CDM was a really poor move
He picked it up again under Paunovic briefly but then kept picking up injuries and it was unfortunately the time to move him on. Doesn’t look like he’s had a very good season at Cardiff
Shame because Rinomhota and Kelly had lots of potential but yet more examples of poor management of decent players
by Vision » 19 Jun 2023 23:33
Snowflake RoyalSouth Coast Royal Not yet convinced, unlike others, about Abrefa.
Hope to be proved wrong and that he develops quickly in the way Richards did.
I think the only thing people are convinced on with Abrefa is he has potential and we need to use him to see if he can live up to it.
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 21 Jun 2023 08:54
VisionSnowflake RoyalSouth Coast Royal Not yet convinced, unlike others, about Abrefa.
Hope to be proved wrong and that he develops quickly in the way Richards did.
I think the only thing people are convinced on with Abrefa is he has potential and we need to use him to see if he can live up to it.
Yep and thanks to Ince we know nothing more about him now than we did at the start of the season.
Say what you like about Gomes and Pauno ( God knows there’s plenty negative to say ) but we’d have known by now if we had a Richards or a Bristow on our hands.
by Hound » 21 Jun 2023 09:07
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 21 Jun 2023 09:36
by Snowflake Royal » 21 Jun 2023 12:14
YorkshireRoyal99VisionSnowflake Royal I think the only thing people are convinced on with Abrefa is he has potential and we need to use him to see if he can live up to it.
Yep and thanks to Ince we know nothing more about him now than we did at the start of the season.
Say what you like about Gomes and Pauno ( God knows there’s plenty negative to say ) but we’d have known by now if we had a Richards or a Bristow on our hands.
Bristow? Was he really rated? He made half a dozen appearances for us and all the games I saw him play I thought he was ok, but nothing special. I can see why the club released him to be fair.
There are plenty in the U21's with enough potential, not sure how many are going to make it with us. First and foremost, I want to see Azeez really stand out which I think he can at this level. Abrefa might all depend if Yiadom stays or goes. Not too sure how many others are that close, maybe Kelvin E for a squad place or Jahmari Clarke, Dorsett as well. The rest might need another year +.
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 21 Jun 2023 12:14
Snowflake RoyalYorkshireRoyal99Vision
Yep and thanks to Ince we know nothing more about him now than we did at the start of the season.
Say what you like about Gomes and Pauno ( God knows there’s plenty negative to say ) but we’d have known by now if we had a Richards or a Bristow on our hands.
Bristow? Was he really rated? He made half a dozen appearances for us and all the games I saw him play I thought he was ok, but nothing special. I can see why the club released him to be fair.
There are plenty in the U21's with enough potential, not sure how many are going to make it with us. First and foremost, I want to see Azeez really stand out which I think he can at this level. Abrefa might all depend if Yiadom stays or goes. Not too sure how many others are that close, maybe Kelvin E for a squad place or Jahmari Clarke, Dorsett as well. The rest might need another year +.
I think Vision's point is that by playing them we confirmed Bristow wasn’t up to it and shipped him out.
Nothing to do with being rated.
Although it's a generous interpretation because we only played Bristow because we didn’t have any alternatives until we signed Rahman.