Mid Sussex RoyalRoyals and Racers SBWD have issued new statement.
I sometimes think SBWD need to consider the bigger picture and why these punishments are levied.
Mid Sussex RoyalRoyals and Racers SBWD have issued new statement.
I sometimes think SBWD need to consider the bigger picture and why these punishments are levied.
MartinRdg Maybe SBWD should keep the EFL on side
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/reading-message-efl-points-deduction-2929145?ITO=newsnow
WestYorksRoyal What does our summer look like if we know from the outset that Dai can't/ won't pay our bills? No Knibbs/Wing/Smith/Savage, perhaps Holmes and McIntyre sold. Maybe we'd still get Dean and Button.
Put it this way, I think we're in a better position with the players and the points deduction than the other way around.
Mid Sussex RoyalRoyals and Racers SBWD have issued new statement.
I sometimes think SBWD need to consider the bigger picture and why these punishments are levied.
tmesisWestYorksRoyal What does our summer look like if we know from the outset that Dai can't/ won't pay our bills? No Knibbs/Wing/Smith/Savage, perhaps Holmes and McIntyre sold. Maybe we'd still get Dean and Button.
Put it this way, I think we're in a better position with the players and the points deduction than the other way around.
I think this is where is gets awkward. There's no doubt that clubs around us will say that we are gaining an advantage because of our overspending (not that we have an expensive squad by any means).
The problem with that though is that there does not appear to have been any breach of FFP rules this time round, and running at a loss isn't against any rules. I suspect about 80% of the clubs in the league are running at a loss.
Reading4evaMartinRdg Maybe SBWD should keep the EFL on side
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/reading-message-efl-points-deduction-2929145?ITO=newsnow
No, oxf*rd them.
We have co-operated all this time, been decent, pleasant and how is that repaid?
When there is a glimmer of hope that this club and its very young group of players begin to rise from the ashes, they do what they have done today.
FCK THE EFL
Snowflake RoyalReading4evaMartinRdg Maybe SBWD should keep the EFL on side
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/reading-message-efl-points-deduction-2929145?ITO=newsnow
No, oxf*rd them.
We have co-operated all this time, been decent, pleasant and how is that repaid?
When there is a glimmer of hope that this club and its very young group of players begin to rise from the ashes, they do what they have done today.
FCK THE EFL
How have 'we' cooperated?
The 'club' has commited to agreements to avoid sanctions and reneged on them multiple times.
The 'club' has cheated financially for years.
The 'club' has failed to pay its players and tax on time repeatedly.
The 'owner' has lied, failed to fund the club, cheated and ignored fines at every opportunity.
The 'fans' have disrupted multiple games. Sung unjustified abuse at the FL and forced a game to be abandoned with a prolonged pitch invasion.
None of these things are acceptable behaviour from the FL's point of view, and more importantly, against the rules all 'clubs', 'owners' and 'fans' are supposed to abide by and in the case of 'clubs' and 'owners' sign up to and create.
GreatwesternlineMid Sussex RoyalRoyals and Racers SBWD have issued new statement.
I sometimes think SBWD need to consider the bigger picture and why these punishments are levied.
Yep.
I could do an annotation of what is wrong with that SBWD statement. Most paragraphs to be honest.
Para 1 - You need sporting sanctions to stop clubs from breaching financial fair play. As can be seen from our form over the past 20 games, we are running a play-off contention first 11 which the club doesnt have the resources to maintain. We are therefore gaining a sporting advantage over other clubs who are paying their taxes and wage bills on time but who have a less competitive squad.
Para 2 - Not imposing fines because of an impending sale would be treating Reading preferentially due to its own commercial concerns, so clearly that would be improper.
Para 3 - Just because someone isnt paying a fine, doesnt mean you stop issuing the fines when they continue to break the rules. Obviously.
Para 4 - The number of points we have had deducted is a function of the period time over which we have been breaking the rules - or known as cheating by others.
Para 5 - Of course the EFL do care about their rulebook more than the health and history of the clubs in the league. The rule book is there to protect the clubs' health. SBWD seem to forget we broke the financial fair play rules.
I know many people on here will disagree with those, but let's be honest, take your Reading biases out of it, and its all factually true.
Elm Park KidGreatwesternlineMid Sussex Royal
I sometimes think SBWD need to consider the bigger picture and why these punishments are levied.
Yep.
I could do an annotation of what is wrong with that SBWD statement. Most paragraphs to be honest.
Para 1 - You need sporting sanctions to stop clubs from breaching financial fair play. As can be seen from our form over the past 20 games, we are running a play-off contention first 11 which the club doesnt have the resources to maintain. We are therefore gaining a sporting advantage over other clubs who are paying their taxes and wage bills on time but who have a less competitive squad.
Para 2 - Not imposing fines because of an impending sale would be treating Reading preferentially due to its own commercial concerns, so clearly that would be improper.
Para 3 - Just because someone isnt paying a fine, doesnt mean you stop issuing the fines when they continue to break the rules. Obviously.
Para 4 - The number of points we have had deducted is a function of the period time over which we have been breaking the rules - or known as cheating by others.
Para 5 - Of course the EFL do care about their rulebook more than the health and history of the clubs in the league. The rule book is there to protect the clubs' health. SBWD seem to forget we broke the financial fair play rules.
I know many people on here will disagree with those, but let's be honest, take your Reading biases out of it, and its all factually true.
In normal circumstances I would agree with all of the above.
However . . . The continued existence of clubs has to take priority over all other factors. The rules, 'fairness', the integrity of the league .. . none of it is more important than a football club being able to continue operating and the EFL needs to recognise that.
Elm Park Kid However . . . The continued existence of clubs has to take priority over all other factors. The rules, 'fairness', the integrity of the league .. . none of it is more important than a football club being able to continue operating and the EFL needs to recognise that.
WestYorksRoyal How I see it, Bowen was told in the summer that Dai remained committed. He was lied to. We signed some good players for this level under that pretence, and now we can't afford them. So there is definitely a sporting fairness issue.
What does our summer look like if we know from the outset that Dai can't/ won't pay our bills? No Knibbs/Wing/Smith/Savage, perhaps Holmes and McIntyre sold. Maybe we'd still get Dean and Button.
Put it this way, I think we're in a better position with the players and the points deduction than the other way around.
Mid Sussex RoyalWestYorksRoyal How I see it, Bowen was told in the summer that Dai remained committed. He was lied to. We signed some good players for this level under that pretence, and now we can't afford them. So there is definitely a sporting fairness issue.
What does our summer look like if we know from the outset that Dai can't/ won't pay our bills? No Knibbs/Wing/Smith/Savage, perhaps Holmes and McIntyre sold. Maybe we'd still get Dean and Button.
Put it this way, I think we're in a better position with the players and the points deduction than the other way around.
We are in a better position no doubt. So you can argue we've gained that advantage.
Some of the player transfers in the summer were delayed because tax was behind (at least Savage from memory) so there must have been doubts then around sustainability of the wage bill whatever Bowen was told.
Reading4evaMartinRdg Maybe SBWD should keep the EFL on side
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/reading-message-efl-points-deduction-2929145?ITO=newsnow
No, oxf*rd them.
We have co-operated all this time, been decent, pleasant and how is that repaid?
When there is a glimmer of hope that this club and its very young group of players begin to rise from the ashes, they do what they have done today.
FCK THE EFL
Loafer With that message "oxf*rd the efl", sbwd have proven themselves to be much like club1871
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