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Fans’ takeover

by LUX » 27 Jun 2023 18:09

How do they work?

I’ll put in a couple of hundred quid. Five hundred if I get to choose the music on the tannoy.

Anyone else in?

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Elm Park Kid » 27 Jun 2023 18:43

Would probably need about £25m to buy the club and the same for the stadium. So, about £50m in total. Then ideally we'd need the fans to put in £13m a year (max allowed by FFP in Champ).

So, get 10,000 fans and it's only £5k each, plus an extra £1.3k a season.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Snowflake Royal » 27 Jun 2023 19:02

LUX How do they work?

I’ll put in a couple of hundred quid. Five hundred if I get to choose the music on the tannoy.

Anyone else in?

Assuming I haven't bought a house between now and then I could probably chuck in a couple of grand.

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by Snowflake Royal » 27 Jun 2023 19:05

Elm Park Kid Would probably need about £25m to buy the club and the same for the stadium. So, about £50m in total. Then ideally we'd need the fans to put in £13m a year (max allowed by FFP in Champ).

So, get 10,000 fans and it's only £5k each, plus an extra £1.3k a season.

If it gets to a fan buyout, it's because no one else is interested, which would lower the value. £40m max. Probably £30m ish. Especially as the alternative is Dai/ Administrators get less.

Stadium isn't worth a lot without the club. L1 clubs in dire need aren't worth that much.

If we were still solidly championship maybe you'd be on to something.

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by morganb » 27 Jun 2023 19:10

Do we have any:

- Rich fans
- Celebrity fans
- Rich, celebrity fans

Who could be called upon?

Uri Geller
Chris Tarrant
Ricky Gervais
Bill Oddie
Madonna (?)
That bloke in some band who hangs his flag up at the back of the stage
The Amazons
Mr and Mrs Select Car Leasing
Liam Moore
Michael Olise
(especially if Zaha can do this -

BBC News - Wilfried Zaha and rapper Stormzy are set to buy AFC Croydon
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66032753 )


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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Snowflake Royal » 27 Jun 2023 19:17

I think we'd be lucky to get £50 from Olise.

Moore does owe us something like 7 figures in poor performance penalties. Or should do.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by 72 bus » 27 Jun 2023 19:24

Elm Park Kid Would probably need about £25m to buy the club and the same for the stadium. So, about £50m in total. Then ideally we'd need the fans to put in £13m a year (max allowed by FFP in Champ).

So, get 10,000 fans and it's only £5k each, plus an extra £1.3k a season.


We're not in the Champ anymore mate, do keep up

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by 72 bus » 27 Jun 2023 19:26

[quote="morganb"]Do we have any:

- Rich fans, probably only Brobot, Leon and 72 Bus
- Celebrity fans, Chris tarrant
- Rich, celebrity fans, Ian royal

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Elm Park Kid » 27 Jun 2023 19:35

Snowflake Royal
Elm Park Kid Would probably need about £25m to buy the club and the same for the stadium. So, about £50m in total. Then ideally we'd need the fans to put in £13m a year (max allowed by FFP in Champ).

So, get 10,000 fans and it's only £5k each, plus an extra £1.3k a season.

If it gets to a fan buyout, it's because no one else is interested, which would lower the value. £40m max. Probably £30m ish. Especially as the alternative is Dai/ Administrators get less.

Stadium isn't worth a lot without the club. L1 clubs in dire need aren't worth that much.

If we were still solidly championship maybe you'd be on to something.


That was based on the £55m cost to buy out Derby and Pride Park in similar circumstances. But, obvs i'm not an expert on this.


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Re: Fans’ takeover

by blythspartan » 27 Jun 2023 19:39

I’d pay £5k.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Orion1871 » 27 Jun 2023 19:47

morganb Do we have any:

- Rich fans
- Celebrity fans
- Rich, celebrity fans

Who could be called upon?

Uri Geller
Chris Tarrant
Ricky Gervais
Bill Oddie
Madonna (?)
That bloke in some band who hangs his flag up at the back of the stage
The Amazons
Mr and Mrs Select Car Leasing
Liam Moore
Michael Olise
(especially if Zaha can do this -

BBC News - Wilfried Zaha and rapper Stormzy are set to buy AFC Croydon
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66032753 )


:roll: at The Cure being described as "some band"

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Royal_jimmy » 27 Jun 2023 20:18

Aren't the Hoosiers Reading fans too? I'm sure they've got a few bob.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by morganb » 27 Jun 2023 20:47

Orion1871
morganb Do we have any:

- Rich fans
- Celebrity fans
- Rich, celebrity fans

Who could be called upon?

Uri Geller
Chris Tarrant
Ricky Gervais
Bill Oddie
Madonna (?)
That bloke in some band who hangs his flag up at the back of the stage
The Amazons
Mr and Mrs Select Car Leasing
Liam Moore
Michael Olise
(especially if Zaha can do this -

BBC News - Wilfried Zaha and rapper Stormzy are set to buy AFC Croydon
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66032753 )


:roll: at The Cure being described as "some band"


:oops: I just couldn't remember when I was cobbling the list together... hope I've not put him/them off investing


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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Sutekh » 27 Jun 2023 21:42

Doesn't Michael Parkinson still turn up to a few games and what about Mrs Paul Daniels?

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by morganb » 27 Jun 2023 21:45

Sutekh Doesn't Michael Parkinson still turn up to a few games and what about Mrs Paul Daniels?


Now that would be magic ... Sign her up! She must be good for a few quid -

“So, what first attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels?”

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Green » 27 Jun 2023 22:09

LUX How do they work?

I’ll put in a couple of hundred quid. Five hundred if I get to choose the music on the tannoy.

Anyone else in?

What would you do at a fan run club spinoff.

I'll take bar manager.

I'd have a specially brewed house beer, from either Loddon or Renegade (contract negotiations permitting) then a rotating guest ale from the Berkshire / South Oxfordshire / North Hampshire region, and a guest from the region of the visiting opposition (appreciate that'd be one and the same for the first few seasons)
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Re: Fans’ takeover

by LUX » 27 Jun 2023 22:12

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by Dirk Gently » 27 Jun 2023 22:13

Ideally you want a small number of high net worth individuals plus the majority of supporters contributing a smaller amount.

There's the buying and then the running.

Buying a club doesn't necessarily mean spending money - often an owner is glad to get shot of a club that's expensive to run, but it all depends if they're prepared to write-off soft debt. Many are, just to get shot.

Then there's running the club - one I'm involved with has supporters contributing a set amount per month (usually £10, £20 or £30). Two thousand supporters giving a tenner a month is a quarter of a million a year, plus larger sums from high-net worth individuals. It won't pay for a club that's buying over-priced players, but it'll help keep a club going on top of TV and gate money etc. And Luton did OK on a small budget - remember when we used to "cut our cloth"?

Depends if we want to still exist or not. It definitely can be done - I've seen it work one way or another at at least ten clubs.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Royal_jimmy » 28 Jun 2023 08:35

Madejski can't afford to buy the club outright, but perhaps him and a group of local investors could acquire a majority stake in the club, maybe with fans buying a stake as well. Then the club can be run self-sufficiently, even if season tickets have to go up to pay for it.

Would be great to see the club in local ownership whilst we're in the lower leagues, then sell in a few years when we're in a better place as a football club.

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by Royal_jimmy » 28 Jun 2023 08:38

Dirk Gently Ideally you want a small number of high net worth individuals plus the majority of supporters contributing a smaller amount.

There's the buying and then the running.

Buying a club doesn't necessarily mean spending money - often an owner is glad to get shot of a club that's expensive to run, but it all depends if they're prepared to write-off soft debt. Many are, just to get shot.

Then there's running the club - one I'm involved with has supporters contributing a set amount per month (usually £10, £20 or £30). Two thousand supporters giving a tenner a month is a quarter of a million a year, plus larger sums from high-net worth individuals. It won't pay for a club that's buying over-priced players, but it'll help keep a club going on top of TV and gate money etc. And Luton did OK on a small budget - remember when we used to "cut our cloth"?

Depends if we want to still exist or not. It definitely can be done - I've seen it work one way or another at at least ten clubs.


Yeah exactly this.

We need to use this opportunity to have a fundamental reset in how the clubs been run. We've spent beyond our means since 2013/14 after being run sensibly for a 20 years previously.

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