Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by ILoveMoonPig » 14 Aug 2023 09:47

I think, for a player in the latter stages of their career, playing a high-tempo, high-pressing passing game is going to be tough, he probably can't start 2 games a week, every week.

That said, he can definitely still perform. I'd like to see him played on his own up front, used interchangeably with Ehib, like-for-like, with Azeez/Knibbs playing just behind.

I would like him to transition into a coaching role at the club, he has played at the highest levels, I think he can offer the players a lot.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by NathStPaul » 14 Aug 2023 09:49

He doesn't rank anywhere near the list.

HTH.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by JedMaxwell » 14 Aug 2023 10:08

Insane to suggest he could be our worst ever signing.

I didn't even want to engage with this discussion, but as others have said he doesn't suit the pressing style. I do think he can link up effectively on the floor, somewhat like Dave Kitson, however he's being really targeted by the opposition as we saw on Saturday at Vale Park. If he'd scored the penalty I think it would've been entirely different, but that's life.

Also, his influence around the squad is repeatedly brought up as a huge positive. That's something we need to focus on when he is not playing the best, and we need to get behind him like the rest of the team.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by Schards#2 » 14 Aug 2023 10:23

He would not be in the top 1,000

You've listened to too much Dellor

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by Stranded » 14 Aug 2023 10:53

Carroll is fine, problem as others say is either due to the lack of confidence or football intelligence we've had in the side, his presence lends itself to lump it up and hope.

In L1, he is going to get very close attention, so his presence should actually allow us to play quickly into half-gaps that will appear and look for him from pull backs and crosses rather than just hitting him from distance.

Major concern is that with him as a focal point, in 2023, we've managed a whopping 17 goals from 23 games, so we have to find a way to attack better either with or without him.


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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by Gunny Fishcake » 14 Aug 2023 11:10

Snowflake Royal He shouldn't be anywhere near such a conversation.


+1 Desperate post

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by Ascotexgunner » 14 Aug 2023 21:19

Not even in the conversation.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by edinburghroyal » 15 Aug 2023 07:26

Just like Pogrebnyak, Carroll is an excellent player, which the management does not know how to use!

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by Snowflake Royal » 15 Aug 2023 08:26

edinburghroyal Just like Pogrebnyak, Carroll is an excellent player, which the management does not know how to use!

Now there's a player who is in the conversation.

The signing that arguably started our decline.


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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by Stranded » 15 Aug 2023 09:37

Snowflake Royal
edinburghroyal Just like Pogrebnyak, Carroll is an excellent player, which the management does not know how to use!

Now there's a player who is in the conversation.

The signing that arguably started our decline.


In terms of talent, he isn't. In terms of cost to the club, he most certainly is.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by Snowflake Royal » 15 Aug 2023 10:27

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edinburghroyal Just like Pogrebnyak, Carroll is an excellent player, which the management does not know how to use!

Now there's a player who is in the conversation.

The signing that arguably started our decline.


In terms of talent, he isn't. In terms of cost to the club, he most certainly is.

Signings is surely all about value added vs cost, not really about ability. Otherwise it would be 'worst players'.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by When Hicks went up... » 18 Aug 2023 19:10

Haven't posted for a decade but had to log in to reply to this one due to the nonsense.

We signed 7 players in ONE DAY, 5 of which were worse signings than Carroll.

HTH.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by From Despair To Where? » 18 Aug 2023 19:38

When Hicks went up... Haven't posted for a decade but had to log in to reply to this one due to the nonsense.

We signed 7 players in ONE DAY, 5 of which were worse signings than Carroll.

HTH.


McIntyre and ?

I was thinking Howie but he got dropped for Van Der Kwaak.


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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by karbota » 18 Aug 2023 19:42

Bullshit the best signing in the last two years, once fully fit the Sparks will fly.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by karbota » 18 Aug 2023 19:57

Another reason why we should avoid foreign players, managers, and owners.

Manchester City-linked West Ham midfielder Lucas Paqueta is reportedly being ‘investigated’ by the Football Association for ‘potential betting breaches’.

It was reported on Friday morning that City’s pursuit of the Brazilian international is ’90 per cent off’.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by Ascotexgunner » 18 Aug 2023 20:00

Goalkeeping is an easy one. Virginia was utter sh*te.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by karbota » 18 Aug 2023 20:01

From Despair To Where?
When Hicks went up... Haven't posted for a decade but had to log in to reply to this one due to the nonsense.

We signed 7 players in ONE DAY, 5 of which were worse signings than Carroll.

HTH.


McIntyre and ?

I was thinking Howie but he got dropped for Van Der Kwaak.


McIntyre will be back in the lineup for the next game, a class above this division.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by karbota » 18 Aug 2023 21:34

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From Despair To Where?
When Hicks went up... Haven't posted for a decade but had to log in to reply to this one due to the nonsense.

We signed 7 players in ONE DAY, 5 of which were worse signings than Carroll.

HTH.


McIntyre and ?

I was thinking Howie but he got dropped for Van Der Kwaak.


McIntyre will be back in the lineup for the next game, a class above this division.


That young Vickers reminds me of the great MM (The Meeks) at his best if he can cut in and provide the killer cross Andy Carroll will be at 30 plus this season.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Aug 2023 23:02

From Despair To Where?
When Hicks went up... Haven't posted for a decade but had to log in to reply to this one due to the nonsense.

We signed 7 players in ONE DAY, 5 of which were worse signings than Carroll.

HTH.


McIntyre and ?

I was thinking Howie but he got dropped for Van Der Kwaak.

I always thought Howie did ok, although he definitely declined and we did upgrade. I remember Gray being not awful, but that may be confusion from the old Champ Man games, which had a habit of making our worst players world beaters. Holsgrove was my star player for some reason.

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Re: Where does Carroll rank in worst ever signings?

by When Hicks went up... » 19 Aug 2023 04:33

From Despair To Where?
When Hicks went up... Haven't posted for a decade but had to log in to reply to this one due to the nonsense.

We signed 7 players in ONE DAY, 5 of which were worse signings than Carroll.

HTH.


McIntyre and ?

I was thinking Howie but he got dropped for Van Der Kwaak.


Yeh Howie was the other but I could have said 6. Not the best keeper but did a job for us for a few years.

And of course Brayson is the correct answer to who is our worst ever signing.

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