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Re: Selles In

by Greatwesternline » 22 Feb 2024 09:45

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IMO we've definitely lost him if Dai doesn't sell, Desperately hope that a sale goes through, we can make him a decent offer and he decides it's better to stick with the devil he knows (maybe his brother's experiences will influence that). I think Selles staying as manager would also be critical, after all the faith he has displayed in Femi, which seems to have created a really strong bond between them.

We've lost the club if Dai doesn't sell.

His first touch is still pretty iffy. He's certainly not walking into a Championshio team. But on a free as a cheap punt on reasonable wages, he's worth a punt at £8k - £10k.

GWL is out of his mind thinking he'd get £25k in the Championship or £15k in L1.


Keep seeing him going on a free but we’d get compensation wouldn’t we? Admittedly not loads but not a free


Seems comparable. was a while ago now though.
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Aaron Creswell had made 70 or so league appearances for Tranmere Rovers when, aged 21, he rejected a new long term contract offer. He signed for the Championship club Ipswich Town on a three year contract.
The PFCC decided that Ipswich Town should pay Tranmere Rovers an initial compensation fee of £240,000.
An additional £45,000 was ordered in respect of the player making 15, 30, 45 and 60 appearances for Ipswich Town.
An additional £100,000 was ordered should Ipswich Town achieve promotion to the Premier League in the next 3 seasons.
Tranmere Rovers are to receive 20% of any profit made by Ipswich Town in selling the player to another club at any point in the future.

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Re: Selles In

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Feb 2024 11:24

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IMO we've definitely lost him if Dai doesn't sell, Desperately hope that a sale goes through, we can make him a decent offer and he decides it's better to stick with the devil he knows (maybe his brother's experiences will influence that). I think Selles staying as manager would also be critical, after all the faith he has displayed in Femi, which seems to have created a really strong bond between them.

We've lost the club if Dai doesn't sell.

His first touch is still pretty iffy. He's certainly not walking into a Championshio team. But on a free as a cheap punt on reasonable wages, he's worth a punt at £8k - £10k.

GWL is out of his mind thinking he'd get £25k in the Championship or £15k in L1.


It was a rhetorical flourish. Jeez. Replace the numbers with 5k in League 1 and 15k in Championship and its the same point. What matters is the delta between the two numbers, not the numbers themselves. Obviously.

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Re: Selles In

by tidus_mi2 » 22 Feb 2024 12:33

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His first touch is still pretty iffy. He's certainly not walking into a Championshio team. But on a free as a cheap punt on reasonable wages, he's worth a punt at £8k - £10k.

GWL is out of his mind thinking he'd get £25k in the Championship or £15k in L1.


Keep seeing him going on a free but we’d get compensation wouldn’t we? Admittedly not loads but not a free


Seems comparable. was a while ago now though.
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Aaron Creswell had made 70 or so league appearances for Tranmere Rovers when, aged 21, he rejected a new long term contract offer. He signed for the Championship club Ipswich Town on a three year contract.
The PFCC decided that Ipswich Town should pay Tranmere Rovers an initial compensation fee of £240,000.
An additional £45,000 was ordered in respect of the player making 15, 30, 45 and 60 appearances for Ipswich Town.
An additional £100,000 was ordered should Ipswich Town achieve promotion to the Premier League in the next 3 seasons.
Tranmere Rovers are to receive 20% of any profit made by Ipswich Town in selling the player to another club at any point in the future.

Well, if that's a precedent, it's no surprise we held out rather than letting him be sold for a pittance in January.

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Re: Selles In

by St Pauli » 23 Feb 2024 23:46

Interesting debate, really should be explored more…

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Re: Selles In

by Royalwaster » 04 Mar 2024 21:36

Not sure Chris Wilder would have been the messiah after all - doing a pretty crap job at Sheffield, albeit with very limited resources. But their squad is probably better than Luton's, so there's really no excuses. Burnley at least look good while losing. Sheffield just look terrible.


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Re: Selles In

by Snowflake Royal » 04 Mar 2024 22:09

Royalwaster Not sure Chris Wilder would have been the messiah after all - doing a pretty crap job at Sheffield, albeit with very limited resources. But their squad is probably better than Luton's, so there's really no excuses. Burnley at least look good while losing. Sheffield just look terrible.

The gulf to compete in the PL is g
Humungous.

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Re: Selles In

by SouthDownsRoyal » 05 Mar 2024 08:49

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Royalwaster Not sure Chris Wilder would have been the messiah after all - doing a pretty crap job at Sheffield, albeit with very limited resources. But their squad is probably better than Luton's, so there's really no excuses. Burnley at least look good while losing. Sheffield just look terrible.

The gulf to compete in the PL is g
Humungous.


Exactly. Playing Arsenal is a bit different to Carlisle

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by WestYorksRoyal » 05 Mar 2024 08:57

Obviously Arsenal are a different proposition, but there was no fight, no belief, no coherent system. We'd have done a better job against them in the FA Cup. It's hard, but there is no justification being 5-0 down at home at HT.

Wilder looks like a broken man. Our situation would have broken him but Selles is made of sterner stuff.

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Re: Selles In

by Silver Fox » 05 Mar 2024 09:08

Obviously it's harder playing Arsenal than it is Carlisle but he just hasn't got the basics right and him waiting for the Blades job has resulted in us dodging a bullet


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Re: Selles In

by Stranded » 05 Mar 2024 09:24

Royalwaster Not sure Chris Wilder would have been the messiah after all - doing a pretty crap job at Sheffield, albeit with very limited resources. But their squad is probably better than Luton's, so there's really no excuses. Burnley at least look good while losing. Sheffield just look terrible.


I don't think it is - Luton have gone out and smartly improved their squad with players that fit their style of play - Sheffield lost two of their key players and spent a lot of money on not very good players.

Isn't there also ongoing ownership issues there?

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Re: Selles In

by URZZZZ » 05 Mar 2024 10:29

WestYorksRoyal Obviously Arsenal are a different proposition, but there was no fight, no belief, no coherent system. We'd have done a better job against them in the FA Cup. It's hard, but there is no justification being 5-0 down at home at HT.

Wilder looks like a broken man. Our situation would have broken him but Selles is made of sterner stuff.


Apart from a brief 3/4 month resurgence at Boro, Wilder has been a serial loser for about 4 years straight now. Appreciate that a fair amount of that was at a poor Sheffield side but conceding 5 goals in 4 successive home games is unacceptable at any level. Wasn’t that fussed he didn’t end up here last summer

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Re: Selles In

by Mid Sussex Royal » 05 Mar 2024 11:04

Agree with much of the above. Yes, Arsenal are scoring for fun atm but I also saw their games on Sky against Villa and Brighton in the last month and they just gave up when going behind, neither side was in particularly good form either at the time.

At least before Christmas Sheffield were competitive.

Really don't think Wilder would have had the stomach for it here....

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Re: Selles In

by JedMaxwell » 05 Mar 2024 11:07

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Really don't think Wilder would have had the stomach for it here....


I think he probably would have walked quite early on. I doubt he's desperate for cash and wouldn't want the stress. Who knows where that would have left us.

I think one of Ruben's main assets is his hunger and resilience, which has rubbed off onto the team.


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Re: Selles In

by MartinRdg » 05 Mar 2024 17:13

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Really don't think Wilder would have had the stomach for it here....


I think he probably would have walked quite early on. I doubt he's desperate for cash and wouldn't want the stress. Who knows where that would have left us.

I think one of Ruben's main assets is his hunger and resilience, which has rubbed off onto the team.


Ruben also probably realised that if he failed and was sacked/walked away from us then his chances of another management role elsewhere were rather slim to non-existent.

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Re: Selles In

by Hound » 05 Mar 2024 17:18

Having someone desperate to prove himself has worked for us in our circumstances (assuming we stay up). He’s grown as a manager considerably

If we’d had a top 3 squad and Dai supporting the team rather than slowly choking it to death then Wilder may have been the right choice. But yeah he’d have walked ages ago if he’d been in Selles shoes

Sheff utd should be banned from being promoted to the PL for 3 years after stinking it out so much this year. Absolutely pointless

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Re: Selles In

by St Pauli » 09 Mar 2024 17:04

Selles shouldn’t be blamed for this- it’s completely on the players.

When we equalised I expected them to pull it out of the net and run back for the restart given the importance of a win and the effort show by fans at Carlisle and before.

When they didn’t it suggested to me that they either didn’t understand the significance (thick) or just CBA (lazy).

They seem to think we’re out of trouble. They should have paid a bit more attention in their Btech maths courses. Their future and that of the club is still very much in the balance.

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Re: Selles In

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Mar 2024 17:13

Maybe Selles told them to calm down and ease off.

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by St Pauli » 09 Mar 2024 17:32

Snowflake Royal Maybe Selles told them to calm down and ease off.

At 1:1?

Unlikely

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Re: Selles In

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Mar 2024 17:34

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Snowflake Royal Maybe Selles told them to calm down and ease off.

At 1:1?

Unlikely

Calm down lads, ease off, plenty of time left yet, don't let them straight back in it with a mistake, that G chap was exposing us down their right on the break until he went off.

Seems plausible.

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Re: Selles In

by morganb » 22 Mar 2024 12:31

Interview just appeared on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJrc1s_hzSc

Subjects covered:

00:00 Introduction and Well-being
00:38 Atmosphere within the Club
02:21 Changes in Performance
04:04 Late Joining and Recruitment Challenges
05:29 Attraction to the Football Club
07:04 Negotiations and Promises
08:07 Communication with the Owner
08:43 Involvement in Recruitment
09:51 Playing Style and Philosophy
10:34 Influence of Ralph Hasenhüttl
11:13 Role at Southampton and Departure
12:54 Managing Challenges and Chaos
15:24 Impact on Players' Mental Health
16:09 Dealing with Media Attention
18:21 Motivating the Team
20:53 Role as Coach and Manager
21:18 Updates on the Training Ground
22:06 Communication with the Club
23:36 Relationship with the Fans
25:33 Protests and Fan Reactions
27:04 Future as Reading Manager
28:07 Commitment to the Club
29:05 Appreciation and Conclusion

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