I agree with Robbie Savage

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by Stranded » 08 Sep 2023 14:00

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And it's reflected in the support. It's been positive. Attendances have been decent. 1000 at both Exeter and Cambridge. Both games the fans stayed and clapped the players off the pitch after narrow defeats.


Based on our start, I don’t think he is but no idea how effective we’ll be with Smith up top. It could all be very different.


It may well do - in terms of shots per game we are 7th in the table (13.7 pg) at the moment and shots on target per game we lie 13th (4 pg) - doesn't offer a clue on quality of those shots admittedly - but with a more experienced striker, or if Ballard is as good as is hoped, we would likely have had a few more goals and, in turn, points on the board.

Interestingly* we are 7th for shots from inside the 6 yard box and 10th for shots in the box and also from outside.

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by CountryRoyal » 08 Sep 2023 14:11

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Twats on twitter (ToT for future use, you're welcome) seem to really hate this and it makes me laugh.

Please tell me we can find a word starting with 'i' for the middle of that
Twats In Twitter ?


Inciting?


I Just prefer swapping the i for an a.

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by WestYorksRoyal » 08 Sep 2023 14:19

We all love xG stats. By their measure we are 12th best at creating chances at 6.65 xG, but we have only scored 3. Only 3 teams are underperforming more than us. We also create a high proportion of our chances from open play, which I also view as encouraging.

At the other end, we're 4th in xA with 5.23, and have conceded 5.

So overall, we're solid defensively, create chances but have not been converting. Bring in Ballard and Smith and hopefully that changes. There is reason to think we'll push up the table, compared with last year where we simply didn't create chances from open play.

But I would still be surprised if we make top 6 this season.

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by Sutekh » 08 Sep 2023 16:05

WestYorksRoyal We all love xG stats. By their measure we are 12th best at creating chances at 6.65 xG, but we have only scored 3. Only 3 teams are underperforming more than us. We also create a high proportion of our chances from open play, which I also view as encouraging.

At the other end, we're 4th in xA with 5.23, and have conceded 5.

So overall, we're solid defensively, create chances but have not been converting. Bring in Ballard and Smith and hopefully that changes. There is reason to think we'll push up the table, compared with last year where we simply didn't create chances from open play.

But I would still be surprised if we make top 6 this season.


A 20% success rate on penalties is another stat that will hopefully improve too.

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by WestYorksRoyal » 08 Sep 2023 16:16

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WestYorksRoyal We all love xG stats. By their measure we are 12th best at creating chances at 6.65 xG, but we have only scored 3. Only 3 teams are underperforming more than us. We also create a high proportion of our chances from open play, which I also view as encouraging.

At the other end, we're 4th in xA with 5.23, and have conceded 5.

So overall, we're solid defensively, create chances but have not been converting. Bring in Ballard and Smith and hopefully that changes. There is reason to think we'll push up the table, compared with last year where we simply didn't create chances from open play.

But I would still be surprised if we make top 6 this season.


A 20% success rate on penalties is another stat that will hopefully improve too.

A poor penalty record seems to have been a theme of Reading through the ages, even when we were good. Kitson is the only player I remember going back to 2000 or so who I always trusted to bury them. I remember in Stam's first season we missed a hatful but somehow turned in the rebound on 90% of them.


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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by Sutekh » 08 Sep 2023 16:22

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WestYorksRoyal We all love xG stats. By their measure we are 12th best at creating chances at 6.65 xG, but we have only scored 3. Only 3 teams are underperforming more than us. We also create a high proportion of our chances from open play, which I also view as encouraging.

At the other end, we're 4th in xA with 5.23, and have conceded 5.

So overall, we're solid defensively, create chances but have not been converting. Bring in Ballard and Smith and hopefully that changes. There is reason to think we'll push up the table, compared with last year where we simply didn't create chances from open play.

But I would still be surprised if we make top 6 this season.


A 20% success rate on penalties is another stat that will hopefully improve too.

A poor penalty record seems to have been a theme of Reading through the ages, even when we were good. Kitson is the only player I remember going back to 2000 or so who I always trusted to bury them. I remember in Stam's first season we missed a hatful but somehow turned in the rebound on 90% of them.


Quite true, one thing Garath McCleary was rather good at...

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 08 Sep 2023 17:30

I think we are only another goalscorer away from being a top half side anyway, very reliant on Kelvin E but if Smith can get himself back to fitness and scoring at even the same rate as last season, that will win us a number of points over the course of the season.

Like Savage Snr says, we aren't exactly getting battered in games, it's fine margins really coupled together with some underwhelming performances. I'd rather get edged out playing poorly, than get edged out/battered playing well. Plenty of room for improvement and we've got another 40 games to go, including a transfer window. Nothing to be too down on just yet.

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by skipper » 08 Sep 2023 21:58

Anyone else ditched Twitter / X?

I keep getting right wing mouthpieces being promoted in my time line, despite not following them.

Whole thing is just crap now. Got rid of the app completely.

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by From Despair To Where? » 08 Sep 2023 22:29

I go on Twitter maybe once a week and spend no more than 5 minutes on it


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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Sep 2023 23:03

skipper Anyone else ditched Twitter / X?

I keep getting right wing mouthpieces being promoted in my time line, despite not following them.

Whole thing is just crap now. Got rid of the app completely.

Never joined, but certainly would have left by now if I did

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by Hound » 09 Sep 2023 08:30

skipper Anyone else ditched Twitter / X?

I keep getting right wing mouthpieces being promoted in my time line, despite not following them.

Whole thing is just crap now. Got rid of the app completely.


It’s a mess, borderline unusable

Still sadly probably the quickest way to get info though

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by SpaghettiHoop » 09 Sep 2023 09:32

skipper Anyone else ditched Twitter / X?

I keep getting right wing mouthpieces being promoted in my time line, despite not following them.

Whole thing is just crap now. Got rid of the app completely.

What's the best alternative?

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by From Despair To Where? » 09 Sep 2023 10:05

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skipper Anyone else ditched Twitter / X?

I keep getting right wing mouthpieces being promoted in my time line, despite not following them.

Whole thing is just crap now. Got rid of the app completely.


It’s a mess, borderline unusable

Still sadly probably the quickest way to get a hot take from a moron


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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by Franchise FC » 09 Sep 2023 11:38

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skipper Anyone else ditched Twitter / X?

I keep getting right wing mouthpieces being promoted in my time line, despite not following them.

Whole thing is just crap now. Got rid of the app completely.


It’s a mess, borderline unusable

Still sadly probably the quickest way to get a hot take from a moron


c4y

Absolutely, there's nothing better than getting completely unsubstantiated nonsense from a keyboard warrior

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by genome » 09 Sep 2023 13:40

skipper Anyone else ditched Twitter / X?

I keep getting right wing mouthpieces being promoted in my time line, despite not following them.

Whole thing is just crap now. Got rid of the app completely.


It's only useable if you use browser plugins that get rid of all the nonsense and only show you your "Following" tab

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by Clyde1998 » 09 Sep 2023 13:51

skipper Anyone else ditched Twitter / X?

I keep getting right wing mouthpieces being promoted in my time line, despite not following them.

Whole thing is just crap now. Got rid of the app completely.

I only really use it to find specific things now (ie. team news), especially now TweetDeck (or whatever it's called now) is behind a paywall. It's increasingly unusable and that's without thinking about the content/opinions on there. That said, I really stopped using Twitter on a regular basis a number of years ago.

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by Ascotexgunner » 09 Sep 2023 17:24

skipper Anyone else ditched Twitter / X?

I keep getting right wing mouthpieces being promoted in my time line, despite not following them.

Whole thing is just crap now. Got rid of the app completely.


Never had an account or inclination to use it. It's the pox of society, like Instagram and especially TikTok.

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by SCIAG » 10 Sep 2023 08:34

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WestYorksRoyal We all love xG stats. By their measure we are 12th best at creating chances at 6.65 xG, but we have only scored 3. Only 3 teams are underperforming more than us. We also create a high proportion of our chances from open play, which I also view as encouraging.

At the other end, we're 4th in xA with 5.23, and have conceded 5.

So overall, we're solid defensively, create chances but have not been converting. Bring in Ballard and Smith and hopefully that changes. There is reason to think we'll push up the table, compared with last year where we simply didn't create chances from open play.

But I would still be surprised if we make top 6 this season.


A 20% success rate on penalties is another stat that will hopefully improve too.

A poor penalty record seems to have been a theme of Reading through the ages, even when we were good. Kitson is the only player I remember going back to 2000 or so who I always trusted to bury them. I remember in Stam's first season we missed a hatful but somehow turned in the rebound on 90% of them.

Even Kitson managed to miss a couple, although that’s basically inevitable.

I think Le Fondre deserves to be considered on that level. Had a lot of faith in Gylfi and Harte too, but not sure they took very many.

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by windermereROYAL » 10 Sep 2023 10:08

Well after yesterday we sit one place and three points outside the drop zone and with two difficult games coming up it`s not inconceivable
to think we will be entrenched there by the end of the month, still early days obviously but it won`t stop the bed wetters here or on twatter going into a panic frenzy.
Of course Robbie is right, our main aim this season is to maintain our current status, top half will be a tremendous achievement.

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Re: I agree with Robbie Savage

by South Coast Royal » 10 Sep 2023 10:16

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A 20% success rate on penalties is another stat that will hopefully improve too.

A poor penalty record seems to have been a theme of Reading through the ages, even when we were good. Kitson is the only player I remember going back to 2000 or so who I always trusted to bury them. I remember in Stam's first season we missed a hatful but somehow turned in the rebound on 90% of them.

Even Kitson managed to miss a couple, although that’s basically inevitable.

I think Le Fondre deserves to be considered on that level. Had a lot of faith in Gylfi and Harte too, but not sure they took very many.


I don't remember Jimmy Quinn missing many.

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