AFCON 2024

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AFCON 2024

by Mid Sussex Royal » 20 Dec 2023 14:58

Yiadom, Camara & Elliott called up to provisional squads, I believe final squads have to be confirmed by 2nd Jan.

Is there anyone else who could be called up?

Yiadom obvs biggest miss atm but Jan is quite light on league games with Stevenage off

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Re: AFCON 2024

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 20 Dec 2023 15:17

Mbengue, in theory, could be called up, although I can't see him making Senegal's final squad.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by Sutekh » 20 Dec 2023 15:28

Don’t you need three players out to be able to postpone games? Reading could give themselves a complete rest in January.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by Snowflake Royal » 20 Dec 2023 17:17

Normally you wouldn’t want to push games into a massive bunch in Feb/March, but more we have later when we might actually have a half competent owner and manager, the better.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by Hound » 20 Dec 2023 17:20

Reckon Yiadom might get cut off the final list


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Re: AFCON 2024

by WestYorksRoyal » 20 Dec 2023 18:32

Snowflake Royal Normally you wouldn’t want to push games into a massive bunch in Feb/March, but more we have later when we might actually have a half competent owner and manager, the better.

Or there will be some sales in January and our squad is weaker afterwards.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by Sutekh » 20 Dec 2023 18:54

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Snowflake Royal Normally you wouldn’t want to push games into a massive bunch in Feb/March, but more we have later when we might actually have a half competent owner and manager, the better.

Or there will be some sales in January and our squad is weaker afterwards.


Wish we could sell the owner.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by WestYorksRoyal » 20 Dec 2023 19:10

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Snowflake Royal Normally you wouldn’t want to push games into a massive bunch in Feb/March, but more we have later when we might actually have a half competent owner and manager, the better.

Or there will be some sales in January and our squad is weaker afterwards.


Wish we could sell the owner.

Even if we could, who would buy him?

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Re: AFCON 2024

by Snowflake Royal » 20 Dec 2023 21:11

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Snowflake Royal Normally you wouldn’t want to push games into a massive bunch in Feb/March, but more we have later when we might actually have a half competent owner and manager, the better.

Or there will be some sales in January and our squad is weaker afterwards.

Can't see it being much weaker.

The players likely to go for any money or at the higher end of the wage bill are either in positions we have cover or aren't playing much.

Vickers - barely playing
Holmes - loads of CBs
Bindon - loads of CBs
Abbey - loads of CBs

Is anyone going to pay much for Smith? Wing? Button? Not likely for a Championship club and L1 clubs can't afford to.


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Re: AFCON 2024

by Stranded » 20 Dec 2023 21:36

Sutekh Don’t you need three players out to be able to postpone games? Reading could give themselves a complete rest in January.


Hmm interesting point, am guessing there is zero president for L1 side losing 3 players to a mid-season tournament.

In theory, we could not play a League game after Exeter until the match at Oxford.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by Mid Sussex Royal » 21 Dec 2023 10:10

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Sutekh Don’t you need three players out to be able to postpone games? Reading could give themselves a complete rest in January.


Hmm interesting point, am guessing there is zero president for L1 side losing 3 players to a mid-season tournament.

In theory, we could not play a League game after Exeter until the match at Oxford.


I think it may just be tough luck, can't remember any championship games called off due to Afcon 2 years ago...

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Re: AFCON 2024

by Stranded » 21 Dec 2023 10:22

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Sutekh Don’t you need three players out to be able to postpone games? Reading could give themselves a complete rest in January.


Hmm interesting point, am guessing there is zero president for L1 side losing 3 players to a mid-season tournament.

In theory, we could not play a League game after Exeter until the match at Oxford.


I think it may just be tough luck, can't remember any championship games called off due to Afcon 2 years ago...


Yeah but did any single club have 3 African players called up?

Probably a moot point and imagine we would carry on regardless but interested* in what the rule is. Ususally when you have to release players then you are allowed to cancel in the EFL but naturally whilst we would have to release the players, it is probably not worth postponing 5 games - esp as we already have Derby (H) and Stevenage (a) to still fit in - esp as Eliott and Camara are not yet key components of the first team.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by Orion1871 » 28 Dec 2023 20:43

Elliott called up to the full Cameroon squad.


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Re: AFCON 2024

by Stranded » 29 Dec 2023 07:59

Orion1871 Elliott called up to the full Cameroon squad.


Fair play, may well do him good to go away for a bit.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by Hound » 29 Dec 2023 09:09

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Orion1871 Elliott called up to the full Cameroon squad.


Fair play, may well do him good to go away for a bit.


Yeah agree, won’t be a huge loss currently for us but the experience etc may well help him

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Re: AFCON 2024

by tmesis » 29 Dec 2023 11:01

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Snowflake Royal Normally you wouldn’t want to push games into a massive bunch in Feb/March, but more we have later when we might actually have a half competent owner and manager, the better.

Or there will be some sales in January and our squad is weaker afterwards.

Can't see it being much weaker.

The players likely to go for any money or at the higher end of the wage bill are either in positions we have cover or aren't playing much.

Vickers - barely playing
Holmes - loads of CBs
Bindon - loads of CBs
Abbey - loads of CBs

Is anyone going to pay much for Smith? Wing? Button? Not likely for a Championship club and L1 clubs can't afford to.

Any players who are sold are likely to be our better players. Azeez and Ehibhatiomhan would be two obvious ones.

With our financial position, and an uninterested owner, a few clubs might test the water with bids that an owner who cared would reject, but Dai might accept for the quick cash.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by karbota » 29 Dec 2023 11:11

Here we go again yet another downside of too many foreign players in the squad. And dont get me started on foreign managers and foreign owners.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by Snowflake Royal » 29 Dec 2023 11:22

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WestYorksRoyal Or there will be some sales in January and our squad is weaker afterwards.

Can't see it being much weaker.

The players likely to go for any money or at the higher end of the wage bill are either in positions we have cover or aren't playing much.

Vickers - barely playing
Holmes - loads of CBs
Bindon - loads of CBs
Abbey - loads of CBs

Is anyone going to pay much for Smith? Wing? Button? Not likely for a Championship club and L1 clubs can't afford to.

Any players who are sold are likely to be our better players. Azeez and Ehibhatiomhan would be two obvious ones.

With our financial position, and an uninterested owner, a few clubs might test the water with bids that an owner who cared would reject, but Dai might accept for the quick cash.

Firstly, anyone who doesn't have a release fee triggered would need Dai to sign off on a sale. He's not interested. And he turns down sales for our better players out of pride when he is interested.

Even if that isn't an obstacle:

Our better players are Azeez, Wing, Smith, Button and Abbey. Abbey we can afford to sell as we're well stocked at CB.

Wing has been around long enough he's not going to be attracting the sort of interest that would persuade us to sell. Same as Button.

What Championship club is going to spend seven figures on Smith? Or Azeez? Why would we sell them cheap?

Ehibhatiomhan isn't going to get any interest bar Championship Academies. He's barely playing. Which means he's not exactly an immediate loss to the first team either.

I'll be astonished if we lose anyone crucial to the first team in the transfer window.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by tmesis » 29 Dec 2023 12:35

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The players likely to go for any money or at the higher end of the wage bill are either in positions we have cover or aren't playing much.

Vickers - barely playing
Holmes - loads of CBs
Bindon - loads of CBs
Abbey - loads of CBs

Is anyone going to pay much for Smith? Wing? Button? Not likely for a Championship club and L1 clubs can't afford to.

Any players who are sold are likely to be our better players. Azeez and Ehibhatiomhan would be two obvious ones.

With our financial position, and an uninterested owner, a few clubs might test the water with bids that an owner who cared would reject, but Dai might accept for the quick cash.

Firstly, anyone who doesn't have a release fee triggered would need Dai to sign off on a sale. He's not interested. And he turns down sales for our better players out of pride when he is interested.

Even if that isn't an obstacle:

Our better players are Azeez, Wing, Smith, Button and Abbey. Abbey we can afford to sell as we're well stocked at CB.

Wing has been around long enough he's not going to be attracting the sort of interest that would persuade us to sell. Same as Button.

What Championship club is going to spend seven figures on Smith? Or Azeez? Why would we sell them cheap?

Ehibhatiomhan isn't going to get any interest bar Championship Academies. He's barely playing. Which means he's not exactly an immediate loss to the first team either.

I'll be astonished if we lose anyone crucial to the first team in the transfer window.

Dai turned down sales previously because he presumably still thought getting to the premier league was an option. That doesn't seem to be the case any more, so he just wants rid.

Clubs higher up might see us as being in the same boat Cambridge were when we got Kitson for a steal, and offer prices lower than would normally be accepted. If Dai no longer cares, and just wants cash in, he's more likely to accept a low deal. They wouldn't need to be offering seven figure prices.

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Re: AFCON 2024

by Snowflake Royal » 29 Dec 2023 13:01

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tmesis Any players who are sold are likely to be our better players. Azeez and Ehibhatiomhan would be two obvious ones.

With our financial position, and an uninterested owner, a few clubs might test the water with bids that an owner who cared would reject, but Dai might accept for the quick cash.

Firstly, anyone who doesn't have a release fee triggered would need Dai to sign off on a sale. He's not interested. And he turns down sales for our better players out of pride when he is interested.

Even if that isn't an obstacle:

Our better players are Azeez, Wing, Smith, Button and Abbey. Abbey we can afford to sell as we're well stocked at CB.

Wing has been around long enough he's not going to be attracting the sort of interest that would persuade us to sell. Same as Button.

What Championship club is going to spend seven figures on Smith? Or Azeez? Why would we sell them cheap?

Ehibhatiomhan isn't going to get any interest bar Championship Academies. He's barely playing. Which means he's not exactly an immediate loss to the first team either.

I'll be astonished if we lose anyone crucial to the first team in the transfer window.

Dai turned down sales previously because he presumably still thought getting to the premier league was an option. That doesn't seem to be the case any more, so he just wants rid.

Clubs higher up might see us as being in the same boat Cambridge were when we got Kitson for a steal, and offer prices lower than would normally be accepted. If Dai no longer cares, and just wants cash in, he's more likely to accept a low deal. They wouldn't need to be offering seven figure prices.

If he just wanted rid, he'd have sold us already.

He didn't refuse to sell Loader for Premier League ambitions.

Someone would still have to get hold of him to agree a sale. And he's awol.

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