Did the protest do what it intended?

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Skin » 15 Jan 2024 11:10

Jim White has just gone up in my estimations - very clear that this needs all the coverage it can get but as Simon Jordan pointed out the EFL have no currency with Dai Young and legally cannot intervene so we're on our own in that respect. Hopefully all this coverage will at least wake up a few more potential buyers, meanwhile the clubs value continues to drop, so could help rather than hinder a sale.

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by tidus_mi2 » 15 Jan 2024 11:11

Due to the integrity of the competition I don't think they can just award Port Vale the points as some have suggested, imagine if that decision sends someone down? I expect it will be re-arranged, no idea what sort of punishment we'll get though.

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by The Royal Forester » 15 Jan 2024 11:12

Judging by the posts on here, it seems as though the protest did get a lot of awareness out there than previous protests have done.

One question I have, can the EFL say that at the end of this season the club is expelled from the League, unless the club is sold to another owner? Hopefully they can, But would Dai play ball then and sell up, or more likely liquidate the club anyway. But, of course he may be planning to do that already.

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Stranded » 15 Jan 2024 11:13

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Dirk Gently The FA will no doubt impose a fine for "failure to control supporters", and the FL will no doubt impose a suspended points deduction - this is based on precedent of the Blackpool vs Huddersfield abandonment in May 2015.

If the FL *don't* do these they know they're opening the doors for more and more pitch invasions and abandonments, as well as leaving themselves open to criticism from clubs who've had these punishments before.

Was the Blackpool v Huddersfield match re-played or points given to Huddersfield ?


It was the very last match of the season and the result didn't have any effect on the league label, so they fudged it and let the results stand. I doubt they'll do that here as it's only Jan.


In the circumstance, I hope they ask for the game to be replayed - EFL love to stay how they want league positions to be earnt on the pitch, so handing a result to Vale would go against this. So it'll probably happen.

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Dirk Gently » 15 Jan 2024 11:48

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It was the very last match of the season and the result didn't have any effect on the league label, so they fudged it and let the results stand. I doubt they'll do that here as it's only Jan.


In the circumstance, I hope they ask for the game to be replayed - EFL love to stay how they want league positions to be earnt on the pitch, so handing a result to Vale would go against this. So it'll probably happen.


I would be amazed if they didn't replay this.


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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Forbury Lion » 15 Jan 2024 11:52

Stranded In the circumstance, I hope they ask for the game to be replayed - EFL love to stay how they want league positions to be earnt on the pitch, so handing a result to Vale would go against this. So it'll probably happen.
For the sake of the Port Vale fans, if it is rearranged and Reading fans are allowed to attend, Can we aim not to cause a second abandonment in the rearranged fixture?

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Reading4eva » 15 Jan 2024 11:58

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Stranded In the circumstance, I hope they ask for the game to be replayed - EFL love to stay how they want league positions to be earnt on the pitch, so handing a result to Vale would go against this. So it'll probably happen.
For the sake of the Port Vale fans, if it is rearranged and Reading fans are allowed to attend, Can we aim not to cause a second abandonment in the rearranged fixture?


Theres no point doing this against Port Vale again. Their fans are on our side. Lets keep them there.

I think the game that should be earmarked is Leyton Orient if at all. Hopefully Dai will have started the process of selling by then which if thats the case, just final parting shots and banners in the stadium will be enough.

Plus as a side who have suffered similar struggles in the past, they will be sympathetic and are sympathetic from what I've seen

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Snowflake Royal » 15 Jan 2024 12:21

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Stranded In the circumstance, I hope they ask for the game to be replayed - EFL love to stay how they want league positions to be earnt on the pitch, so handing a result to Vale would go against this. So it'll probably happen.
For the sake of the Port Vale fans, if it is rearranged and Reading fans are allowed to attend, Can we aim not to cause a second abandonment in the rearranged fixture?


Theres no point doing this against Port Vale again. Their fans are on our side. Lets keep them there.

I think the game that should be earmarked is Leyton Orient if at all. Hopefully Dai will have started the process of selling by then which if thats the case, just final parting shots and banners in the stadium will be enough.

Plus as a side who have suffered similar struggles in the past, they will be sympathetic and are sympathetic from what I've seen

He started the process in September, and any sale negotiations are subject to NDA

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by tmesis » 15 Jan 2024 12:22

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Stranded In the circumstance, I hope they ask for the game to be replayed - EFL love to stay how they want league positions to be earnt on the pitch, so handing a result to Vale would go against this. So it'll probably happen.
For the sake of the Port Vale fans, if it is rearranged and Reading fans are allowed to attend, Can we aim not to cause a second abandonment in the rearranged fixture?


Theres no point doing this against Port Vale again. Their fans are on our side. Lets keep them there.

I think the game that should be earmarked is Leyton Orient if at all. Hopefully Dai will have started the process of selling by then which if thats the case, just final parting shots and banners in the stadium will be enough.

Plus as a side who have suffered similar struggles in the past, they will be sympathetic and are sympathetic from what I've seen

I think more abandonments will be counterproductive, and just piss people off, and won't get the same publicity. I would also suspect any points deduction we get from the football league will contain a much larger suspended penalty, meaning if we do it again, we will be relegated barring a miraculous set of results.

It's easier said than done, but we need to be creative.


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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by biff » 15 Jan 2024 12:48

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Forbury Lion For the sake of the Port Vale fans, if it is rearranged and Reading fans are allowed to attend, Can we aim not to cause a second abandonment in the rearranged fixture?


Theres no point doing this against Port Vale again. Their fans are on our side. Lets keep them there.

I think the game that should be earmarked is Leyton Orient if at all. Hopefully Dai will have started the process of selling by then which if thats the case, just final parting shots and banners in the stadium will be enough.

Plus as a side who have suffered similar struggles in the past, they will be sympathetic and are sympathetic from what I've seen

I think more abandonments will be counterproductive, and just piss people off, and won't get the same publicity. I would also suspect any points deduction we get from the football league will contain a much larger suspended penalty, meaning if we do it again, we will be relegated barring a miraculous set of results.

It's easier said than done, but we need to be creative.


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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Hound » 15 Jan 2024 13:08

My guess is it’ll be a number of games behind closed doors as punishment with us replaying the PV game

Maybe a fine as well but who knows if that’ll be paid. Obvs won’t be great if that has to come out of club coffers rather than Dai

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Mr Optimist » 15 Jan 2024 13:11

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Forbury Lion For the sake of the Port Vale fans, if it is rearranged and Reading fans are allowed to attend, Can we aim not to cause a second abandonment in the rearranged fixture?


Theres no point doing this against Port Vale again. Their fans are on our side. Lets keep them there.

I think the game that should be earmarked is Leyton Orient if at all. Hopefully Dai will have started the process of selling by then which if thats the case, just final parting shots and banners in the stadium will be enough.

Plus as a side who have suffered similar struggles in the past, they will be sympathetic and are sympathetic from what I've seen

I think more abandonments will be counterproductive, and just piss people off, and won't get the same publicity. I would also suspect any points deduction we get from the football league will contain a much larger suspended penalty, meaning if we do it again, we will be relegated barring a miraculous set of results.

It's easier said than done, but we need to be creative.


I’ve been thinking along these lines and perhaps try and get a big crowd in, noisy and vocal support for the team and manager and then all (or all those that support action), leave en masse on the 71st minute and walk together back in to town, followed by a few hours drinking in town. Would be great to see 5-6000 people just get up and leave and walk together from the ground in to town.

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by BRO_BOT » 15 Jan 2024 13:19

- Burn the Madjeski to the ground

- Mow "Dai is a Pcunt" onto the pitch

- Make the first team play in dresses*

C'mon guys, we need to think #bigger








* just something I"D like to see tbf


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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Lower West » 15 Jan 2024 13:20

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tmesis I think one thing it does do is put more pressure on the EFL, and for them to press for him to be banned from football if/when they meet with the independent panel again, to decide on punishments.

It's hard to think of any action that would obviously make Dai more likely to sell, but the protests are helping force the issue far more than doing nothing would.


Banned from football puts the selling process in the hands of the administrator, best offer wins taking into account the creditors.
Dai's dept is mainly to himself so really Admin is the best outcome at the moment, which is why certain parties are holding back and not getting into a bidding scenario just yet.

Got anything to back that up?


If he ceases all personal funding of the club. Then the other remaining Directors will have no other option. The Directors are obliged to cease to trade immediately. Trading insolvently is a criminal offence.

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by BRO_BOT » 15 Jan 2024 13:26

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Stranded In the circumstance, I hope they ask for the game to be replayed - EFL love to stay how they want league positions to be earnt on the pitch, so handing a result to Vale would go against this. So it'll probably happen.
For the sake of the Port Vale fans, if it is rearranged and Reading fans are allowed to attend, Can we aim not to cause a second abandonment in the rearranged fixture?


I think we should for the lols..."we promise we defo won't do it this time...wwweeeeeaaayyyy!!"

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Franchise FC » 15 Jan 2024 13:28

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Stranded In the circumstance, I hope they ask for the game to be replayed - EFL love to stay how they want league positions to be earnt on the pitch, so handing a result to Vale would go against this. So it'll probably happen.
For the sake of the Port Vale fans, if it is rearranged and Reading fans are allowed to attend, Can we aim not to cause a second abandonment in the rearranged fixture?

Should allow all of the travelling fans in for free, too

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Snowflake Royal » 15 Jan 2024 13:45

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Banned from football puts the selling process in the hands of the administrator, best offer wins taking into account the creditors.
Dai's dept is mainly to himself so really Admin is the best outcome at the moment, which is why certain parties are holding back and not getting into a bidding scenario just yet.

Got anything to back that up?


If he ceases all personal funding of the club. Then the other remaining Directors will have no other option. The Directors are obliged to cease to trade immediately. Trading insolvently is a criminal offence.

I doubt the guy sitting in Thailand gives a shit.

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Winston Biscuit » 15 Jan 2024 14:41

Football Weekly podcast on Thursday will have a section on it dedicated to our situation

They will have an RFC fan on there to discuss it. Unsure if that will be a representative of SBWD or otherwise. Personally I hope otherwise.

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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by BRO_BOT » 15 Jan 2024 15:08

Winston Biscuit Football Weekly podcast on Thursday will have a section on it dedicated to our situation

They will have an RFC fan on there to discuss it. Unsure if that will be a representative of SBWD or otherwise. Personally I hope otherwise.


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Re: Did the protest do what it intended?

by Winston Biscuit » 15 Jan 2024 15:23

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Winston Biscuit Football Weekly podcast on Thursday will have a section on it dedicated to our situation

They will have an RFC fan on there to discuss it. Unsure if that will be a representative of SBWD or otherwise. Personally I hope otherwise.


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