MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by URZZZZ » 08 Apr 2024 10:05

A lot of stick for Mukairu, some perhaps justified as not a lot came off for him but I do think we are a better side with him in the XI as opposed to playing Elliott or Ehib out there

Natural width draws the defenders out and opens up space for the likes of Knibbs to operate between the lines whereas when we play Elliott or Ehib out wide, it feels like they drift inside too much and it becomes too congested in the middle of the pitch

Movement and utilisation of space is an important aspect of the game and I thought it was something we did very well in the main, marred by a really poor end product

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by traff » 08 Apr 2024 11:00

URZZZZ A lot of stick for Mukairu, some perhaps justified as not a lot came off for him but I do think we are a better side with him in the XI as opposed to playing Elliott or Ehib out there

Natural width draws the defenders out and opens up space for the likes of Knibbs to operate between the lines whereas when we play Elliott or Ehib out wide, it feels like they drift inside too much and it becomes too congested in the middle of the pitch

Movement and utilisation of space is an important aspect of the game and I thought it was something we did very well in the main, marred by a really poor end product


agreed

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by WestYorksRoyal » 08 Apr 2024 11:03

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URZZZZ A lot of stick for Mukairu, some perhaps justified as not a lot came off for him but I do think we are a better side with him in the XI as opposed to playing Elliott or Ehib out there

Natural width draws the defenders out and opens up space for the likes of Knibbs to operate between the lines whereas when we play Elliott or Ehib out wide, it feels like they drift inside too much and it becomes too congested in the middle of the pitch

Movement and utilisation of space is an important aspect of the game and I thought it was something we did very well in the main, marred by a really poor end product


agreed

Yep, all on board with playing players in their specialist positions, and he is our only specialist LW even if he has been a disappointment.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Apr 2024 12:21

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windermereROYAL Ref badly positioned, couldn`t see the handball.

Yep. With his lino looking from the same side from an even narrower angle. Very good and brave lino seeing and calling that from the far side halfway line.

Deserves a retrospective ban for the player.


Shouldn't the ref be on the other side of the pitch if the far side lino is in the Reading half?

I would say he got sucked too high and narrow. Probably should have been more around the D, but I'll ask a ref chum if I get a chance.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by windermereROYAL » 08 Apr 2024 19:18

Basically he just followed the ball, which no referee should do, that`s why you have assistants.


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by Clyde1998 » 08 Apr 2024 20:24

windermereROYAL Basically he just followed the ball, which no referee should do, that`s why you have assistants.

I always though refs ran from the left-back position to left-back position, with the linesmen running down the flank of the right-back position to maximise how much of the game each can see.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by windermereROYAL » 08 Apr 2024 21:03

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windermereROYAL Basically he just followed the ball, which no referee should do, that`s why you have assistants.

I always though refs ran from the left-back position to left-back position, with the linesmen running down the flank of the right-back position to maximise how much of the game each can see.



That`s RB to RB, he ended up in the Lincoln LB position.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by Clyde1998 » 08 Apr 2024 21:16

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windermereROYAL Basically he just followed the ball, which no referee should do, that`s why you have assistants.

I always though refs ran from the left-back position to left-back position, with the linesmen running down the flank of the right-back position to maximise how much of the game each can see.



That`s RB to RB, he ended up in the Lincoln LB position.

Sorry, I meant left-wing position to left-wing position. Should've been obvious when I posted the diagram :lol:

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by rabidbee » 08 Apr 2024 23:30

Having seen the very slow replay that the club posted today, I think it was smashed straight into the Lincoln player’s face.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by Royal Rother » 09 Apr 2024 06:46

rabidbee Having seen the very slow replay that the club posted today, I think it was smashed straight into the Lincoln player’s face.


Even if it hit his arm, it was tucked in. Not an obvious pen at all. Brilliant piece of defending I’d suggest.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by WestYorksRoyal » 09 Apr 2024 07:00

Certainly not convinced VAR would have overturned it. Could have been given but not a howler.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Apr 2024 07:33

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rabidbee Having seen the very slow replay that the club posted today, I think it was smashed straight into the Lincoln player’s face.


Even if it hit his arm, it was tucked in. Not an obvious pen at all. Brilliant piece of defending I’d suggest.

Looked like it hit his hand and then smashed into his face.

Very much having second thoughts

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by morganb » 09 Apr 2024 08:46

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rabidbee Having seen the very slow replay that the club posted today, I think it was smashed straight into the Lincoln player’s face.


Even if it hit his arm, it was tucked in. Not an obvious pen at all. Brilliant piece of defending I’d suggest.

Looked like it hit his hand and then smashed into his face.

Very much having second thoughts


From memory - when looking on from 1871, when the incident happened it certainly looked like hand ball. It wasn't the tucked in hand but the top arm it struck, it resembled a goalie's dive more than anything.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by WestYorksRoyal » 09 Apr 2024 08:52

If people are debating it, it can't have been a clear error. Compare it to Derby where even their fans were admitting we'd been mugged.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by jd82 » 09 Apr 2024 12:36

WestYorksRoyal If people are debating it, it can't have been a clear error.


Depends who the 'people' are, IMO

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Apr 2024 12:51

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WestYorksRoyal If people are debating it, it can't have been a clear error.


Depends who the 'people' are, IMO

There is this.

I'm not sure Stevie Wonder can have a valid take on it.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by Snowball » 09 Apr 2024 16:40

Just thinking that this is the second time an opposition
defender made a stunning block while lying on the floor
against us

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by Armadillo Roadkill » 09 Apr 2024 17:08

WestYorksRoyal If people are debating it, it can't have been a clear error. Compare it to Derby where even their fans were admitting we'd been mugged.


This.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by blythspartan » 09 Apr 2024 17:42

WestYorksRoyal If people are debating it, it can't have been a clear error. Compare it to Derby where even their fans were admitting we'd been mugged.


Agree

Tbh, although bad referee decisions feel rubbish at the time I’d still take them over VAR all day long. The thought of going crazy celebrating a goal to get it chalked off a few minutes later doesn’t fit well with me.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Lincoln City (h)

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Apr 2024 17:49

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WestYorksRoyal If people are debating it, it can't have been a clear error. Compare it to Derby where even their fans were admitting we'd been mugged.


Agree

Tbh, although bad referee decisions feel rubbish at the time I’d still take them over VAR all day long. The thought of going crazy celebrating a goal to get it chalked off a few minutes later doesn’t fit well with me.

I really have never, and will never, get this attitude.

Just do what happens without VAR - celebrate the goal. The only difference between that and non- VAR goals being checked amongst officials is the time it takes.

You still have goals where the Ref goes and consults their lino and things that get ruled out for offsides/handballs/fouls after a bit of a delay without VAR.

And if there is a VAR check, a lot of the time you get to celebrate the goal a second time when it's confirmed. Get to celebrate a goal from a penalty that you wouldn’t otherwise have got. Or get to celebrate and laugh in the opposition's face because their goal's been ruled out just as much as you get disappointed your own has been ruled out.

VAR = more correct decisions.

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