Schards#2 Just checked our points total and, whilst I would have had enough for the first tranche of Villa tickets, my wife would have been 5 points short had we not bought the Feyernoord tickets.
Which rather illustrates my point.
rabidbeeEast Stand Ste why do u get less points for travelling away?!....its should be more surely!!
Because the club wants to reward its frequent customers, just like Tesco and Morrisons. It doesn't make money on the away tickets. This isn;t about loyalty to the team, but loyalty (and worth) to the brand.
Hoop BlahrabidbeeEast Stand Ste why do u get less points for travelling away?!....its should be more surely!!
Because the club wants to reward its frequent customers, just like Tesco and Morrisons. It doesn't make money on the away tickets. This isn;t about loyalty to the team, but loyalty (and worth) to the brand.
Which is why the points system obviously isn't the fairest way to allocate tickets for games any more.
If the club think that a friendly game is worthy of points then they should be consistant and allocate points for the away games as well.
Stranded They do allocate points for away games in line with the amount of money they receive.
The reason they have offered so many points for this game is that friendlies aren't attractive (regardless of opposition), it's at the time of year that there is a lot of other things competing for peoples time and as it's week before the season proper, the game may seem even less attractive.
It is also £16 that the club wouldn't have got if there were no game so they have chosen to reward those who are going significantly.
Hoop Blah The club set the system up on the premise of it being used to ensure the more loyal fans got first dibs on tickets for the high demand games. The system no longer does this as the club have expanded it to become a revenue generating tool.
This is exactly the type of thing that the thread is highlighting, the club is evolving in a way that I, and others it seems, don't like and it's becoming more and more a money grabbing machine as opposed to a football club which was reasonably close to it's fans base.
rabidbee To which, the club can reply that the more loyal fans will go to all the home games (indeed presumably even have an ST) and to as many away games as possible, and so naturally will have more points than most. I don't see that there is a problem with it, myself. AND that is despite being an exile, who until buying a HST last December generally went to more away games than home games, because there were so many games in the north-west. Therefore, I only have 320-odd points (having renewed my ST), so I thoroughly expect to have trouble going to my "local" match at Old Trafford.
Still, I don't see what else the club can do, frankly. Nor am I persuaded that it is an unfair system. We are all competing on a level-playing field. New fans may gain points at a faster rate than established fans, but established fans are already beginning from a good head-start.
If used properly the only draw back of the system I can see is that it might create a closed shop of elite fans as those new fans with less points will be unable to get to enough games to close the gap with the super fans. That is just the nature of the beast though.
Schards#2 As we close in on the start of a historic season, I wonder if i'm alone in being disappointed with the way things have gone over the close season.
Last season could not have been better and we finished the season on a euphoric high, however, since then, it all appears to have been about money rather than the excitement of the coming challange.
- Huge hike in ticket prices with no concession for long term fans
- Sidwell's wage demands
- The radio rights fiasco
- Forced to attend pre season friendly to ge necessary loyalty points
- Various other things such as charging to have a photo with the trophy
At a time when the players have never been paid more, they seem to be less happy than ever with their earnings and at a time when the club has never had more money going into its coffers, it's never seemed more intent on squeezing every last penny out of the supporters regardless of whether they are new or long term.
As things stand, we are paying a near doubling of ticket price on a game by game basis to watch what is virtually the same team and, arguably, a weaker team if Sidwell were to leave.
Obviously, I wouldn't change things and am looking forward to they season but it concerns me that the spirit of togetherness as a club that brought us through last season could die with this obsession with money and if the fans see the players and club reaping a huge increase in income when all the fans see is a huge increase in expenditure, that goodwill will quickly dissipate.
papereyesIf used properly the only draw back of the system I can see is that it might create a closed shop of elite fans as those new fans with less points will be unable to get to enough games to close the gap with the super fans. That is just the nature of the beast though.
There's a simple way around that though, isn't there?
Give points a lifetime.
papereyes I have to say that I agree with most of what you've posted. It came as a short sharp shock to find how far short I was of getting any level of priority to Villa, a game I've really looked forwards to.
And couple this with a lot of the other things going on this summer ...
I'm not sure that would solve the problem thoug.
Those with access to tickets through their higher points will still be able to buy tickets for games that those with low totals can't get. Even if you aged the points out after a number of years those who couldn't get tickets would still not be accuring new points as those with the elapsing points would've been buying the tickets up.
It might slowly close the gap, it all depends on how often the upper points brackets snap up all the tickets.
It'll be interesting to see how far down the points chain it takes for us to sell out.
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