Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

290 posts
User avatar
T.R.O.L.I.
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 6526
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 14:47
Location: 2 down, far right - Still recovering from the weekend's excesses

Re: Coppell happy to have a replay

by T.R.O.L.I. » 22 Sep 2008 12:09

Geekins We would've won i feel before that incident, we were by far the better team, but if there was a replay, then Watford would be up for that like they were in the 2nd half.


Also would we possibly be at a disadvantage due to the amount of players they had on the treatment table at the weekend...

User avatar
Rex
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5910
Joined: 15 Feb 2008 21:00
Location: Well this thread has been a rousing success.

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by Rex » 22 Sep 2008 12:14

Would both clubs have to play the same eligable players. I think TROLI raises a reasonable question there. When would this be fitted into the calendar. At the end of the season? Why should both clubs play an extra competative match. At the goals also struck off.does N Hunt have to find a week when he's got the trots again.

User avatar
Dave the rave
Member
Posts: 870
Joined: 26 Dec 2004 18:15
Location: Likes this

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by Dave the rave » 22 Sep 2008 12:21

One thing's for sure, we've added a little more history to our club.
This is a dead cert for 'what happened next' in 10 years time.

And to all the people on here who are berating that we look bad because of the officials' mistake I suggest you have a word with yourselves.

I support my club. It seems that some on here don't.

DelBoyRodders
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 293
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 14:15
Location: There's none so blind as them that won't listen.

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by DelBoyRodders » 22 Sep 2008 12:23

Laura Norder it must of bin a gaol at half time the lad brokes man was paying back if yuo bet on n hunt fist gaol scoer i saw him do it


FCUK OFF

fozzy
Member
Posts: 50
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 11:49
Location: just in front of the bogs, southbank

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by fozzy » 22 Sep 2008 12:36

The main problem have with Coppell's statement on the OS that "we would replay the game" is that it's easy for him to say so on his ten grand a week or whatever, but realistically who funds it?

Free tickets for those who went? (Or only if you kept the stubs?!) - if so, do Watford suffer the cost of hosting a game (stewards, police, catering staff, etc etc etc) at their cost again, if no revenue through turnstiles?

Travel repaid?
Parking repaid?
NO, OF COURSE THEY WON'T BE

or, as these are unsolveable, just down to the fans to fork out again?! I bet that's the case.

The 'goal' didn't win us the game, and you could argue it nearly cost us it. Without that, we probably would have won 2 or 3 nil based on the play, and without Watford's anger............ and what with Bikey's good goal being ruled out, 1 possibly 2 more penalties ignored it's just not worth it, not worth the "What if" argument... else where do you draw the line? How bad does a mistake have to be before a game gets replayed and how long after it's finished?

ANYONE UP FOR REPLAYING THE 1966 WORLD CUP FINAL !?

(ps the one person who should fund it is the fecking lino!!!!)


User avatar
Franchise FC
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 11035
Joined: 22 May 2007 16:24
Location: Relocated to LA

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by Franchise FC » 22 Sep 2008 13:06

SteveRoyal Referee's aren't allowed to go back on their decision.
But this judgement clearly shows the need for video replays.
It cries out for it.


Sorry, but that's simply not true. Alan Wiley went back on his decision in the Stoke - Everton game. Same weekend in the Football League a referee gave a penalty, then after speaking to an assistant referee who told him the defender had got the ball, changed his mind.

Man Friday
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 2856
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 13:45

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by Man Friday » 22 Sep 2008 13:25

You don't need video technology to not award a goal when the ball is 4 yards away. You just need an assistant referee with half-decent eyesight and a referee with balls. Most of all you need common sense - officials: didn't you think it mildly odd that no one was celebrating or even appealing, etc? What absolutely absolute idiots.

Forbury Lion
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 8713
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 08:37
Location: https://youtu.be/c4sX57ZUhzc

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by Forbury Lion » 22 Sep 2008 13:27

Knowing our luck we'd have been reported for match fixing had we allowed them to equalise.

1960
Member
Posts: 537
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 16:29
Location: Downtown

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by 1960 » 22 Sep 2008 13:30

Arsenal replayed a cup game against Sheff Utd when they scored from a throw-in which where Sheff expected the ball to be given back to them. Arsenal knew they would win the replay any way, so it wasn't a hard decision.

However, the questions about personnel, tickets, costs etc etc may be answered from that game.


User avatar
floyd__streete
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 8326
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 18:03
Location: ARREST RAY ILSLEY.

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by floyd__streete » 22 Sep 2008 13:37

FiNeRaIn Without this awful piece of officiating we would have lost. Once again we were terrible at the back and couldn't take the chances up front, we scored a pen and a goal that never was, watford scored two goals from open play.


Now you are talking sense, lets discuss this instead. Having seen a replay of the Watford goals.....what an absolute shambles from Reading. Twice.

aardvark
Member
Posts: 47
Joined: 04 Nov 2005 18:27

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by aardvark » 22 Sep 2008 13:37

I'm not sure whether or not, at the time, the RFC players should have done something to rectify the 'goal'. But, surely, to replay the game now would be daft. Where would this end? How blatant would the mistake have to be for the match to be replayed - there's often handballs/offsides that it turns out were given/not given incorrectly. It would mean every time you were at a match when there was a bad decision you'd sit there wondering if the rest of what you were watching was going to count for nothing 'cos the match was going to get replayed.

User avatar
Dirk Gently
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 10873
Joined: 08 Sep 2005 13:54

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by Dirk Gently » 22 Sep 2008 13:38

1960 Arsenal replayed a cup game against Sheff Utd when they scored from a throw-in which where Sheff expected the ball to be given back to them. Arsenal knew they would win the replay any way, so it wasn't a hard decision.


But the key difference is that it was an Arsenal player who made the error - in this case breakin the the convention Sheffield Utd were expecting - not the referee!

User avatar
floyd__streete
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 8326
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 18:03
Location: ARREST RAY ILSLEY.

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by floyd__streete » 22 Sep 2008 13:39

Derbyshire Royal Reading FC's image will be tarnished by this


:lol:

Oh dear god.


User avatar
Royal Lady
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 13760
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 10:17
Location: Don't mess with "my sort". Cheers then.

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by Royal Lady » 22 Sep 2008 13:42

You try telling them Floyd - I'm just fed up of hitting my head against a brick wall. :roll:

Man Friday
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 2856
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 13:45

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by Man Friday » 22 Sep 2008 13:50

floyd__streete
FiNeRaIn Without this awful piece of officiating we would have lost.

I assume you wern't there...please tell me you weren't there. If you were there's no way you could have arrived att his conclusion. We had a legit goal disallowed and 2 other legit pen appeals turned down as well as hitting the crossbar (twice).

User avatar
Y21
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 391
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 11:45
Location: Here, there and everywhere

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by Y21 » 22 Sep 2008 13:54

I for one hope we get promoted on a goal difference. That'd be a laugh. Especially if we finish one goal ahead of Watford.

West Stand Man
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 3102
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 08:37
Location: Working my nuts off during early retirement

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by West Stand Man » 22 Sep 2008 13:55

Let's see,

Stoke defenders all realise that Torres wan't offside at all, so the next time Liverpool attack Stoke defenders all stand aside and allow them to score. Likely? No.

Everton players are sure that the ball did not cross the line when it bounced down and so allow Hull a goal to compensate. Likely? No.

Any player anywhere is tripped and a penalty was the right decision, but the referee doesn't award it. Next attack the defence stands aside and allows a goal in compensation for the penalty. Likely? You are getting the picture.

Or, how about the referee gets in the way of a clearance and deflects it straight into the path of a striker who has a simple shot on goal and scores. Does his team (let's call them Norwich) compensate by allowing Reading a goal? No, and nor should they.

It was massively poor refereeing, but the result stands and it was not up to Reading to deal with it.

User avatar
floyd__streete
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 8326
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 18:03
Location: ARREST RAY ILSLEY.

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by floyd__streete » 22 Sep 2008 13:59

West Stand Man It was massively poor refereeing, but the result stands and it was not up to Reading to deal with it.


Hurrah! A sensible voice amongst us at last.

User avatar
Dirk Gently
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 10873
Joined: 08 Sep 2005 13:54

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by Dirk Gently » 22 Sep 2008 14:06

West Stand Man Let's see,

Stoke defenders all realise that Torres wan't offside at all, so the next time Liverpool attack Stoke defenders all stand aside and allow them to score. Likely? No.

Everton players are sure that the ball did not cross the line when it bounced down and so allow Hull a goal to compensate. Likely? No.

Any player anywhere is tripped and a penalty was the right decision, but the referee doesn't award it. Next attack the defence stands aside and allows a goal in compensation for the penalty. Likely? You are getting the picture.

Or, how about the referee gets in the way of a clearance and deflects it straight into the path of a striker who has a simple shot on goal and scores. Does his team (let's call them Norwich) compensate by allowing Reading a goal? No, and nor should they.

It was massively poor refereeing, but the result stands and it was not up to Reading to deal with it.


Quite apart from that, what about the Chesterfiled v Middlesboro FA Cup semi-final? Massive and obvious injustice there! Why not have a replay?

Start down this road of replays after referee's mistakes and God knows where it will all end!

User avatar
Rex
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5910
Joined: 15 Feb 2008 21:00
Location: Well this thread has been a rousing success.

Re: Dissapointed- The goal that Never was.

by Rex » 22 Sep 2008 14:08

The season never will anyway.

290 posts

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Mid Sussex Royal and 562 guests

It is currently 27 Apr 2024 10:52