The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Wimb » 28 Oct 2009 14:10

Royal Lady Explain to me, what is the point of saying that his family are affected if not to garner some sort of sympathy. What was the point about appearing tearful (if reports on here are to be believed) after the QPR game, if not to try and garner some sort of sympathy? I hope he is hurting - it would show that he does care - but like I said, trying to get sympathy from us, the fans, who pay out a heck of a lot of money to watch these awful games, is going a bit far IMO. If everyone else wants to feel sorry for him fine, I was just saying that it wouldn't wash WITH ME.


Right...

Show let me get this straight, a man who cares so passionately for a club he's worked for for close to a decade and has tried every trick in the book so far to get a result, then suffers another painful defeat. Wouldn't that bring anyone close to tears? Are you having a go because he's not 'manned up' I heard the interview and it was the most cut up I'd heard a manager since SSC gave his one after Burnley.

More to the point, you're on this message board talking about your family when something good/bad happens because I'd imagine you want to connect and let people relate to you, which is fair enough. So if thats the case, just because this man (who happens to be RFC manager) admits that his family and himself are affected by his job going badly, it's immediatly some sort of cunning plan to deflect the flack.

Give me a bloody break. He's hardly trying to get sympathy from us, he's just doing what he has done since day 1 and thats being honest. If being honest makes people feel sorry for him so be it and I find it rather sad that you can't feel sympathy for a man who, yes maybe doing a shite job, but is still trying hard, and all because you've paid for a season ticket.

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Royal Lady » 28 Oct 2009 14:31

LOLz - you see I do actually question whether he's "trying hard" - Even I, a 98 year old shrivelled up old witch, wouldn't have fecked about with so many different players from the start, even I would have seen that the likes of Cummings at £300k was a complete waste of money, etc etc. Let's face it, basically, he isn't very good, and to my mind he's trying to detract from his failings by looking for the sympathy vote, because he knows that an awful lot of fans want him out.

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 28 Oct 2009 14:43

I am not a fan of BR, but to use one signing to bash him with is daft, SC made a load of failed signings. As a 98 year old you will have seen the worst start ever in the 30's, so should be used to this shit.

Reality says that no one made you buy ST's for the season, you chose to. There never were and never are any promises.

However lets all hope that after mondays display the corner can be turned.

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by I was there at Elm Park » 28 Oct 2009 14:43

Royal Lady Even I, a 98 year old shrivelled up old witch, wouldn't have fecked about with so many different players from the start


I know Rodgers has changed the team/formation too much but lets be honest few players have deserved to be picked every game and the previous game's performances often warranted a change.

Newcastle - Maybe should have kept the same team as Forest after encouraging performance
Swansea - Had to make changes after 3-0 defeat
Sheff Utd - Had to make changes after a woeful performance
Barnsley - Could have kept the same team but we won so no complaints
Doncaster - Had to replace Rosenior but otherwise the team that played against Barnsley deserved another go
Cardiff - Lack of chances created meant we needed to freshen things up
Peterborough - Could have kept the same team.
Watford - Awful second half meant there had to be changes.
Preston - Could have kept the same team after half decent display.
Middlesbrough - Kept the same team
WBA - Bad performance made changes likely but maybe could have given the team another go.
QPR - Poor spineless display saw us go "back to basics"
Leicester - Worst performance of the season

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Royal Lady » 28 Oct 2009 14:51

Harpers So Solid Crew I am not a fan of BR, but to use one signing to bash him with is daft, SC made a load of failed signings. As a 98 year old you will have seen the worst start ever in the 30's, so should be used to this shit.

Reality says that no one made you buy ST's for the season, you chose to. There never were and never are any promises.

However lets all hope that after mondays display the corner can be turned.
It was an example - I could have cited signing Matt Mills for £2 million, leaving him on the bench or not even in the squad, people saying "he wasn't match fit" and then him suddenly playing and being one of our better players, I could cite Matejovsky being dropped on a whim and then recalled on a whim and him being our best player. I could mention that that a lot of people were encouraged to buy their STs because the new manager and the chairman were so keen to tell us of the world class model and how we intended to be back in the Premiership. I'm sorry if no-one else likes my stance on this current soundbite from Rodgers, but I'm entitled to my opinion, so I'm giving it.


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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 28 Oct 2009 15:03

you are a fan and fully entitled to views, however at this moment in time we have manager who was on a loser from day one, SC took over a decent squad, BR has taken over a failing squad, the best of which had to be sold. We have bought players he knew, and as he is not got the experience that Coppell had, the players he knows are perhaps not so good a pool as Copps had to draw from.

in the same situation SC would have brought in players he has worked with, BR does not have the same luxury, sadly

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Wimb » 28 Oct 2009 16:49

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Harpers So Solid Crew I am not a fan of BR, but to use one signing to bash him with is daft, SC made a load of failed signings. As a 98 year old you will have seen the worst start ever in the 30's, so should be used to this shit.

Reality says that no one made you buy ST's for the season, you chose to. There never were and never are any promises.

However lets all hope that after mondays display the corner can be turned.
It was an example - I could have cited signing Matt Mills for £2 million, leaving him on the bench or not even in the squad, people saying "he wasn't match fit" and then him suddenly playing and being one of our better players, I could cite Matejovsky being dropped on a whim and then recalled on a whim and him being our best player. I could mention that that a lot of people were encouraged to buy their STs because the new manager and the chairman were so keen to tell us of the world class model and how we intended to be back in the Premiership. I'm sorry if no-one else likes my stance on this current soundbite from Rodgers, but I'm entitled to my opinion, so I'm giving it.


As Harper said, so the club being ambitious and stating so in the press made you buy a season ticket? are you serious?

You didn't bother to make your own mind up and consider the fact that the team who had let go 7 first teamers and had little money to spend might struggle?

Every club is ambitious in the summer, every club believes it can do well and says so, take a look at any official site and local paper in July and you'll get the same bloody messages. The point is If you are stupid enough to believe the platitudes that come out of a clubs PR department then you deserve to lose a few hundred quid. Not that any ST holder has 'lost money' as they are still getting 23 Championship home games. I'd love to know how you would have promoted this season if you were PR officer? Coming after the fact we'd failed to even sell out a playoff semi final, would you really have gone out and said,

"yeah this new manager is an unknown quantity and the changes we've had to make due to financial considerations might mean we struggle to be competitive this year."

As for World Class model talk etc, how do you know BR hasn't implemented such a model behind the scenes and on the training ground? He promised a 'World Class model' not world class performances. With regard to Madejski and 'ambition to get back in the PL' What is spending £3.5 million other then ambition to get into the PL? He didn't say, well we spent £2 million on this lad so we can stay in the Championship for 10 years. Nor did he say, well as you can see, the club spending 2 million pounds makes us dead certain to go back up this year.

I dont think any rational person is saying BR hasn't made oxf*rd ups but why weren't there 50x SSC out! threads after he ballsed up with the likes of Fae, who he paid £2.5 million odd for and then didn't play? Oh that's right because SSC was judged over a 5 year period and not on 14 games or 1 or 2 signings who have had about 10 games to make an impact.

I understand you're a devoted fan who's pissed off that Rodgers has made cock ups, and I respect that. But perhaps you should back the guy and give him a chance longer then a couple of months. Would you really like to be judged after 1/3 of a season if you were in charge?

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by sandman » 28 Oct 2009 17:16

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Royal Lady Explain to me, what is the point of saying that his family are affected if not to garner some sort of sympathy. What was the point about appearing tearful (if reports on here are to be believed) after the QPR game, if not to try and garner some sort of sympathy? I hope he is hurting - it would show that he does care - but like I said, trying to get sympathy from us, the fans, who pay out a heck of a lot of money to watch these awful games, is going a bit far IMO. If everyone else wants to feel sorry for him fine, I was just saying that it wouldn't wash WITH ME.


Right...

Show let me get this straight, a man who cares so passionately for a club he's worked for for close to a decade and has tried every trick in the book so far to get a result, then suffers another painful defeat. Wouldn't that bring anyone close to tears? Are you having a go because he's not 'manned up' I heard the interview and it was the most cut up I'd heard a manager since SSC gave his one after Burnley.

More to the point, you're on this message board talking about your family when something good/bad happens because I'd imagine you want to connect and let people relate to you, which is fair enough. So if thats the case, just because this man (who happens to be RFC manager) admits that his family and himself are affected by his job going badly, it's immediatly some sort of cunning plan to deflect the flack.

Give me a bloody break. He's hardly trying to get sympathy from us, he's just doing what he has done since day 1 and thats being honest. If being honest makes people feel sorry for him so be it and I find it rather sad that you can't feel sympathy for a man who, yes maybe doing a shite job, but is still trying hard, and all because you've paid for a season ticket.


Maybe I misheard but I swear Rodgers said when he joined that he needed to divorce himself from any emotional attachment he had with the club. If he has now gone back on this and is being driven by his emotion, then he is contradicting himself.

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by andrew1957 » 28 Oct 2009 18:07

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Royal Lady Even I, a 98 year old shrivelled up old witch, wouldn't have fecked about with so many different players from the start


You are being hard on yourself Royal Lady - I am sure you cannot be that old or look that bad.


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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by andrew1957 » 28 Oct 2009 18:13

It does not take a genius to work out that BR has made mistakes and I am sure that if he were able to start the seaosn from scratch again he would do things differently.

I think he genuinely thought the players we had left were better than has proved to be the case. Indeed so did I. Some of our players have been very disappointing this season in all truth.

He tried to give everyone a chance - I am sure that he did not expect results to be so bad.

Now he realises that we have a problem he is reverting to 4-4-2 (perhaps a bit too late) and trying to get some results to give us a platform for the rest of the season.

We all make mistakes - it is how we learn from those and do things better in future that sorts the men out from the boys.

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Man Friday » 28 Oct 2009 20:30

Wimb Would you really like to be judged after 1/3 of a season if you were in charge?

"Like" is not the right word. Of course no one would "like" to be judged. We're not proving employment to Rodgers as an act of charity. The question is whether it's "reasonable" to be judged ater 1/3 of a season.

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Mike Hunt » 28 Oct 2009 21:45

Well said Wimb. Agree 100%

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Wimb » 29 Oct 2009 09:07

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Wimb Would you really like to be judged after 1/3 of a season if you were in charge?

"Like" is not the right word. Of course no one would "like" to be judged. We're not proving employment to Rodgers as an act of charity. The question is whether it's "reasonable" to be judged ater 1/3 of a season.


Anybody who judges a manager based on 1/3 of a season is either very very confident or a fool. As I've said elsewhere, if you judged managers along such lines you could find 1/3 of a season spells that make Coppell look awful, or Sir Alex


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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Ian Herring » 29 Oct 2009 09:57

andrew1957
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Royal Lady Even I, a 98 year old shrivelled up old witch, wouldn't have fecked about with so many different players from the start


You are being hard on yourself Royal Lady - I am sure you cannot be that old or look that bad.


Although she did tell Focher to stop calling her 'old lady' if I remember correctly. Hmmm. Confusing.

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Man Friday » 29 Oct 2009 11:48

Wimb
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Wimb Would you really like to be judged after 1/3 of a season if you were in charge?

"Like" is not the right word. Of course no one would "like" to be judged. We're not proving employment to Rodgers as an act of charity. The question is whether it's "reasonable" to be judged ater 1/3 of a season.


Anybody who judges a manager based on 1/3 of a season is either very very confident or a fool. As I've said elsewhere, if you judged managers along such lines you could find 1/3 of a season spells that make Coppell look awful, or Sir Alex

May be, may be not. I'm not arguing that. What I'm saying is that what Rodgers "likes" is irrelevant here - all that counts is what is the right thing for Reading FC.

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Terminal Boardom » 03 Nov 2009 21:27

Brendan Rodgers says that playing a settled team in the last two fixtures has helped increase our performance level.


Next week, BR will appear on Mastermind. His chosen specialist subject "Stating the bleeding obvious"

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by readingbedding » 05 Nov 2009 14:21

“You can’t get to the top of the mountain in just one or two steps and it takes time, but we’re moving forward and heading to where we want to be.”

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by handbags_harris » 13 Nov 2009 13:00

Poster in the dressing room (photographic evidence on Compo's Hat's Facebook):

"What winners do:

* Up the tempo
* World class basics
* Pride in the badge
* Ruthless simplicity
* Critical non-essentials
* Everything beats deadline
* Good enough - isn't
* Never leave the game early (start quick, finish strong)"

Just ALOL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Compo's Hat » 13 Nov 2009 13:07

It's a worLOLd cLOLass poster situated on the inside of the home team door.

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Re: The Official Rodger's Soundbite Thread

by Terminal Boardom » 13 Nov 2009 13:33

And now he can't quite make up his mind about the squad. Today's Scrote website have these wonderful gems:

I think we have a good squad here, but I always want to improve


and a little further down...

I know we have a good squad here, but I will always be looking where we can improve it


Don't you just love it?

For thos who want he latest spoutings...

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/readingfc/s/2060800_brendan_rodgers_talks_more_nonsense
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