Sustain the Game!

15 posts   •   Page 1 of 1
User avatar
STAR Liaison
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 1337
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 09:58

Sustain the Game!

by STAR Liaison » 24 Aug 2020 10:28

.... Lifting this post out of the Team Board where it didn't get much attention .....

STAR is signed up and backing it. The Covid-19 situation has made the crisis in football governance and finance even worse. But this could mean it’s a great time for change.

The campaign is backed by supporters’ groups from almost all 92 clubs, some clubs themselves, politicians from the three major parties and leading football media figures like Jamie Carragher who said “this is a difficult time for the game but it’s also a chance to make real changes.” The campaign looks for urgent action from the authorities to protect the very existence of clubs in this dangerous time.

The five principles of the campaign are:

1. Protect our clubs - football clubs are community assets and an important expression of individual and local identity, they deserve legal protection and urgent support to secure their future;
2. Transparency - everyone has a right to know who owns their club, and how clubs and the authorities operate. Owners are custodians of clubs on behalf of all of us;
3. Financial controls - fans want rules with real teeth which are independently enforced, clubs and leagues can't be left to regulate themselves;
4. Strengthen the pyramid - football as a whole is wealthy, but we need a smarter and fairer use of the money in the game to encourage sustainability;
5. Supporter engagement - fans are the lifeblood of the game, they need a voice in their clubs and on all issues that affect them and their communities.

To find out more about Sustain The Game! and see all signatories visit: http://www.thefsa.org.uk

Millsy
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 6277
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 18:36
Location: Shite little island soon to be sick man of Europe again and claim our rightful place as USA's bitch.

Re: Sustain the Game!

by Millsy » 22 Sep 2020 18:31

Nice!

User avatar
Green
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 16014
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 13:28

Re: Sustain the Game!

by Green » 25 Sep 2020 08:58

STAR Liaison The campaign looks for urgent action from the authorities to protect the very existence of clubs in this dangerous time.

Which authorities, and what action is required?

Looks very broad in scope and very general at the moment. A bit "Down with this sort of thing", dare I say it. Fine if it's only just getting started but feel like it needs a bit of refining if anything is to come of it other than placard waving.

User avatar
STAR Liaison
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 1337
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 09:58

Re: Sustain the Game!

by STAR Liaison » 03 Oct 2020 11:11

Green
STAR Liaison The campaign looks for urgent action from the authorities to protect the very existence of clubs in this dangerous time.

Which authorities, and what action is required?

Looks very broad in scope and very general at the moment. A bit "Down with this sort of thing", dare I say it. Fine if it's only just getting started but feel like it needs a bit of refining if anything is to come of it other than placard waving.


Sorry for tardy reply. The following statement is now on the STAR website:

"Professional football in the UK is in crisis and it needs Government support – i.e. money – NOW. If you’re concerned about the game’s future and Reading’s place within please lobby your local MP and / or Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden. If you live in Reading West please get in touch, as a constituent, with Alok Sharma, the Business Secretary.

While £1.5bn support for the Arts has been offered football has had nothing but platitudes and the vague hope that the Premier League will rescue everyone else. It won’t and it can’t. Dozens of clubs, key assets in their communities are at risk. Macclesfield have just gone. Bury are forced out of town to play several leagues lower. Wigan have big problems, League 1 and League 2 clubs will struggle to pay September wages let alone October’s with the stadiums now closed to fans indefinitely. We are not talking massive sums of money here. Damian Collins MP offered a workable plan in the summer that would cost around £200m. Rick Parry, chair of the EFL, currently suggests about £250m.

STAR Board members are meeting virtually with the Football Supporters Association on 1st and 7th October to see what we can do at a local level to address this national crisis. As far as we know Reading FC is not under immediate threat though there have been recent staff cuts. But we will be affected if we don’t have opponents to play or divisions to play in or if the Premier League and the big clubs in particular draw further away from us – and just offer football that is about brand and television, not community and match-going.

So please take the time to write a personal email to your MP or Oliver Dowden MP simply asking for immediate financial help to save the football pyramid and the hugely valued clubs within it. If these go down our society will be a lot poorer for it and the Government’s inaction will be remembered."

User avatar
STAR Liaison
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 1337
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 09:58

Re: Sustain the Game!

by STAR Liaison » 03 Oct 2020 11:13

And also this from the Football Supporters Association:

"We're continuing to lobby the Government and you might have seen that a load of the FSA's APPG for Football Supporter members have been lobbying the sports minister in Parliament this week and via open letter (which we worked with Damian Collins on and he received a lot of coverage for). We'll continue to do that briefing to MPs but every fan group can also play a role writing to their local MP."


User avatar
Green
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 16014
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 13:28

Re: Sustain the Game!

by Green » 08 Dec 2020 12:06

Maybe one for the unpopular opinions thread, but suppose the long suffering tax-payer does pay up at a time of national hardship - where does the money ultimately go? To [b/m]illionaire owners and players?

While noone wants to see their own club go to the wall, there aren't too many professional clubs I'd shed a tear for in all honesty.

If any public money does go in I'd want to see some pretty tight restrictions on where it's spent, and maybe also use the opportunity to push for reform of the game's finances. Maybe it's time we looked at spending caps/wage ceilings etc.

User avatar
Sutekh
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 11140
Joined: 12 Feb 2014 14:05
Location: Undiscovered pyramid somewhere in Egypt

Re: Sustain the Game!

by Sutekh » 08 Dec 2020 13:38

+1

User avatar
John Madejski's Wallet
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 18752
Joined: 10 Apr 2005 00:22
Location: Anyone who lives within their means shows a serious lack of imagination

Re: Sustain the Game!

by John Madejski's Wallet » 23 Dec 2020 12:37

Yeah +1 Greenerz

User avatar
STAR Liaison
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 1337
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 09:58

Re: Sustain the Game!

by STAR Liaison » 02 Feb 2021 12:24

"An unpopular, illegitimate, & dangerous scheme in the eyes of the overwhelming majority of fans.” In an unprecedented move, fans’ groups from across Europe have issued a joint statement in opposition to a European Super League.

There is a hugely supported petition condemning the idea of the the big European clubs breakaway league.

The statement has just been published on FSE’s website and on their social media:
https://twitter.com/FansEurope/status/1 ... 6415224833

STAR has signed this though we don't show up on the list on account of our lack of European creds. One day!


User avatar
Sutekh
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 11140
Joined: 12 Feb 2014 14:05
Location: Undiscovered pyramid somewhere in Egypt

Re: Sustain the Game!

by Sutekh » 02 Feb 2021 14:05

STAR Liaison "An unpopular, illegitimate, & dangerous scheme in the eyes of the overwhelming majority of fans.” In an unprecedented move, fans’ groups from across Europe have issued a joint statement in opposition to a European Super League.

There is a hugely supported petition condemning the idea of the the big European clubs breakaway league.

The statement has just been published on FSE’s website and on their social media:
https://twitter.com/FansEurope/status/1 ... 6415224833

STAR has signed this though we don't show up on the list on account of our lack of European creds. One day!


Agreed. The PL is already a step too far and this is just the final walk off the plank.

User avatar
John Madejski's Wallet
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 18752
Joined: 10 Apr 2005 00:22
Location: Anyone who lives within their means shows a serious lack of imagination

Re: Sustain the Game!

by John Madejski's Wallet » 01 Mar 2021 17:11

What's the plan for a European Super League?

Is it that the big clubs in each country piss off and start their own European-wide league? Or will they carry on playing domestically too?

If the former i'm actually up for it. I'd happily watch the Prem again if the top 4-6 clubs naffed off. If the latter that will be terrible for the domestic game

User avatar
Snowflake Royal
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 20309
Joined: 20 Jun 2017 17:51

Re: Sustain the Game!

by Snowflake Royal » 01 Mar 2021 19:05

John Madejski's Wallet What's the plan for a European Super League?

Is it that the big clubs in each country piss off and start their own European-wide league? Or will they carry on playing domestically too?

If the former i'm actually up for it. I'd happily watch the Prem again if the top 4-6 clubs naffed off. If the latter that will be terrible for the domestic game

Yep, I'd happily see the big clubs oxf*rd off. They can't all win most their games when they're in a league together. I'd enjoy the crying from the likes of Chelsea, Utd, Arsenal when they find themselves mid-table or worse and getting a beasting by Barcelona twice a season.

User avatar
STAR Liaison
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 1337
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 09:58

Re: Sustain the Game!

by STAR Liaison » 01 Mar 2021 21:37

John Madejski's Wallet What's the plan for a European Super League?

Is it that the big clubs in each country piss off and start their own European-wide league? Or will they carry on playing domestically too?

If the former i'm actually up for it. I'd happily watch the Prem again if the top 4-6 clubs naffed off. If the latter that will be terrible for the domestic game


They'll want both European and domestic cake - they'll play a B-ish side domestically.

Can't see quite how their power grab gets stopped - main hope is national FAs (!).


User avatar
STAR Liaison
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 1337
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 09:58

Re: Sustain the Game!

by STAR Liaison » 22 Apr 2021 15:45

Green
STAR Liaison The campaign looks for urgent action from the authorities to protect the very existence of clubs in this dangerous time.

Which authorities, and what action is required?

Looks very broad in scope and very general at the moment. A bit "Down with this sort of thing", dare I say it. Fine if it's only just getting started but feel like it needs a bit of refining if anything is to come of it other than placard waving.


The last week has shown the benefits of a united fan movement that has well-prepared arguments.

The Govt, in the form of Culture Sec Oliver Dowden, was singing from the hymn sheet written by the Football Supporters Association.

The long awaited Fan-led Review has been launched and is led by a proper football supporter.

The Greedy Six have been shamed and chastened.

Folk, now and rightly, are saying we don't just want to return to the status quo before ESL - we want some genuine push back against greed and poor governance in the game. We hope the corner is turned.

Join the FSA - it's free. https://thefsa.org.uk/join/

Join STAR next season - and you will be represented within the FSA.

User avatar
Sutekh
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 11140
Joined: 12 Feb 2014 14:05
Location: Undiscovered pyramid somewhere in Egypt

Re: Sustain the Game!

by Sutekh » 23 Apr 2021 13:59

STAR Liaison
Green
STAR Liaison The campaign looks for urgent action from the authorities to protect the very existence of clubs in this dangerous time.

Which authorities, and what action is required?

Looks very broad in scope and very general at the moment. A bit "Down with this sort of thing", dare I say it. Fine if it's only just getting started but feel like it needs a bit of refining if anything is to come of it other than placard waving.


The last week has shown the benefits of a united fan movement that has well-prepared arguments.

The Govt, in the form of Culture Sec Oliver Dowden, was singing from the hymn sheet written by the Football Supporters Association.

The long awaited Fan-led Review has been launched and is led by a proper football supporter.

The Greedy Six have been shamed and chastened.

Folk, now and rightly, are saying we don't just want to return to the status quo before ESL - we want some genuine push back against greed and poor governance in the game. We hope the corner is turned.

Join the FSA - it's free. https://thefsa.org.uk/join/

Join STAR next season - and you will be represented within the FSA.


Really wish the best of luck with this review.

Realistically though, until faces change at the FL, PL, FA and higher there is little to no chance of certain things being given up in certain quarters, without something very major affecting the game itself.

Hope though that said review returns findings and recommendations reasonably quickly and gains support of the vast majority involved in the game.

One of the first things I’d look for is a recommendation for the replacement of FFP with squad salary caps.

15 posts   •   Page 1 of 1

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests

It is currently 11 May 2021 15:06