by weybridgewanderer » 17 Jul 2012 16:59
by .:BigDaveInTheDungeon:. » 17 Jul 2012 18:54
by Royal Rascal » 18 Jul 2012 14:27
by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 18 Jul 2012 15:17
starliaison For instance, the shirt and hoops; every year before the design is decided we stress the need for hoops, but we are not allowed to actually be involved in the decision.
by melonhead » 18 Jul 2012 15:49
by Royal Lady » 18 Jul 2012 15:53
by glenroyal » 18 Jul 2012 15:53
Platypuss For all those advocating change because they feel STAR isn't militant enough sometimes, it's perhaps worth bearing in mind that this is RFC we're talking about. Under Mr Mad's tenure have they ever given the impression that they give much of a stuff about what the "ordinary fan" thinks? This is the plc that gave us "For every yob we get rid of, we gain a family of four".
STAR obviously took the approach that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, and as a result have taken a hit in the credibility stakes with the rank and file. However I'm not convinced there's any viable alternative tbh.
by glenroyal » 18 Jul 2012 16:27
starliaison I would also welcome the chance to let you know exactly what and what is not practical from my experience so far. For instance, the shirt and hoops; every year before the design is decided we stress the need for hoops, but we are not allowed to actually be involved in the decision, so what else would you suggest to get the decision for hoops. Last time they did actually tell us that they get more complaints about not reading the number against hoops than complaints about not having hoops; and giving them the results of our survey helped but it we need the ammunition.
by The Rouge » 18 Jul 2012 17:19
glenroyalstarliaison I would also welcome the chance to let you know exactly what and what is not practical from my experience so far. For instance, the shirt and hoops; every year before the design is decided we stress the need for hoops, but we are not allowed to actually be involved in the decision, so what else would you suggest to get the decision for hoops. Last time they did actually tell us that they get more complaints about not reading the number against hoops than complaints about not having hoops; and giving them the results of our survey helped but it we need the ammunition.
Hi Paula, and picking up on Rouge's comment, I think the focus on "complaints" is not healthy - it's retrospective and reactionary (and as Rouge says - misleading). Subject to resource / time available for such voluntary effort, and recognizing that HNA is not necessarily representative of the whole fan base, surely better to be pro-active. To conduct surveys on proposals / possibilities and provide regular / annual reports to the club. If the info was good, the club would be hard pushed to ignore entirely.
by Jerry St Clair » 18 Jul 2012 17:54
by glenroyal » 18 Jul 2012 17:56
by Pat Butchers Ring » 18 Jul 2012 18:09
by STAR Liaison » 18 Jul 2012 18:55
glenroyalstarliaison I would also welcome the chance to let you know exactly what and what is not practical from my experience so far. For instance, the shirt and hoops; every year before the design is decided we stress the need for hoops, but we are not allowed to actually be involved in the decision, so what else would you suggest to get the decision for hoops. Last time they did actually tell us that they get more complaints about not reading the number against hoops than complaints about not having hoops; and giving them the results of our survey helped but it we need the ammunition.
Hi Paula, and picking up on Rouge's comment, I think the focus on "complaints" is not healthy - it's retrospective and reactionary (and as Rouge says - misleading). Subject to resource / time available for such voluntary effort, and recognizing that HNA is not necessarily representative of the whole fan base, surely better to be pro-active. To conduct surveys on proposals / possibilities and provide regular / annual reports to the club. If the info was good, the club would be hard pushed to ignore entirely.
by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 18 Jul 2012 21:54
Jerry St Clair If the new group took the form of the legendary Reading Drinking Squad of the 1980s, I'd be all for it.
by melonhead » 19 Jul 2012 10:14
Royal Lady I think Reading Fans as a whole would like to think their thoughts were taken into consideration when a new kit is planned.
by RoyalBlue » 19 Jul 2012 13:10
melonheadRoyal Lady I think Reading Fans as a whole would like to think their thoughts were taken into consideration when a new kit is planned.
what if the majority of fans think- as long as its blue and white, im not sure i give a fook?
plus isnt it mainly down to whoever we have a shirt deal with?
by melonhead » 19 Jul 2012 16:35
melonhead if no one bought the shirts, theyd change them
by Royal Biscuitman » 19 Jul 2012 17:23
They'll continue to change them every year regardless.melonhead if no one bought the shirts, theyd change them
by melonhead » 19 Jul 2012 18:21
Royal BiscuitmanThey'll continue to change them every year regardless.melonhead if no one bought the shirts, theyd change them
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