Season Tickets 23/24

[Green]

It is probably only a 250/300ml tea or coffee vs a 600ml bottle of water, so you're not comparing like-for-like.

Works out at about £1.36 if you were to get half as much water, which is cheaper than tea or coffee.

Yeh it's bottled water not out the tap. Whereas tea/coffee will be (then boiled)

[AthleticoSpizz]

When you have players on 10-20 grand a week can’t see what £50 on our season ticket is going to make? As for the club video” I was there “nearly everything on it was at least 10 years ago. I will renew mine out of loyalty, but I would not blame anyone for not renewing given the utter tripe we have had to watch the last 6 years.

for my part in my earlier post, I was referring to the poor fukkahs on little more than national minimum wage (not the players) that now find that their jobs to be at risk.
A few quid on the season tickets might just help prop-up a livelihood or two.
….and yes, I do have a (family) vested interest

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Not for West Ham



Spurs isn't the best example to use either, seeing as they actually have a brewery on-site.

I wonder how many spirit and single mixers they sell

Football crowds aren't just 16-25 years #lads these days SouthDowns, I imagine they shift a fair few.

Biggest rip off there is the bottled coke at £4.10 a pop. Ye gods.

Fair point, but even with the. Changing demographic I still can’t see many being sold, but for them to sell it maybe they do. For that price no point really a single spirit with mixer, May as well have a water.

I agree re the bottled coke I saw that price and though wow weee

[SouthDownsRoyal]

It is probably only a 250/300ml tea or coffee vs a 600ml bottle of water, so you're not comparing like-for-like.

Works out at about £1.36 if you were to get half as much water, which is cheaper than tea or coffee.

Yeh it's bottled water not out the tap. Whereas tea/coffee will be (then boiled)

Tbf bottled water, May as well have tap water. No difference. But obviously if you’re not at home and want water you have no option but to pay mind you.

Do they sell bottles of Peckham spring at Millwall?

Profit margin wise tea much be up there for retailers.

[Snowflake Royal]

It is probably only a 250/300ml tea or coffee vs a 600ml bottle of water, so you're not comparing like-for-like.

Works out at about £1.36 if you were to get half as much water, which is cheaper than tea or coffee.

Yeh it's bottled water not out the tap. Whereas tea/coffee will be (then boiled)

If it was water out the tap it'd be less than 1p

[Royal_jimmy]

It is probably only a 250/300ml tea or coffee vs a 600ml bottle of water, so you're not comparing like-for-like.

Works out at about £1.36 if you were to get half as much water, which is cheaper than tea or coffee.

Yeh it's bottled water not out the tap. Whereas tea/coffee will be (then boiled)

If it was water out the tap it'd be less than 1p

Without sounding like a lefty I think tap water should be free and subsidised by the tax payer. We need air to survive to why should we have so pay for water like we do now

[Clyde1998]

These are the away allocations we'll likely get. Lots of small ones so I expect if anyone wants a chance of a ticket for many of them then they'll need a season ticket. [*Snip*]

I believe I'm right in saying Port Vale are moving their away end next season, reducing the allocation to around 3,000 (IIRC).

Based on the highest away attendance at each ground this season (allocations may be different next season), the adjustments to the maximum allocation we could get at each ground would be (rounded to the nearest 100, with differences greater than 500 shown in red for decreases and green for increases):

1. Barnsley (4,700 → 5,000)
2. Blackpool (2,500 → 3,800)
3. Bolton (5,000 → 5,100)
4. Bradford (2,200)
5. Bristol Rovers (1,100 → 1,300)
6. Burton (1,400 → 1,700)
7. Cambridge (1,600 → 1,500)
8. Carlisle (1,300)
9. Charlton (3,000 → 3,200)
10. Cheltenham (1,100 → 1,500)
11. Derby (2,700 → 3,100)
12. Exeter (1,100 → 1,300)
13. Fleetwood (831 → 1,400)
14. Leyton Orient (1,000 → 1,300)
15. Lincoln (1,000 → 2,100)
16. Northampton (1,200 → 1,400)
17. Oxford (2,000 → 1,500 - seems to be reduced at the moment due to increased segregation)
18. Peterborough (3,000 → 3,900)
19. Port Vale (4,500 → 3,000 - stand change)
20. Portsmouth (2,800 → 1,900 - stand improvements temporarily reducing capacity, not sure when work is set to be completed by)
21. Salford (1,300)
22. Sheff Wed (3,700)
23. Shrewsbury (1,000 → 1,600)
24. Stevenage (1,400)
25. Stockport (1,600)
26. Wigan (5,000 → 4,700)
27. Wycombe (2,000 → 2,600)

Of course the maximum possible allocation and what we'll be given could be very different. Oxford and Portsmouth only giving 1,500 and 1,900 tickets respectively at the moment means demand will definitely far exceed supply for those matches.

Even with the changes, there's still a good ten-to-twelve we'll sell out for next season, with a handful of others that may sell out if we're having a good season. I think it could be our best away following for years next season, even with the sizeable amount of limited allocations in League One.

[Snowflake Royal]

Yeh it's bottled water not out the tap. Whereas tea/coffee will be (then boiled)

If it was water out the tap it'd be less than 1p

Without sounding like a lefty I think tap water should be free and subsidised by the tax payer. We need air to survive to why should we have so pay for water like we do now

No one has to extract air from the environment, clean it and pump it through miles of pipe to your tap. And air is light.

You don't have to be connected to the water grid.

You don't sound like a lefty. I won't say what you do sound like.

[Royal_jimmy]

These are the away allocations we'll likely get. Lots of small ones so I expect if anyone wants a chance of a ticket for many of them then they'll need a season ticket. [*Snip*]

I believe I'm right in saying Port Vale are moving their away end next season, reducing the allocation to around 3,000 (IIRC).

Based on the highest away attendance at each ground this season (allocations may be different next season), the adjustments to the maximum allocation we could get at each ground would be (rounded to the nearest 100, with differences greater than 500 shown in red for decreases and green for increases):

1. Barnsley (4,700 → 5,000)
2. Blackpool (2,500 → 3,800)
3. Bolton (5,000 → 5,100)
4. Bradford (2,200)
5. Bristol Rovers (1,100 → 1,300)
6. Burton (1,400 → 1,700)
7. Cambridge (1,600 → 1,500)
8. Carlisle (1,300)
9. Charlton (3,000 → 3,200)
10. Cheltenham (1,100 → 1,500)
11. Derby (2,700 → 3,100)
12. Exeter (1,100 → 1,300)
13. Fleetwood (831 → 1,400)
14. Leyton Orient (1,000 → 1,300)
15. Lincoln (1,000 → 2,100)
16. Northampton (1,200 → 1,400)
17. Oxford (2,000 → 1,500 - seems to be reduced at the moment due to increased segregation)
18. Peterborough (3,000 → 3,900)
19. Port Vale (4,500 → 3,000 - stand change)
20. Portsmouth (2,800 → 1,900 - stand improvements temporarily reducing capacity, not sure when work is set to be completed by)
21. Salford (1,300)
22. Sheff Wed (3,700)
23. Shrewsbury (1,000 → 1,600)
24. Stevenage (1,400)
25. Stockport (1,600)
26. Wigan (5,000 → 4,700)
27. Wycombe (2,000 → 2,600)

Of course the maximum possible allocation and what we'll be given could be very different. Oxford and Portsmouth only giving 1,500 and 1,900 tickets respectively at the moment means demand will definitely far exceed supply for those matches.

Even with the changes, there's still a good ten-to-twelve we'll sell out for next season, with a handful of others that may sell out if we're having a good season. I think it could be our best away following for years next season, even with the sizeable amount of limited allocations in League One.

Good additions! Thanks

[RG30]

Not sure who from the STAR board thought this statement was a good idea but have to say feels a bit misjudged. Of the ST holders I've spoken to no one was in disagreement with prices rising, especially with the reasons outlined reasonably;

Reading Football Club this week announced prices for Season Tickets ahead of the 2023/24 EFL League One season. Many supporters were dismayed to see prices increase over the prior season despite the drop from The Championship into the third tier of English Football.

We acknowledge that prices have been static for a number of seasons, and that an increase would inevitably be required, but to have it come at this stage when fans have just been delivered the blow of relegation is a difficult situation.

Of great concern is that the announcement is the first major communication from the club since that relegation was confirmed. We have yet to hear from Senior Leadership as to what actions have been taken thus far, and when fans can expect more information on the new manager, how we will be operating as a club going forward, and what to expect for those behind the scenes who may face cutbacks as the club adjusts to life in a lower division.

News that we have seen a great response in terms of sales of new and renewed Season Tickets is of no surprise, as our loyal fanbase will always support this club regardless of which league they find themselves in. It is critical that Reading Football Club understand that this loyalty deserves the respect and consideration to be open and address our circumstances with those fans directly.

Leading with a call to lend financial backing to the club during a tough economic climate for many, while remaining silent on where we stand as regards the owner’s commitment, the process by which we are selecting our new manager and the reality of how the club will operate next season, is thoroughly backwards and does not paint the club in good light.

https://star-reading.org/news/statement-season-ticket-pricing

[Silver Fox]

I can never get my head around people's sense of entitlement regarding being constantly updated by the club, especially when any actual communication is normally met with derision.

[Hendo]

I can never get my head around people's sense of entitlement regarding being constantly updated by the club, especially when any actual communication is normally met with derision.

Agreed.

Club would put out a statement along the lines of: "We're very disappointed in the outcome of the season and we're putting things in place behind the scenes to get back to Championship football at the first attempt"

Fans would just go: "thats just a generic statement, what is the point of saying anything at all. #bowenout #daiout"

[Clyde1998]

Not sure who from the STAR board thought this statement was a good idea but have to say feels a bit misjudged. Of the ST holders I've spoken to no one was in disagreement with prices rising, especially with the reasons outlined reasonably;

https://star-reading.org/news/statement-season-ticket-pricing

I get the feeling a lot of the statements put out are influenced heavily by the view of those on social media. The club's last end of year survey we've got figures for (2015-16; I don't know if there's still a survey like this each season) showed less than half of supporters use any specific social media platform (in any context) - link (page 20).

Those figures may have increased since then, but I'd still guess under 60% use social media and significantly fewer actually comment on a regular basis in regards to the football club. As with all things, people mistake those who shout the loudest or most regularly for the position of everyone rather than trying to identity who is making the comments and how representative they are of the wider group they are apart of; those who are generally content aren't likely to make a comment.

I understand people aren't going to be happy with a price rise for season tickets, but within the context of price freezes for the past decade it's entirely understandable the prices would go up at some point. I think most on here understand that and most reasonable people will understand that.

Also the prices are very acceptable within the context of what other clubs charge at this level: a season ticket in the East Stand is £425 (£400 for renewals) for an adult. The cheapest comparable prices at Portsmouth this season is £424 (£414 renewals) for 'early bird' prices (before mid-June), £450 (£420) at Oxford, £481 (£409) at Cheltenham, £509 (£469) at Bristol Rovers, £425 at Charlton, £468 (£405.60 minimum) at Derby (renewal price based on consecutive years with season ticket). Other stands broadly follow the same pattern.

Our new season ticket prices are cheaper than every side I checked (with the exception of Charlton and Portsmouth - the same and £1 cheaper respectively). Renewal prices were cheaper than anywhere else I checked (with the possible exception of Charlton, where the renewal deadline has already passed - season ticket went of sale in March).

I could understand outrage if season ticket prices increased by £100 (for example), but a £25 increase after a decade of frozen prices is not something anyone should be up in arms about.

[Snowflake Royal]

I can never get my head around people's sense of entitlement regarding being constantly updated by the club, especially when any actual communication is normally met with derision.

Agreed.

Club would put out a statement along the lines of: "We're very disappointed in the outcome of the season and we're putting things in place behind the scenes to get back to Championship football at the first attempt"

Fans would just go: "thats just a generic statement, what is the point of saying anything at all. #bowenout #daiout"

100%.

STAR are just pandering to the whingers here. Or worse, that's who make up STAR.

It's not just a few years, it's about a decade, and we should really have increased our prices at least twice in that time before now.

With the recent huge spike in energy costs and the club's dire financial issues, it's madness not to raise prices, even with relegation.

[Sutekh]

Not sure who from the STAR board thought this statement was a good idea but have to say feels a bit misjudged. Of the ST holders I've spoken to no one was in disagreement with prices rising, especially with the reasons outlined reasonably;

https://star-reading.org/news/statement-season-ticket-pricing

I get the feeling a lot of the statements put out are influenced heavily by the view of those on social media. The club's last end of year survey we've got figures for (2015-16; I don't know if there's still a survey like this each season) showed less than half of supporters use any specific social media platform (in any context) - link (page 20).

Those figures may have increased since then, but I'd still guess under 60% use social media and significantly fewer actually comment on a regular basis in regards to the football club. As with all things, people mistake those who shout the loudest or most regularly for the position of everyone rather than trying to identity who is making the comments and how representative they are of the wider group they are apart of; those who are generally content aren't likely to make a comment.

I understand people aren't going to be happy with a price rise for season tickets, but within the context of price freezes for the past decade it's entirely understandable the prices would go up at some point. I think most on here understand that and most reasonable people will understand that.

Also the prices are very acceptable within the context of what other clubs charge at this level: a season ticket in the East Stand is £425 (£400 for renewals) for an adult. The cheapest comparable prices at Portsmouth this season is £424 (£414 renewals) for 'early bird' prices (before mid-June), £450 (£420) at Oxford, £481 (£409) at Cheltenham, £509 (£469) at Bristol Rovers, £425 at Charlton, £468 (£405.60 minimum) at Derby (renewal price based on consecutive years with season ticket). Other stands broadly follow the same pattern.

Our new season ticket prices are cheaper than every side I checked (with the exception of Charlton and Portsmouth - the same and £1 cheaper respectively). Renewal prices were cheaper than anywhere else I checked (with the possible exception of Charlton, where the renewal deadline has already passed - season ticket went of sale in March).

I could understand outrage if season ticket prices increased by £100 (for example), but a £25 increase after a decade of frozen prices is not something anyone should be up in arms about.

Agreed. My issue is more with the hypocrisy of match day prices with the club supposedly signing up to £20's plenty then charging adults £27-£30 for home match day tickets.

[Royal_jimmy]

I can never get my head around people's sense of entitlement regarding being constantly updated by the club, especially when any actual communication is normally met with derision.

Agreed.

Club would put out a statement along the lines of: "We're very disappointed in the outcome of the season and we're putting things in place behind the scenes to get back to Championship football at the first attempt"

Fans would just go: "thats just a generic statement, what is the point of saying anything at all. #bowenout #daiout"

This is what I've been calling for as well yet I get slated for it. A statement of some kind is appropriate and maybe shows the ownership is changing its ways.

[Ascotexgunner]

I can never get my head around people's sense of entitlement regarding being constantly updated by the club, especially when any actual communication is normally met with derision.

Agreed.

Club would put out a statement along the lines of: "We're very disappointed in the outcome of the season and we're putting things in place behind the scenes to get back to Championship football at the first attempt"

Fans would just go: "thats just a generic statement, what is the point of saying anything at all. #bowenout #daiout"

This is what I've been calling for as well yet I get slated for it. A statement of some kind is appropriate and maybe shows the ownership is changing its ways.

Chris Wilder as manager would be a statement to me..... please let it happen.

[Snowflake Royal]

Not sure who from the STAR board thought this statement was a good idea but have to say feels a bit misjudged. Of the ST holders I've spoken to no one was in disagreement with prices rising, especially with the reasons outlined reasonably;

https://star-reading.org/news/statement-season-ticket-pricing

I get the feeling a lot of the statements put out are influenced heavily by the view of those on social media. The club's last end of year survey we've got figures for (2015-16; I don't know if there's still a survey like this each season) showed less than half of supporters use any specific social media platform (in any context) - link (page 20).

Those figures may have increased since then, but I'd still guess under 60% use social media and significantly fewer actually comment on a regular basis in regards to the football club. As with all things, people mistake those who shout the loudest or most regularly for the position of everyone rather than trying to identity who is making the comments and how representative they are of the wider group they are apart of; those who are generally content aren't likely to make a comment.

I understand people aren't going to be happy with a price rise for season tickets, but within the context of price freezes for the past decade it's entirely understandable the prices would go up at some point. I think most on here understand that and most reasonable people will understand that.

Also the prices are very acceptable within the context of what other clubs charge at this level: a season ticket in the East Stand is £425 (£400 for renewals) for an adult. The cheapest comparable prices at Portsmouth this season is £424 (£414 renewals) for 'early bird' prices (before mid-June), £450 (£420) at Oxford, £481 (£409) at Cheltenham, £509 (£469) at Bristol Rovers, £425 at Charlton, £468 (£405.60 minimum) at Derby (renewal price based on consecutive years with season ticket). Other stands broadly follow the same pattern.

Our new season ticket prices are cheaper than every side I checked (with the exception of Charlton and Portsmouth - the same and £1 cheaper respectively). Renewal prices were cheaper than anywhere else I checked (with the possible exception of Charlton, where the renewal deadline has already passed - season ticket went of sale in March).

I could understand outrage if season ticket prices increased by £100 (for example), but a £25 increase after a decade of frozen prices is not something anyone should be up in arms about.

Agreed. My issue is more with the hypocrisy of match day prices with the club supposedly signing up to £20's plenty then charging adults £27-£30 for home match day tickets.

Nothing to say we can't charge less for clubs who agree to reciprocate 20s plenty.

[paultheroyal]

These are the away allocations we'll likely get. Lots of small ones so I expect if anyone wants a chance of a ticket for many of them then they'll need a season ticket. [*Snip*]

I believe I'm right in saying Port Vale are moving their away end next season, reducing the allocation to around 3,000 (IIRC).

Based on the highest away attendance at each ground this season (allocations may be different next season), the adjustments to the maximum allocation we could get at each ground would be (rounded to the nearest 100, with differences greater than 500 shown in red for decreases and green for increases):

1. Barnsley (4,700 → 5,000)
2. Blackpool (2,500 → 3,800)
3. Bolton (5,000 → 5,100)
4. Bradford (2,200)
5. Bristol Rovers (1,100 → 1,300)
6. Burton (1,400 → 1,700)
7. Cambridge (1,600 → 1,500)
8. Carlisle (1,300)
9. Charlton (3,000 → 3,200)
10. Cheltenham (1,100 → 1,500)
11. Derby (2,700 → 3,100)
12. Exeter (1,100 → 1,300)
13. Fleetwood (831 → 1,400)
14. Leyton Orient (1,000 → 1,300)
15. Lincoln (1,000 → 2,100)
16. Northampton (1,200 → 1,400)
17. Oxford (2,000 → 1,500 - seems to be reduced at the moment due to increased segregation)
18. Peterborough (3,000 → 3,900)
19. Port Vale (4,500 → 3,000 - stand change)
20. Portsmouth (2,800 → 1,900 - stand improvements temporarily reducing capacity, not sure when work is set to be completed by)
21. Salford (1,300)
22. Sheff Wed (3,700)
23. Shrewsbury (1,000 → 1,600)
24. Stevenage (1,400)
25. Stockport (1,600)
26. Wigan (5,000 → 4,700)
27. Wycombe (2,000 → 2,600)

Of course the maximum possible allocation and what we'll be given could be very different. Oxford and Portsmouth only giving 1,500 and 1,900 tickets respectively at the moment means demand will definitely far exceed supply for those matches.

Even with the changes, there's still a good ten-to-twelve we'll sell out for next season, with a handful of others that may sell out if we're having a good season. I think it could be our best away following for years next season, even with the sizeable amount of limited allocations in League One.

Great info, great post - thank you.

[Clyde1998]

Apparently season ticket sales are up 16.1% YOY: https://twitter.com/ReadingFC/status/16 ... 2405043203