England - the future....

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Re: England - the future....

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Sep 2025 13:20

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BRO_BOT 82 Greenwood: Germany, they made the final; we went out 2nd group stage
86 Robson: Argentina, winners; QF
90 Robson: Germany, winners; SF
98 Hoddle: Argentina, QF; 2nd round
02 Keegan: Brazil, winners; QF
06 Erikson: Portugal, SF; QF
10 Capello: Germany, SF; 2nd round
14 Hodgson: LOL
22 Southgate: France, final; QF

The Euro comps in the 80s and 90s make grim reading for England, tbf to Southgate, at least he navigated the group stage.

04 Erikson: Portugal, final; QF
08 McClaren LOL
12 Capello: Italy, final; QF
16 Hodgson: LOL


I think 08 through to 16 is a special kind of suck. Players were good, we'd been solid recently and yet ...

PS 2012 was Hodgson, Capello resigned in February that year.

We usually got defeated by a higher-ranked (or host nation) team that then made it to at least the semi-final.


That is typically what happens when you lose a quarter-final, yes.

Smirk. :)

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Re: England - the future....

by bcubed » 21 Sep 2025 19:01

stealthpapes In Friendlies/Qualifying, Kane has played 9 games vs those teams and scored 6 - this is close to his overall scoring rate for England
In Nations League, Kane has played 11 games and scored 3
In Major Competitions, Kane has played 8 games and scored 2

So, yeah, against better teams when things matter, he does appear to score less.

The only country I think I've missed that could matter is Belgium (5 games but 2 he didn't play in, the other 3 a WC play off, 2 Nations League)


Cheers
Certainly chimes with my gut feeling.

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