England - the future....

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Re: England - the future....

by Four Of Clubs » 18 Nov 2023 23:28

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Being played in Indonesia until 2 December 2023

England v Brazil is on Friday 17 November 12:00 k.o. (Indonesia local time).

The 6 group winners and runners up plus the 4 best 3rd placed sides will progress ....


[Under-17 World Cup]

L1-2 to Brazil but topped the group - now face Uzbekistan on Wed AM (08:30 GMT) in last 16 - they were 3rd placed from Gp B behind Spain and Mali.

Other Gp winners were : Morocco, France, Argentina & Germany
Runners-up were : Ecuador Brazil Senegal USA and Mexico

The other three 3rd placed sides making up the Round of 16, which starts Monday - Japan, Venezuela & Iran

Quarter Finals are Friday Saturday with the Semis on Tue 28th. Final mid-day Sat 2nd

...all games seem to be shown on FIFA+ whaever that is? Some downloadable app thingy praps? :mrgreen:

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Re: England - the future....

by Sutekh » 19 Nov 2023 11:20

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Being played in Indonesia until 2 December 2023

England v Brazil is on Friday 17 November 12:00 k.o. (Indonesia local time).

The 6 group winners and runners up plus the 4 best 3rd placed sides will progress ....


[Under-17 World Cup]

L1-2 to Brazil but topped the group - now face Uzbekistan on Wed AM (08:30 GMT) in last 16 - they were 3rd placed from Gp B behind Spain and Mali.

Other Gp winners were : Morocco, France, Argentina & Germany
Runners-up were : Ecuador Brazil Senegal USA and Mexico

The other three 3rd placed sides making up the Round of 16, which starts Monday - Japan, Venezuela & Iran

Quarter Finals are Friday Saturday with the Semis on Tue 28th. Final mid-day Sat 2nd

...all games seem to be shown on FIFA+ whaever that is? Some downloadable app thingy praps? :mrgreen:


If England get past Uzbekistan they then face the winners of France v Senegal in the QFs next Saturday (25th) morning and the winners of that game will get one of Mali, Iran, Morocco or Mexico in the semis on 28th November.

FIFA+ is available via the FIFA website. Think it's free for these games...

FIFA+ marketing spiel and link to FIFA+ on FIFA's site below.

https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/organis ... everywhere
https://www.plus.fifa.com/en/?gl=gb

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Re: England - the future....

by Franchise FC » 19 Nov 2023 12:14

Sutekh Well that was a dreary less than convincing pile of poo against 171st ranked Malta.

I’ve been a long time supporter of Henderson, but time’s up
The speed of movement was just appalling and simply upping the tempo would easily have been enough for a more convincing win

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Re: England - the future....

by Sutekh » 19 Nov 2023 18:12

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Sutekh Well that was a dreary less than convincing pile of poo against 171st ranked Malta.

I’ve been a long time supporter of Henderson, but time’s up
The speed of movement was just appalling and simply upping the tempo would easily have been enough for a more convincing win


Lucky Southgate was there to remedy that as soon as it was apparent.

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Re: England - the future....

by Sanguine » 20 Nov 2023 10:12

Obviously if the cnut wasn't in charge, we'd have definitely beaten Malta 7-0 and won both home and away against Italy in the last six months.


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Re: England - the future....

by Sanguine » 20 Nov 2023 10:21

Something I just spotted, that I had missed, is that since March, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink has been working as a coach with the England side.

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Re: England - the future....

by NathStPaul » 20 Nov 2023 11:35

Sanguine Something I just spotted, that I had missed, is that since March, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink has been working as a coach with the England side.

I like Jimmy, see him quite a lot on Super Sunday or Monday night football. Seems like a positive character.

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Re: England - the future....

by Whore Jackie » 20 Nov 2023 12:42

Jimmy basically replaced Chris Powell. Who's now assistant manager at Sheffield Wednesday.

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Re: England - the future....

by bcubed » 20 Nov 2023 20:29

Dion Dublin just made a complete fool of himself with that penalty decision. "Nothing there. Just jumped up. Hand in his face but it is a contact sport. What is he supposed to do?"

Whilst my view is that shouldn't be a penalty, I've seen enough games since the 80s (!) to know that gets given, sometimes

Poor effort Dion


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Re: England - the future....

by Orion1871 » 20 Nov 2023 20:34

bcubed Dion Dublin just made a complete fool of himself with that penalty decision. "Nothing there. Just jumped up. Hand in his face but it is a contact sport. What is he supposed to do?"

Whilst my view is that shouldn't be a penalty, I've seen enough games since the 80s (!) to know that gets given, sometimes

Poor effort Dion


That's not unusual.

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Re: England - the future....

by bcubed » 20 Nov 2023 20:36

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bcubed Dion Dublin just made a complete fool of himself with that penalty decision. "Nothing there. Just jumped up. Hand in his face but it is a contact sport. What is he supposed to do?"

Whilst my view is that shouldn't be a penalty, I've seen enough games since the 80s (!) to know that gets given, sometimes

Poor effort Dion


That's not unusual.


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Re: England - the future....

by 6ft Kerplunk » 20 Nov 2023 20:40

They should have had a penalty for Maguire bundling over a player not the Lewis one. We've been dreadful. Saka always cuts back on his left foot to try and get to the corner of the box to shoot. Grealish always slows down play so defenders get back into position and then passes backwards. It's just too predictable to defend against.

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Re: England - the future....

by WestYorksRoyal » 20 Nov 2023 21:30

If this was a meaningful game, we'd be livid with the refereeing.


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Re: England - the future....

by Orion1871 » 20 Nov 2023 21:42

The ref has been atrocious, but the commentary has been worse.

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Re: England - the future....

by Royal Rother » 20 Nov 2023 21:46

I’m not sure what worse - Dion Dublin’s constant drivel, the referee, or Rashford’s cameo.

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Re: England - the future....

by LUX » 20 Nov 2023 22:25

I quite like Dublin’s puppy- like enthusiasm.

But let’s face it, there are very few enjoyable, knowledgeable and eloquent pundits in football.

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Re: England - the future....

by WestYorksRoyal » 20 Nov 2023 22:31

Dion is biased and blindly optimistic about every situation. Great entertainment, like watching alongside your clueless mate at the pub.

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Re: England - the future....

by Royal Rother » 21 Nov 2023 02:46

He both praises and criticises at the wrong time which is some achievement.

And he speaks more than the actual commentator.

Stick him in the jungle and after 24 hours the campmates would be screaming “FTLOG IACGMOOH!!”

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Re: England - the future....

by Franchise FC » 21 Nov 2023 08:52

Royal Rother I’m not sure what worse - Dion Dublin’s constant drivel, the referee, or Rashford’s cameo.

One particular Rashford effort of note
Receives the ball tight to the left hand touchline ….. and turns left

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Re: England - the future....

by Sanguine » 21 Nov 2023 09:00

A poor week, but it is what it is. We are only a few weeks removed from beating Italy. Again.

Guehi was excellent. I've only seen clips of Bobby Moore, but there is something very Moore-like about the way he moves with the ball. Glides, almost as if there is no-one else on the pitch.

Not much else to say. Just five shots on target in 180 minutes against two poor sides is a bit weird. Equally North Macedonia also got a draw with Italy, and Ukraine came back from two goals down. Maybe they are just decent at home.

We move on. Will be one of the top seeds for the group stage draw, which is on 2nd December. Italy, Netherlands and Serbia will be waiting in pots 3 or 4 ready to be part of a 'group of death'.

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