Which game will you watch tonight?

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by Sanguine » 25 Jun 2014 13:17

You don't let Broadmoor patients out just because they don't really mean to do it.

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by Pepe the Horseman » 25 Jun 2014 13:20

Yes I do.

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by soggy biscuit » 25 Jun 2014 13:53

Pepe the Horseman So we should be trying to help him, not punish him.


Would be pretty disappointed if both were not done tbh. All this talk of 1-2 year ban is mental. Just ban him like he was before, maybe an international tournament too, and then make him seek professional help.

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by Whatevs » 25 Jun 2014 14:23

if i was in full on fight mode i'd defo start biting and scratching

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by jd82 » 25 Jun 2014 14:30

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Pepe the Horseman So we should be trying to help him, not punish him.


Would be pretty disappointed if both were not done tbh. All this talk of 1-2 year ban is mental. Just ban him like he was before, maybe an international tournament too, and then make him seek professional help.


Although I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you...

I didn't see anyone suggesting Ben Thatcher should get help after his forearm smash on Mendes, or that Joey Barton should get help for continually being a oxf*rd etc etc. Why is Suarez's lack of control being treated as mental health whereas anyone else's gets them condemned as a thug?


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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by Pepe the Horseman » 25 Jun 2014 14:40

Whatevs if i was in full on fight mode i'd defo start biting and scratching

Hamster style.

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by soggy biscuit » 25 Jun 2014 14:51

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Pepe the Horseman So we should be trying to help him, not punish him.


Would be pretty disappointed if both were not done tbh. All this talk of 1-2 year ban is mental. Just ban him like he was before, maybe an international tournament too, and then make him seek professional help.


Although I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you...

I didn't see anyone suggesting Ben Thatcher should get help after his forearm smash on Mendes, or that Joey Barton should get help for continually being a oxf*rd etc etc. Why is Suarez's lack of control being treated as mental health whereas anyone else's gets them condemned as a thug?


Its a fair point I suppose. I guess I am basing it around assumpions that Suarez was not in control and Thachers forearm hit was premeditated.

Easy assumptions to reach though when one is something you see people do premeditated quite a bit (though not on the pitch) and the other is so unusual it looks weird and bizarre to watch

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by daswonder » 25 Jun 2014 14:54

You would think given this isn't even the 2nd occasion that Suarez has presumed to have bitten someone, why hasn't he sort help after the 1st or 2nd incident and if he has and he is still suffering then why is he allow to continue pursue a career in something that sees him do this?

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by philM » 25 Jun 2014 15:08

When Mike Tyson proved to be a biter he got a £3m fine and lost his license for a year. Seems fair. If he had gone on to bite another two people I'm sure he wouldn't have been boxing after that.

Maybe Suarez should find an alternative career. He's had counselling at Liverpool and it hasn't changed him. In the heat of the red-mist moment he bites, and stamps on opponents. I don't see how that will ever change. Maybe he's just not cut out to have a job that involves physically sparring with others in a high pressure situation with tightly defined rules. Most councellors would surely recommend avoiding the triggers that cause the problem.

What happens on the 4th biting incident? Or the 5th?

At some point I can see him getting a life ban.


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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by melonhead » 25 Jun 2014 15:38

Sanguine You don't let Broadmoor patients out just because they don't really mean to do it.


biting people isnt really enough to get you into broadmoor

you'd probably go to some local non secure unit instead.

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by Green » 25 Jun 2014 16:14

Pepe the Horseman Yes I do.

So the lunatics in charge of the asylum again. Why does this keep happening :?:

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by Bandini » 25 Jun 2014 17:12

soggy biscuit
Its a fair point I suppose. I guess I am basing it around assumpions that Suarez was not in control and Thachers forearm hit was premeditated.

Easy assumptions to reach though when one is something you see people do premeditated quite a bit (though not on the pitch) and the other is so unusual it looks weird and bizarre to watch


Bearing in mind (a) that it was 0-0 at the time and (b) that he dived, I thought it was a premedit8d attempt to provoke a reaction to allow him to dive for a penalty

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by PieEater » 25 Jun 2014 21:49

Win at any cost.


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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by Ouroboros » 25 Jun 2014 21:52

Bandini Bearing in mind (a) that it was 0-0 at the time and (b) that he dived, I thought it was a premedit8d attempt to provoke a reaction to allow him to dive for a penalty


Were the first two bites of his career also premeditated? You would have though by now he might have given up on this strategy.

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by Avon Royal » 25 Jun 2014 21:55

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They won't do that. Liverpool would sue their arses off.


Then Liverpool would get their arses handed to them in court.

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by sandman » 26 Jun 2014 00:21

Pepe the Horseman So we should be trying to help him, not punish him.


If he needs help then idiots like his national team captain and his Lawyer need to stop excusing his behaviour and be the ones to start doing something to help him.

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by Royalclapper » 26 Jun 2014 13:05

This story from Uruguayan newspaper Subrayado suggesting some high-ups from S.American football are also pressuring FIFA to be lenient with it's decision, not just the Uruguayan officials. Some of the explanations/defence of his actions are priceless when you translate it, especially the last paragraph "No convincing evidence" :roll: :lol: Loads of amusing anti-England stuff going down elsewhere in there 'English Pirates' :lol:

http://www.subrayado.com.uy/Site/notici ... aso-suarez

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by BR2 » 26 Jun 2014 14:03

Anybody know to what extent this minor incident has been reported elsewhere other than in Italy where they are looking at excuses for their own failure and (amazingly) thought that the sending-off of their player was harsh.

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by tulip » 26 Jun 2014 14:12

BR2 Anybody know to what extent this minor incident has been reported elsewhere other than in Italy where they are looking at excuses for their own failure and (amazingly) thought that the sending-off of their player was harsh.


Certainly been front page news in Holland. He has previous here.

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Re: Which game will you watch tonight?

by Ouroboros » 26 Jun 2014 14:15

The front-page headline in O Globo, Spain, was "El Loco."

And there is a piece on the Brazilian press reaction here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... es-3761333

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