by Zammo » 19 Jun 2018 11:27
ScutterbucketzStrandedScutterbucketz Get carried away in every good place you find yourself in. Let your mind soar and your heart race. England will win this World Cup. And until they don’t in 10 days time I’m gonna enjoy it. I love supporting England. Right up until they kick a ball.
And fair play to those lads losing their minds in town. I had a few nights like that myself many many years ago.
Reminded me of Euro 96 when about 10 of us closed Gun Street for 10 mins drunkenly dancing in the street after the Spain game.
Yes, I nearly got arrested for stealing a cardboard Alan Shearer from behind the counter at McDonalds and then parading around the town. Made the EPo though
Just saw a video of the police crackdown on Friar Street last night. Seemed a bit OTT.
by Sanguine » 19 Jun 2018 11:46
genomeSanguinegenome It's been used very well at times (Sweden, Peru etc) and other refs have got it very wrong.
Either way, it's not fit for purpose yet and certainly shouldn't be being used at a World Cup.
There have been incidents reviewed and corrected with VAR that otherwise would not have been. Why is that not good?
It's also missed things. It's the most prestigious competition in the world, it shouldn't be being trialled.
by Sanguine » 19 Jun 2018 11:49
by genome » 19 Jun 2018 12:03
SanguinegenomeSanguine
There have been incidents reviewed and corrected with VAR that otherwise would not have been. Why is that not good?
It's also missed things. It's the most prestigious competition in the world, it shouldn't be being trialled.
But those things would have been missed without VAR too.
by Sanguine » 19 Jun 2018 12:07
genome
Not particularly, there have been some decisions being referred that are highly debatable - the French penalty against Australia, for example. That overturn changed the outcome of the game.
Referees should be confident enough to use the technology correctly as close to 100% of the time as possible. That comes with use, ironing out the issues. At the moment it seems to be either correct, incorrect or debatable. It's not ready for such a competition.
by genome » 19 Jun 2018 12:11
Sanguinegenome
Not particularly, there have been some decisions being referred that are highly debatable - the French penalty against Australia, for example. That overturn changed the outcome of the game.
Referees should be confident enough to use the technology correctly as close to 100% of the time as possible. That comes with use, ironing out the issues. At the moment it seems to be either correct, incorrect or debatable. It's not ready for such a competition.
Definite trip + no evidence on replays that Ridson got the ball first = penalty. Another tick for VAR.
by Sanguine » 19 Jun 2018 12:13
genome
And many would debate that with you.
by genome » 19 Jun 2018 12:19
Sanguine The problem with VAR at this World Cup has been it not being used when it should have been, not in the use of it when it has.
by Sanguine » 19 Jun 2018 12:21
Old Man Andrews Your debate is exactly why VAR shouldn't be used in penalty situations.
SanguineOld Man Andrews Your debate is exactly why VAR shouldn't be used in penalty situations.
Because some people are stupid?
For an example of why it shouldn't be used, it's Lovren's 'foul' in the Spurs (?) game last season.
There's nothing to debate on the France penalty.
by Stranded » 19 Jun 2018 12:25
Sanguine
The problem with VAR at this World Cup has been it not being used when it should have been, not in the use of it when it has.
by John Madejski's Wallet » 19 Jun 2018 12:27
SanguineJohn Madejski's Wallet Still not convinced by VAR or that it will ever "be used properly"
So far we've 'gained' 2-3 pens that were slight enough that had they not been given the teams would have been miffed but not outraged (i.e. they weren't outrageous howlers from the ref not to give them)
.....and we've had at least 3 nailed-on, blatant pens not given
So what are we getting out of it?
We've apparently gained the ability to pretend that Sweden's penalty against Korea, given by VAR, wasn't a definite foul that the referee missed.
by genome » 19 Jun 2018 12:32
by John Madejski's Wallet » 19 Jun 2018 12:36
by Greatwesternline » 19 Jun 2018 12:43
by Stranded » 19 Jun 2018 12:48
genome Yeah, that's my point. VAR is meant to stop the officials from missing stuff so teams aren't hard done by, it's still happening except now we've got annoying breaks in play to go with it.
by BR0B0T » 19 Jun 2018 12:53
Greatwesternline What happens if in the video of Kane being rugby tackled you can see and England player fouling a Tunisian player.
Which foul comes first?
by BR0B0T » 19 Jun 2018 12:57
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