Blackburn / Venky's

[Terminal Boardom]

Probably right on all counts there but I could just about see a struggling Championship club taking a chance on him mid season.

Thing is though, he does appear to be a pretty low-key unassuming bloke who won't live a flashy lifestyle and this year or so (+ severance package) will quite possibly have set him up for the rest of his life.

He'll have paid an emotional price but probably worth it if he comes out of it with a 7 figure bank balance - which isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

Shades of BMcD...

[southbank1871]

I take it Terry Connor has your full support

Nah, TC’s ruined it for the rest of us by being so completely shit.

[FiNeRaIn]

Kean is fighting on! he loves it....

[Wimb]

Good fans POV on why people should cut the 'Kean Out' brigade some slack

http://www.regista-blog.com/2012/05/bla ... E2%80%99s/

Is it not enough that clubs are already bought and sold internationally like any other commodity? Now you’re just expected to put up and shut up when a new regime arrives and oxf*rd up your club. The Blackburn fans had a right to know why Sam Allardyce was fired and replaced with a woefully inexperienced manager who has overseen a disastrous campaign. They could see this coming.

Somewhat sympathise here. People are quick to slag off Pompy fans for not questioning anything about previous ownership yet when questions are asked (and then unanswered) by Venky's the fans are painted the bad guys for not blindly following.

[bassavage]

I think the fans criticsim of Kean was harsh and it clearly didn't help the team in any way. Had they given their full backing then who knows? It would have taken 3 more wins over the whole season to stay up. Having said that 13 wins from 58 in the league since he took over simply isn't good enough. It must be almost impossible for him to be able to stay there next season, the fans are going to want promotion, they clearly aren't good enough for that at this moment in time and a poor start and it wouldn't surprise me to see them in the bottom third of the Championship next campaign.

As for the Yak, anyone else like to see him at the Mad Stad next year?

[6ft Kerplunk]

Kean is fighting on! he loves it....

Quit = get nothing
Get sacked = paid up contract

[Wimb]

I think the fans criticsim of Kean was harsh and it clearly didn't help the team in any way. Had they given their full backing then who knows? It would have taken 3 more wins over the whole season to stay up. Having said that 13 wins from 58 in the league since he took over simply isn't good enough. It must be almost impossible for him to be able to stay there next season, the fans are going to want promotion, they clearly aren't good enough for that at this moment in time and a poor start and it wouldn't surprise me to see them in the bottom third of the Championship next campaign.

As for the Yak, anyone else like to see him at the Mad Stad next year?

Depends if it's the Yak that scores hat-tricks or the Yak that turned up for Leicester and looked useless

[Mr Angry]

Personally I'm sad that Blackburn got relegated; its an excellent away trip and the Venky's would have continued their ridiculous management of the club which would have meant that they would have been likely to have struggled next season as well.

[BR2]

Normally I don't buy into the stuff about fans being worth a goal start etc. (all that pre-match talk about how 50,000 shouting Geordies would make all the difference in sunday's game v City hardly proves the case) but I think it can definitely work the other way.
Blackburn players have had to put up with general booing for most of this season as has the manager so the "football experience" must have been naff for everybody and in the circumstances I think most decent people will have some sympathy for Steve Kean and as RR said quite how he hasn't cracked says much for his personal mental strength.
Amongst all of this nobody has said much about Blackburn losing (maybe Kean's fault,maybe not)two very good centre-backs in Nelson and Samba plus the promising Phil Jones pre-season to Man Utd-surely that has impacted on their season when he hasn't had the money to replace them.
Imagine say Everton losing Jagielka,Distin and Heltiga or City losing Kompany,Lescott and Richards,it would make a major difference.

A smallish club that have often punched above their weight even before Jack Walker's millions and they may struggle to get back up and will spend some time at the lower level (with or without Kean)just like Forest,Coventry,Derby and the two Sheffields,all with long histories at the higher level.

[Royal Rother]

Good fans POV on why people should cut the 'Kean Out' brigade some slack

http://www.regista-blog.com/2012/05/bla ... E2%80%99s/

Is it not enough that clubs are already bought and sold internationally like any other commodity? Now you’re just expected to put up and shut up when a new regime arrives and oxf*rd up your club. The Blackburn fans had a right to know why Sam Allardyce was fired and replaced with a woefully inexperienced manager who has overseen a disastrous campaign. They could see this coming.

Somewhat sympathise here. People are quick to slag off Pompy fans for not questioning anything about previous ownership yet when questions are asked (and then unanswered) by Venky's the fans are painted the bad guys for not blindly following.

I really don't think it's the anti-Venkys campaign that gets up people's noses it's the vitriol directed at the hapless, seemingly out-of-his-depth bloke left to carry the can.

When a manager needs bodyguards when he's out and about to protect himself from his own team's fans then there is something very wrong.

[Maguire]

I also think Steve Kean is hard to dislike and agree with whoever pointed out that just manning up through all the abuse and waiting for a severance package will probably see him made for the rest of his life.

I'm sure he can find employment in football again aswell, albeit possibly not as a manager.

[FiNeRaIn]

IN for a steve kean autobiography.

[RG30]

For 18 months, their football club has been run into the ground and they have had to pay for the privilege of watching it happen. No one listened when they said that it would end in tears, no one believed them when they said their manager was hopelessly out of his depth. Then when relegation finally came, people said they were disgraceful for getting all upset about it. Who’d be a Blackburn Rovers fan?

Venky’s have treated those supporters in much the same way that they treat their chickens. They’ve kept them in the dark, ignored their clucking protestations and doomed them to a messy end. Let me count the ways they failed. Their first error was employing an agent, Jerome Anderson, to advise on football matters. Experienced manager Sam Allardyce was quickly sacked, allegedly for not being enthusiastic enough about Anderson’s clients. He was replaced by a rookie, someone who was far more enthusiastic about Anderson’s clients, mainly because he himself was one of them. And Steve Kean wasn’t the only horse from the Anderson stable to get a run-out. John Jensen arrived to take up the assistant manager job. On merit, I’m sure. The problem with getting an agent to look after recruitment is that the more cynically minded might suggest that vested interests were at work. Fortunately, Anderson emphatically allayed those fears by signing… erm… his own son, Myles. He still hasn’t played a single game.

Venky’s have been a disaster. From their space cadet ambition of finishing “fourth or fifth”, as if there wasn’t much difference between the two, to their bold claim that, “if we need to spend £5million, we’ll spend £5million” they have turned the club into a laughing stock. But the giggles ended abruptly last December when Barclays were forced to order them to deposit double that amount into their account just to cover the wage bill. It’s one thing not to invest; it’s another to barely cover costs. And then there’s the rumour, well-placed and multi-sourced, that they were unaware of the concept of relegation. It might not be true, but it’s a measure of their incompetence that you can’t be sure.

The much-maligned Kean, as I said here at Christmas, isn’t the biggest problem at Blackburn, but he isn’t very far down the list. He has won just 13 league games in 18 months. Wigan have won six since the end of March. Kean appears to live on a different existential plane to the rest of us, some kind of pink-clouded nirvana of rainbows and sugarplums, Ronaldinho and impending Champions League football. The fact that he hasn’t immediately cleared his desk and walked away to think about what he’s done is staggering. What would constitute resignation form in Kean’s world?

Sure, his dignity under fire was commendable, and there can be no justification for the death threats and promises of physical violence that he received, but he would have had a far quieter life if he was actually any good at his job. His selections have been confusing, his tactics have been worse and the sight of his imperilled players failing to muster a shot of any kind against Tottenham last weekend will live long in the memory for Blackburn fans.

Those fans, of course, realised all of this long ago. You can blame them for focusing their firepower on Kean instead of Venky’s, but given that the owners hardly ever turned up to a game, they’d have had to shout pretty loud for them to notice. They’ve been blamed for protesting during matches and not supporting their team, but what were they supposed to do? Don the face paints, hold a party in the top tier, link hands, sing “Kumbaya” and then throw a tantrum when everyone had gone? What would have been the point of that? They’re livid and they’ve got every right to show their fury.

Manchester United fans can sow discontent with green and gold scarves and everyone applauds. Liverpool fans can shout “get out of our club” at their ruinous owners and chant for the return of Kenny Dalglish and everyone salutes their pluck. But when Blackburn supporters rage and roar against the usurpers who seek to annihilate their football club, they’re a disgrace? There are double standards at work here.

Venky’s are a shambles, a plague of stupidity visited upon a team that needed to box clever. The Premier League are a disgrace for allowing yet another club to be savaged by morons. The hapless Kean should never have been given the job in the first place, let alone been allowed to keep it for 18 months. Of all the parties involved, the supporters are the only ones who are innocent. They don’t deserve our contempt. They deserve our sympathy

http://www.lifesapitch.co.uk/opinions/blackburn-fans-were-right-about-venkys-and-kean-all-along/

[FiNeRaIn]

yep, venkys have destroyed their club and sentenced them to years of insecurity and troubles, steve kean the joker there to face it all lol

not sure when we'll see blackburn in the prem again

[winchester_royal]

Odd article, on the one hand he states how the death threats from the fans are inexcusable, and then goes on to say how they're totally 'innocent'

Plus, there is a huge difference between the way Man Utd and Liverpool conducted their protests to the way in which the Blackburn fans have. Indeed comparing gold&green scarves to shouting abuse towards the manager all game is quite ridiculous and totally undermines his argument.

[Royal Rother]

Indeed, it's well-written bullshit.

[floyd__streete]

has been dealt an appaling hand this year that he has somehow dealt with in the face of ridiculous abuse from the most retarded fans in the world*

How has he been dealt an appaling hand? He has been promoted into a job way beyind his capabilities having never managed anywhere near that level before, his win ratio is appaling, he has taken a midtable club steadily downhill over 18 months in charge and you saw yesterday just how lame they are. Hands tied perhaps? Well, he could always quit if he felt that his position was untenable.....but see above the links between his agent and Venkys.

Dodgy. As. F*ck.

[PieEater]

It makes you wonder who they expected to pick up the tab if not the Venkys. Some other mug who'll "invest" £10m periodically just to keep them afloat?

[floyd__streete]

Those fans, of course, realised all of this long ago. You can blame them for focusing their firepower on Kean instead of Venky’s, but given that the owners hardly ever turned up to a game, they’d have had to shout pretty loud for them to notice. They’ve been blamed for protesting during matches and not supporting their team, but what were they supposed to do? Don the face paints, hold a party in the top tier, link hands, sing “Kumbaya” and then throw a tantrum when everyone had gone? What would have been the point of that? They’re livid and they’ve got every right to show their fury.

The pertinent part for those rubbishing the article RG30 dug up and those who defend Kean as somehow the innocent party in all this. The linkes between Kean's agent and Venkys are worrying, you wonder how else a man with his appaling win ratio would survive in the job and given the absentee nature of the owners, the Kean Nepotism is something for the supporters to focus their ire on (not that I would endorse death threats).

[winchester_royal]

Those fans, of course, realised all of this long ago. You can blame them for focusing their firepower on Kean instead of Venky’s, but given that the owners hardly ever turned up to a game, they’d have had to shout pretty loud for them to notice. They’ve been blamed for protesting during matches and not supporting their team, but what were they supposed to do? Don the face paints, hold a party in the top tier, link hands, sing “Kumbaya” and then throw a tantrum when everyone had gone? What would have been the point of that? They’re livid and they’ve got every right to show their fury.

The pertinent part for those rubbishing the article RG30 dug up and those who defend Kean as somehow the innocent party in all this. The linkes between Kean's agent and Venkys are worrying, you wonder how else a man with his appaling win ratio would survive in the job and given the absentee nature of the owners, the Kean Nepotism is something for the supporters to focus their ire on (not that I would endorse death threats).

Not rubbishing the article so to speak; the actions of the Venkys and of the agent are certainly inexcusable. However there are accepted ways of going about protesting (for example, lobbying the premier league, lobbying parliament, supporting a local non-league club instead of going to watch Blackburn) and there are ways that are just wrong (death threats, threats of violence, shouting abuse during the match which will have a negative impact on your side that is fighting against relegation).

The Blackburn fans who have taken part in this spewing of vitriol get no sympathy from me because they have not gone about it in the right way. Two wrongs don't make a right. They have made Kean's life a misery, and this is simply a guy who is trying to enhance his career for the best of his family. He won't walk away now because he knows his reputation in football is as low as it could get, and he will struggle to find a high paying job if he were to quit. He doesn't deserve death threats for that.

Can I understand their actions? Possibly. Are they an innocent party? Absolutely not.