Englands Best Striker?

Best England Attacker

Poll ended at 12 Sep 2015 10:59
Rooney
4
14%
Charlton
0
No votes
Lineker
18
62%
Shearer
4
14%
Greaves
3
10%
Owen
0
No votes
Lofthouse
0
No votes
Finney
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 29
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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by Big Foot » 09 Sep 2015 12:28

Have any of you seen footage of Sir Bobby's time? He was up against defending that bad that I'd put even my chances at scoring 49 international goals as pretty high

Rooney has been consistently there for England, ok he's not fared fantastically at tournaments, but he's lead the line well and been part of 3-4 different England 'generations' as the one real constant

He's scored great goals along the way, I'll always remember being there in 2007 when Owen flickedit on ( :shock: ) for him to volley home away in Russia

Seeing his brace at Celtic Park last November was special too, his jubilant celebrations full of the sort of passion England 'fans' are quick to doubt

Congratulations Wayne Rooney, England's best ever striker

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by Albert Spangler » 09 Sep 2015 12:39

No Kes-o but the headline stat is fairly conclusive.

I think the answer would have been Michael Owen, under different circumstances, but injuries curtailed his chances.

Hopefully Rooney will notch a few in the Euros and put the doubters to bed. As has been mentioned, his performances at tournaments do follow him around like a little cloud of gloom.

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by Zammo » 09 Sep 2015 12:42

Hoop Blah
No Fixed Abode The question was "England's best striker". Not England's best player.


OK, so last week Charlton was the better striker but this week it's Rooney?


:lol:

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by No Fixed Abode » 09 Sep 2015 12:56

Zammo
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No Fixed Abode The question was "England's best striker". Not England's best player.


OK, so last week Charlton was the better striker but this week it's Rooney?


:lol:


It's subjective so the only way you can judge it is by stats.

Chins up m8s!

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by Ouroboros » 09 Sep 2015 13:41

But why the stat of total goals instead of goals per game?

Or the stat of total goals instead of, say, total goals in competitive games? Or total goals in major tournaments?


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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by Ouroboros » 09 Sep 2015 13:43

I think Lineker's 10 goals over 2 world cups, including the golden boot, and his excellent ratio, make him the best goalscorer of my lifetime.

He wasn't the all-round player Rooney is though, that has to count for something.

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by Hoop Blah » 09 Sep 2015 13:49

No Fixed Abode It's subjective so the only way you can judge it is by stats.


Exactly, it is subjective, so it can't be judged by the stats otherwise that would be objective.

So what is your opinion on who's been the best forward/attacker/goalscorer/striker*?

* choose which descriptive noun you prefer to answer.

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by Zammo » 09 Sep 2015 14:01

Hoop Blah
No Fixed Abode It's subjective so the only way you can judge it is by stats.


Exactly, it is subjective, so it can't be judged by the stats otherwise that would be objective.

So what is your opinion on who's been the best forward/attacker/goalscorer/striker*?

* choose which descriptive noun you prefer to answer.


Chins up, Kes :lol:

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by Handsome Man » 09 Sep 2015 14:24

Owen should have been better, but got injured and slow.
Rooney should have been better but his all round skills means he gets played in midfield and dragged wide too much and he has come nowhere near to fulfilling his potential.
I went for Lineker, because he did it in two world cups for us, and as a striker had no weak points.
Shearer was always a little disappointing.


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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by Forbury Lion » 09 Sep 2015 14:43

Geof Hurst deserves to be on that list for his World Cup winning hat-trick if nothing else, that in itself is 3x more World Cup goals than Rooney.

I'm not sure Lineker was anything more than a goalscorer whereas other strikers have more to their game, Having said that scoring goals is the important part of being a striker.

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by No Fixed Abode » 09 Sep 2015 15:20

Hoop Blah
No Fixed Abode It's subjective so the only way you can judge it is by stats.


Exactly, it is subjective, so it can't be judged by the stats otherwise that would be objective.

So what is your opinion on who's been the best forward/attacker/goalscorer/striker*?

* choose which descriptive noun you prefer to answer.


Yep so the only conclusive proof there is who has the most goals. You can't argue with that.

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by Hoop Blah » 09 Sep 2015 15:29

I'm not asking for conclusive proof Kes, I'm asking for your opinion on which player you think is better.

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by TBM » 09 Sep 2015 15:31

No Fixed Abode
Hoop Blah
No Fixed Abode It's subjective so the only way you can judge it is by stats.


Exactly, it is subjective, so it can't be judged by the stats otherwise that would be objective.

So what is your opinion on who's been the best forward/attacker/goalscorer/striker*?

* choose which descriptive noun you prefer to answer.


Yep so the only conclusive proof there is who has the most goals. You can't argue with that.


So going by that logic, you're saying John Terry is a better striker than Diego Costa, for Chelsea?


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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by No Fixed Abode » 09 Sep 2015 15:45

No, John Terry isn't a striker. :| :roll:

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by TBM » 09 Sep 2015 15:46

No Fixed Abode No, John Terry isn't a striker. :| :roll:


Nor was Bobby Charlton

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by No Fixed Abode » 09 Sep 2015 15:46

Hoop Blah I'm not asking for conclusive proof Kes, I'm asking for your opinion on which player you think is better.


But 'better player' isn't the topic subject. It's 'England's best striker'.

Fooking hell....

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by No Fixed Abode » 09 Sep 2015 15:47

TBM
No Fixed Abode No, John Terry isn't a striker. :| :roll:


Nor was Bobby Charlton


I'm not saying Bobby Charlton was a striker or the best striker.

I'm saying Wayne Rooney is the best striker. :|

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by TBM » 09 Sep 2015 15:48

No Fixed Abode Quite clearly it's Rooney. He's scored more goals than any other England player.

Stats don't lie.

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by No Fixed Abode » 09 Sep 2015 15:51

TBM
No Fixed Abode Quite clearly it's Rooney. He's scored more goals than any other England player.

Stats don't lie.


Where does that say Bobby Charlton is an England striker?

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Re: Englands Best Striker?

by TBM » 09 Sep 2015 15:56

No Fixed Abode
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No Fixed Abode Quite clearly it's Rooney. He's scored more goals than any other England player.

Stats don't lie.


Where does that say Bobby Charlton is an England striker?


It doesn't but you're saying whoever has scored the most goals is the best striker......when in fact that just makes them better at scoring goals.

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