ArsenaLOL

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Arsenal are back.

[BR2]

Tbf they could/should have won that game quite easily based on the relative performances. Those writing off Arsenal on the back of this one game are worse than the bandwagon jumperoners.

Not sure where you get your "quite easily" from.
Particularly in the first half Dortmund dictated the game and in the whole course of the game Arsenal created hardly any more chances than their opponents.
Interesting,as Sandman said earlier, Ozil didn't particularly impress against a German side and this was the case for both him and Khedira for Real Madrid over the past couple of years when facing German opposition.
I thought Wilshere once again by giving the ball away so much showed that he is still not ready to be the great white hope (Jason Roberts,this is a long-standing expression with no anti-black connotations) for the English national team.
Cazola looked much more the real deal when he replaced him.

[soggy biscuit]

Arsenal are back.

[Magic Hat]

Tbf they could/should have won that game quite easily based on the relative performances. Those writing off Arsenal on the back of this one game are worse than the bandwagon jumperoners.

Not sure where you get your "quite easily" from.
Particularly in the first half Dortmund dictated the game and in the whole course of the game Arsenal created hardly any more chances than their opponents.
Interesting,as Sandman said earlier, Ozil didn't particularly impress against a German side and this was the case for both him and Khedira for Real Madrid over the past couple of years when facing German opposition.
I thought Wilshere once again by giving the ball away so much showed that he is still not ready to be the great white hope (Jason Roberts,this is a long-standing expression with no anti-black connotations) for the English national team.
Cazola looked much more the real deal when he replaced him.

Unfortunately it does:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_J._Jeffries

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Arsenal are back.

Not really though is it? They've not won anything for 9 years now. .

[Ian Royal]

Oh no, flat track bullies come up short again.

Still to go to Dortmund and Napoli ftl/w

Didn't realise you had a blinkering hatred of Arsenal.

[sandman]

Who doesn't? Good to see them "getting f[u]cked on the telly".

[NewCorkSeth]

I like Arsenal. There I said it!!!!

On a side note I just noticed the other day that the manager in the Prem with the second longest standing time at current job is Monsieur Alain Pardeu.. Not much job security at the top.. or the bottom.. or the middle..

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I like Arsenal. There I said it!!!!

On a side note I just noticed the other day that the manager in the Prem with the second longest standing time at current job is Monsieur Alain Pardeu.. Not much job security at the top.. or the bottom.. or the middle..

People like Arsenal at the moment because they're entertaining but don't win anything. If they start winning trophies again this will change.

[St. Brynjar]

I like Arsenal because I like the way they do things properly, stability and good football combined. I like and respect Wenger a lot, and I like a lot of their players. Much more likeable than any of the other big teams.

[ZacNaloen]

I like Arsenal because I like the way they do things properly, stability and good football combined. I like and respect Wenger a lot, and I like a lot of their players. Much more likeable than any of the other big teams.

This. It's the model I would like the premier league to follow, it's not just the style of football.

[Ian Royal]

I like Arsenal because I like the way they do things properly, stability and good football combined. I like and respect Wenger a lot, and I like a lot of their players. Much more likeable than any of the other big teams.

This. It's the model I would like the premier league to follow, it's not just the style of football.

Absolutely. Hard not to respect Utd as well for such incredible long term success. And they generally play decent football too, if in a different style to Arsenal. City are still a bit comedy so difficult to find them too offensive.

[Nameless]

I like Arsenal because I like the way they do things properly, stability and good football combined. I like and respect Wenger a lot, and I like a lot of their players. Much more likeable than any of the other big teams.

This. It's the model I would like the premier league to follow, it's not just the style of football.

Absolutely. Hard not to respect Utd as well for such incredible long term success. And they generally play decent football too, if in a different style to Arsenal. City are still a bit comedy so difficult to find them too offensive.

Most of the top clubs can be respected. Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, united, Everton all deserve it for various reasons. agree City are still a bit nouveau and really haven't won enough for what they have spent but I do respect their fans who had many, many years of pain...

[St. Brynjar]

This. It's the model I would like the premier league to follow, it's not just the style of football.

Absolutely. Hard not to respect Utd as well for such incredible long term success. And they generally play decent football too, if in a different style to Arsenal. City are still a bit comedy so difficult to find them too offensive.

Most of the top clubs can be respected. Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, united, Everton all deserve it for various reasons. agree City are still a bit nouveau and really haven't won enough for what they have spent but I do respect their fans who had many, many years of pain...

Sure about that?

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City are still a bit nouveau and really haven't won enough for what they have spent but I do respect their fans who had many, many years of pain...

I find City fans haven't changed their mentality since becoming rich. They still can't quite believe what has happened and somehow manage to look at the negative convinced that the money will all come to an end soon and they will be relegated before long.

[Nameless]

Most of the top clubs can be respected. Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, united, Everton all deserve it for various reasons. agree City are still a bit nouveau and really haven't won enough for what they have spent but I do respect their fans who had many, many years of pain...

Sure about that?

Yes. Why would you not respect The Boot Room, 5 euro cups, the Kop and the songs, winning the league using 12 players in a season, just 50p to look after your car and the bubble perm

[Ian Royal]

Liverpool are a bit of a non-entity now though, so none of that is relevant to the current team.

[St. Brynjar]

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Sure about that?

Yes. Why would you not respect The Boot Room, 5 euro cups, the Kop and the songs, winning the league using 12 players in a season, just 50p to look after your car and the bubble perm[/quote]
Even if I was old enough to remember most of that, the last few years have seen the Liverpool name dragged through the mire sufficiently to overshadow those achievements. The only reason I dislike Chelsea more is because Chelsea actually matter these days.

[Nameless]

Seems some of you need to rethink your ideas !

Respecting a club isn't just about what they did last weekend or last season. Liverpool are a pretty special club with a pretty unique history. Just because you weren't around in the days of Shankley, Paisley, Fagin and can't be bothered to find out that doesn't take away from an amazing period in football. The Kop was also a pretty special place for many years.

The Suarez incident was a pretty sorry time but doesn't in anyway detract from what went before.

Sky has a lot to answer for.

And Ian, check out the difference between a club and a team.....

[Ian Royal]

Seems some of you need to rethink your ideas !

Respecting a club isn't just about what they did last weekend or last season. Liverpool are a pretty special club with a pretty unique history. Just because you weren't around in the days of Shankley, Paisley, Fagin and can't be bothered to find out that doesn't take away from an amazing period in football. The Kop was also a pretty special place for many years.

The Suarez incident was a pretty sorry time but doesn't in anyway detract from what went before.

Sky has a lot to answer for.

And Ian, check out the difference between a club and a team.....

I can respect what Liverpool achieved in the past, but that's got sweet FA to do with anything about them now.

I know the difference between a team and a club thanks.