Football without offside

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Football without offside

by URZZZZZ » 19 Sep 2013 18:30

Serious question, could you imagine football without the offside rule. Would it make the game better or worse?
Would certainly be a load more goals.

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Re: Football without offside

by AthleticoSpizz » 19 Sep 2013 18:31

plenty of fun


They should try it in pre-season friendlies

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Re: Football without offside

by URZZZZZ » 19 Sep 2013 18:35

I honestly think it would make the game better in general, just my opinion mind you

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Re: Football without offside

by TBM » 19 Sep 2013 18:50

Worse

You'd just have 1 bloke stood in front of the keeper the whole game

Plus it would be too open and slow, like playing 5-a-side on an 11-a-side pitch

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Re: Football without offside

by Alexander Litvinenko » 19 Sep 2013 18:56

Yep - a team would post a couple of big'uns up in the opposition box and punt the ball forward to them at every possible moment.

So defences would respond by leaving 3 players back all the time to matrk them, and the game would become a lot less fluid and a lot more about big humping the ball forward to big hulks.

Plus Stoke would win the Champions League.


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Re: Football without offside

by AthleticoSpizz » 19 Sep 2013 19:14

Both teams, surely A L?

would one not negate the other?

Worth a go

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Re: Football without offside

by Alexander Litvinenko » 19 Sep 2013 22:10

Both teams, of course, yes. So defences would stay back, and the game would flow a lot less - but there'd be lots of hoofing from one end to the other in the hope that the big attackers would get their head on it.

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Re: Football without offside

by AthleticoSpizz » 19 Sep 2013 22:13

just like 1970's Elm Park

Good times, proper fans etc

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Re: Football without offside

by creative_username_1 » 20 Sep 2013 11:21

Have you seen Gaelic Football, it'd be like that.


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Re: Football without offside

by stealthpapes » 20 Sep 2013 12:54

creative_username_1 Have you seen Gaelic Football, it'd be like that.


I agree.
I was trying to remember the gaelic offside rule and its incredibly limited.

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Re: Football without offside

by Green » 20 Sep 2013 14:06

AthleticoSpizz just like 1970's Elm Park

Good times, proper fans etc

Yes

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Re: Football without offside

by creative_username_1 » 20 Sep 2013 14:58

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creative_username_1 Have you seen Gaelic Football, it'd be like that.


I agree.
I was trying to remember the gaelic offside rule and its incredibly limited.


more people on the pitch, it's an exciting fast paced game but maybe not for the purists

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Re: Football without offside

by Schards#2 » 20 Sep 2013 14:59

I was living in Barnet in the early 1990's and went to a few of their games in the Conference when that league was experimenting with no offsides from a free kick. Made the game worse IMHO, every freekick was launched as close to under the crossbar as possible while half the defence stood on the goal line.


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Re: Football without offside

by Barry the bird boggler » 20 Sep 2013 16:56

Schards#2 I was living in Barnet in the early 1990's and went to a few of their games in the Conference when that league was experimenting with no offsides from a free kick. Made the game worse IMHO, every freekick was launched as close to under the crossbar as possible while half the defence stood on the goal line.


So everyone got to watch Stoke tactics every week. Worked for them.

Personally I think football should simply remain the same but be played with a beach ball (women's game should of course go down the beach volleyball route)

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Re: Football without offside

by Green » 20 Sep 2013 16:58

Schards#2 I was living in Barnet in the early 1990's and went to a few of their games in the Conference when that league was experimenting with no offsides from a free kick. Made the game worse IMHO, every freekick was launched as close to under the crossbar as possible while half the defence stood on the goal line.

Smashing little club tbf.

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Re: Football without offside

by Alexander Litvinenko » 20 Sep 2013 21:00

Tokyo Sex Whale What about a rule where you can be offside for 10 seconds before you have to be onside again.

A bit like basketball where you're only allowed in that bit in front of the net for a short while at a time.


Can you imagine trying to manage and administer that?

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Re: Football without offside

by Nameless » 21 Sep 2013 11:49

Hockey scrapped offside, and you can take free hits to yourself, and hits from the side. Both have really speeded up the game.
No idea whether it would work in football but I suspect it would take some time for managers to work out ways of being creative.
Players would never get the hang of it and you would still see centre backs standing with their arms raised appealing for offside....

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Re: Football without offside

by Alexander Litvinenko » 21 Sep 2013 18:39

Nameless Hockey scrapped offside, and you can take free hits to yourself, and hits from the side. Both have really speeded up the game.
No idea whether it would work in football but I suspect it would take some time for managers to work out ways of being creative.
Players would never get the hang of it and you would still see centre backs standing with their arms raised appealing for offside....


Not sure. The "keeper can't pick the ball up after a back-pass" rule change only took a season or so to become fully part of football.

I think the main difference is that in hockey you generally can't lift the ball above head height (except in some circumstances), unlike football where the hoof forward for the big blokes standing in the box would be the order of the day.

The beautifully-timed diagonal pass to eat the offside trap is a thing of joy - I'd hate so see that disappear and be replaced by more and more hoofball.

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Re: Football without offside

by PistolPete » 22 Sep 2013 07:30

Nameless Hockey scrapped offside, and you can take free hits to yourself, and hits from the side. Both have really speeded up the game.
No idea whether it would work in football but I suspect it would take some time for managers to work out ways of being creative.
Players would never get the hang of it and you would still see centre backs standing with their arms raised appealing for offside....


I posted this on here a few years ago, I'd like to see it trialled at a low level for sure.

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Re: Football without offside

by Royalist » 22 Sep 2013 16:04

I'd change corners. If the ball goes out whilst inside the box the corner is taken from the edge of the 18 yard box. Putting it behind next to the post shouldn't push the ball out wide that much!

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