VAR

[Sanguine]

ESPN "study" shows that this season in the PL that VAR officials have made 20 (TWENTY) erroneous decisions which, to be honest, is utterly inexcusable. Same study apparently shows that Liverpool have been on the receiving end of 4 of those decisions with Brighton and Wolves next on 3 apiece and the Arse with 2. Conversely, Villa (3 times) and United, Forest and Arsenal (all twice) have benefitted the most from those decisions.

Something needs to be done, this cr@p is undermining the game and bringing it into disrepute. It cannot be allowed to go on.

Fwiw, the same study showed that the count this time last season was 25, albeit I doubt Howard Webb will be celebrating that 'improvement'.

What is particularly telling was that of those 20, 17 of the errors were VAR not intervening to correct an on-field decision (as oppose to intervening incorrectly), which a cynic might consider alongside Mike Dean's comments about 'protecting' colleagues.

[Stranded]

ESPN "study" shows that this season in the PL that VAR officials have made 20 (TWENTY) erroneous decisions which, to be honest, is utterly inexcusable. Same study apparently shows that Liverpool have been on the receiving end of 4 of those decisions with Brighton and Wolves next on 3 apiece and the Arse with 2. Conversely, Villa (3 times) and United, Forest and Arsenal (all twice) have benefitted the most from those decisions.

Something needs to be done, this cr@p is undermining the game and bringing it into disrepute. It cannot be allowed to go on.

20 is a large number in isolation but what is that in terms of a percentage of all decisions made by VAR? Whatever process you put in place you are never going to get 0 mistakes but is that 20 errors in 200 decisions or 2000 decisions? And how does that compare to the number of errors made when only the onfield officials made a call.

There does need to be a change in the way VAR is used, particularly in England, which seems to be using it in a different way to other European leagues which has led to the perception that is terrible, even when it isn't.

[Stranded]

Ok see the article does state some of these. In the last season before VAR 82% of all decisions were accurate whereas now 96% are accurate. So a 4% error rate.

That is still too high, am sure they will be looking for a 1 or 2% error rate at most but whilst the time it takes to review and other areas need work, accuracy is showing a massive improvement as a result of VAR.

[Sutekh]

Should not the referee be allowed officiate the game, as if there is no VAR. and it's then for that official to call for assistance, when there is obvious controversy, by stopping the game when the ball next goes "dead".

[Winston Biscuit]

Blue card trial now postponed by IFAB

a victory for common sense

[Snowflake Royal]

Should not the referee be allowed officiate the game, as if there is no VAR. and it's then for that official to call for assistance, when there is obvious controversy, by stopping the game when the ball next goes "dead".

No, the referee missing something key, isn’t going to know he's missed something key to refer.

[windermereROYAL]

Two absolute howlers in the Luton v Sheff utd game, both pens and both from corners, no on field appeals, I`m assuming he gave the second because he got the first one wrong.
Take a bow Paul Tierney for taking VAR fuck ups to a whole new level.
What staggers me is the refs in these instances never have the balls to stick to their original decisions.

[Franchise FC]

Can someone explain to me why, when a player has been kicked in the face, while jumping no less, the perpetrator does not get a red card ?

[Franchise FC]

Just read the transcript of the conversion related to the Doku/Mac Allister penalty incident.

Now I’m completely sure that the VAR team are incompetent.
To say that they “both went in high” is so far away from the reality that we can all see, that the officials should never officiate in any capacity again.
If you make that decision in real time (as Michael Oliver did) then that’s one thing, but to look at it numerous times and come up with that is unforgivable

And Howard Webb has reverted to type in simply trying to defend the officials even when it’s patently obvious that they’re explanation for the decision were factually inaccurate

[Sutekh]

Just read the transcript of the conversion related to the Doku/Mac Allister penalty incident.

Now I’m completely sure that the VAR team are incompetent.
To say that they “both went in high” is so far away from the reality that we can all see, that the officials should never officiate in any capacity again.
If you make that decision in real time (as Michael Oliver did) then that’s one thing, but to look at it numerous times and come up with that is unforgivable

And Howard Webb has reverted to type in simply trying to defend the officials even when it’s patently obvious that they’re explanation for the decision were factually inaccurate

All integrity for the title race this season has long since evaporated, nice change that it's PGMOL that are the cause this time round rather than just the presence of Mancheater City though.

[BRO_BOT]

Just read the transcript of the conversion related to the Doku/Mac Allister penalty incident.

Now I’m completely sure that the VAR team are incompetent.
To say that they “both went in high” is so far away from the reality that we can all see, that the officials should never officiate in any capacity again.
If you make that decision in real time (as Michael Oliver did) then that’s one thing, but to look at it numerous times and come up with that is unforgivable

And Howard Webb has reverted to type in simply trying to defend the officials even when it’s patently obvious that they’re explanation for the decision were factually inaccurate

MacAllister won a free kick doing the same thing to Maguire last Sunday

[Sutekh]

VAR people failed to award Everton a clear penalty yesterday, then there's that Chelsea penalty....

Wonder how many pages the VAR failures run into this season, must be a record.