The dedicated Chris Wilder thread

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Carlton Palmer on Wilder to Reading rumours:

"The next appointment is vital for Reading, they need to get that right.

"I think it would be a smart move for Chris, he knows the league, but Chris has to make sure that it's right for him, that the club is in the right financial position so he can make a challenge to take the club back to the Championship.

"The club are going to blame Paul Ince, but the simple facts are that they have been relegated due to the six-point deduction for not following an agreed business plan with the EFL.

"Chris has got to be careful, his next move has got to be spot on and he's got to be successful, but I think it would be a good appointment for both Chris and Reading."

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/got-t ... on-palmer/

I think people say "financial position" like we don't have any money to spend, or that we are close to the brink. We aren't the first/only club that is loaded with debt to an owner and we have an owner that has repeatedly said he is committed to the club and we've obviously seen first hand that he is more than willing to invest in the club. Whilst that's worked against us, we aren't exactly short of cash.

I do think it's a good opportunity for both the club and manager, but obviously one that both have to get right. We get it wrong, who knows where it sends us, if it goes wrong for Wilder then that's his reputation well and truly damaged.

[Snowflake Royal]

Carlton Palmer on Wilder to Reading rumours:

"The next appointment is vital for Reading, they need to get that right.

"I think it would be a smart move for Chris, he knows the league, but Chris has to make sure that it's right for him, that the club is in the right financial position so he can make a challenge to take the club back to the Championship.

"The club are going to blame Paul Ince, but the simple facts are that they have been relegated due to the six-point deduction for not following an agreed business plan with the EFL.

"Chris has got to be careful, his next move has got to be spot on and he's got to be successful, but I think it would be a good appointment for both Chris and Reading."

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/got-t ... on-palmer/

I think people say "financial position" like we don't have any money to spend, or that we are close to the brink. We aren't the first/only club that is loaded with debt to an owner and we have an owner that has repeatedly said he is committed to the club and we've obviously seen first hand that he is more than willing to invest in the club. Whilst that's worked against us, we aren't exactly short of cash.

I do think it's a good opportunity for both the club and manager, but obviously one that both have to get right. We get it wrong, who knows where it sends us, if it goes wrong for Wilder then that's his reputation well and truly damaged.

Owners cash isn't our cash auto-post.

Owner is filthy rich, club is losing money hand over fist still.

[paultheroyal]

Posh are down to 10 men.

It's a bit like Groundhog Day.

Coventry playing?

[Stranded]

Carlton Palmer on Wilder to Reading rumours:

"The next appointment is vital for Reading, they need to get that right.

"I think it would be a smart move for Chris, he knows the league, but Chris has to make sure that it's right for him, that the club is in the right financial position so he can make a challenge to take the club back to the Championship.

"The club are going to blame Paul Ince, but the simple facts are that they have been relegated due to the six-point deduction for not following an agreed business plan with the EFL.

"Chris has got to be careful, his next move has got to be spot on and he's got to be successful, but I think it would be a good appointment for both Chris and Reading."

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/got-t ... on-palmer/

I think people say "financial position" like we don't have any money to spend, or that we are close to the brink. We aren't the first/only club that is loaded with debt to an owner and we have an owner that has repeatedly said he is committed to the club and we've obviously seen first hand that he is more than willing to invest in the club. Whilst that's worked against us, we aren't exactly short of cash.

I do think it's a good opportunity for both the club and manager, but obviously one that both have to get right. We get it wrong, who knows where it sends us, if it goes wrong for Wilder then that's his reputation well and truly damaged.

Owners cash isn't our cash auto-post.

Owner is filthy rich, club is losing money hand over fist still.

As per 90% of clubs in England. It's a totally unsustainable system and we aren't alone in being dependent on someone willing to sign cheques*

*aware you aren't saying anything different.

[Sutekh]

I think people say "financial position" like we don't have any money to spend, or that we are close to the brink. We aren't the first/only club that is loaded with debt to an owner and we have an owner that has repeatedly said he is committed to the club and we've obviously seen first hand that he is more than willing to invest in the club. Whilst that's worked against us, we aren't exactly short of cash.

I do think it's a good opportunity for both the club and manager, but obviously one that both have to get right. We get it wrong, who knows where it sends us, if it goes wrong for Wilder then that's his reputation well and truly damaged.

Owners cash isn't our cash auto-post.

Owner is filthy rich, club is losing money hand over fist still.

As per 90% of clubs in England. It's a totally unsustainable system and we aren't alone in being dependent on someone willing to sign cheques*

*aware you aren't saying anything different.

God help everyone if the football authorities ever say “only clubs turning a profit will be allowed to enter competitions”.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Carlton Palmer on Wilder to Reading rumours:

"The next appointment is vital for Reading, they need to get that right.

"I think it would be a smart move for Chris, he knows the league, but Chris has to make sure that it's right for him, that the club is in the right financial position so he can make a challenge to take the club back to the Championship.

"The club are going to blame Paul Ince, but the simple facts are that they have been relegated due to the six-point deduction for not following an agreed business plan with the EFL.

"Chris has got to be careful, his next move has got to be spot on and he's got to be successful, but I think it would be a good appointment for both Chris and Reading."

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/got-t ... on-palmer/

I think people say "financial position" like we don't have any money to spend, or that we are close to the brink. We aren't the first/only club that is loaded with debt to an owner and we have an owner that has repeatedly said he is committed to the club and we've obviously seen first hand that he is more than willing to invest in the club. Whilst that's worked against us, we aren't exactly short of cash.

I do think it's a good opportunity for both the club and manager, but obviously one that both have to get right. We get it wrong, who knows where it sends us, if it goes wrong for Wilder then that's his reputation well and truly damaged.

Owners cash isn't our cash auto-post.

Owner is filthy rich, club is losing money hand over fist still.

But whilst the owner still owns the club, then that's "ok" because someone is covering those losses. As mentioned, completely unsustainable and we would be in a perilous financial state if the owner was to leave, but so would most/every other club.

I wasn't suggesting the owners cash is our own, but the owners cash is used to fund the club. If he was in a poor financial position, then yes, we'd have a problem.

[SpaghettiHoop]

Wilder now only evens on BetVictor. Not going to happen.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Goal!

[Snowflake Royal]

Like odds have anything to do with it.

[blythspartan]

I really hope we can get Wilder but it’ll depend on who makes the final decision. If it’s Bowen we might get Wilder but if it’s Dayong Pang it’ll be someone like Kolo Toure.

I think we’d be a great project for Wilder, and we have the potential to be a bigger club than Watford. I just want it to be a sensible choice and for the new manager to be given at least 3 years to rebuild the squad and give us back our identity.

[Blackbag]

Do people think he may go to Huddersfield instead of us ? He may want to go back up north

[Brum Royal]

Posh are down to 10 men.

It's a bit like Groundhog Day.

Coventry playing?

Idiots

[Greatwesternline]

I'd be very happy with YaYa Toure.

But actually i want Owen Hargreaves

[Greatwesternline]

I wonder if Gylfi could be an option. He'd be good at bringing the kids through.

[Orion1871]

I wonder if Gylfi could be an option. He'd be good at bringing the kids through.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

I'd be very happy with YaYa Toure.

But actually i want Owen Hargreaves

Kolo toure more like

[Forbury Lion]

Carlton Palmer on Wilder to Reading rumours:

"The next appointment is vital for Reading, they need to get that right.

"I think it would be a smart move for Chris, he knows the league, but Chris has to make sure that it's right for him, that the club is in the right financial position so he can make a challenge to take the club back to the Championship.

"The club are going to blame Paul Ince, but the simple facts are that they have been relegated due to the six-point deduction for not following an agreed business plan with the EFL.

"Chris has got to be careful, his next move has got to be spot on and he's got to be successful, but I think it would be a good appointment for both Chris and Reading."

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/got-t ... on-palmer/

I don't think Carlton Palmer really did his homework.

The mess financially is down to previous owners appointing the wrong person to run the club (Brian Tevreden interview on the 1871 podcasts only goes to further prove this point). The agreed business plan with the EFL was for us to sell players and bring in money, It was a gamble accepting that business plan because if we had not we would have got a 12 point deduction the year before and been relegated, We chose to accept even though to meet it we had to sell players that nobody wanted to buy and who probably wouldn't have agreed to leave unless we paid up their lucrative over generous contracts, But we went for it in the hope we could ride it out and be so far up the league that the 6 points deduction wouldn't have made too much of an impact. At the halfway point, that gamble looked as though it was paying off.

[Snowflake Royal]

The financial mismanagement was from Zingarevich and Yongge. The Thais actually started fixing things before Dai took over, I believe appointed Gourlay, refused to sell Moore, gave Moore a ludicrous Premier League wage 4 year contract, spunked millions up the wall on Puscas and Joao the second we came out of transfer restrictions and has continued to be a oxf*rd disaster since.

[Lower West]

The financial mismanagement was from Zingarevich and Yongge. The Thais actually started fixing things before Dai took over, I believe appointed Gourlay, refused to sell Moore, gave Moore a ludicrous Premier League wage 4 year contract, spunked millions up the wall on Puscas and Joao the second we came out of transfer restrictions and has continued to be a oxf*rd disaster since.

Gourlay was simply an employee under instruction. Wouldn't have been his decision. Yongge agreed to the £12 million of player sales. Which was unachievable from the outset. That's why Joao never left in the January transfer window. Better he stayed in the hope that he scored goals, that would outweigh the baked in 6 point deduction that was on the way.

[Sutekh]

The financial mismanagement was from Zingarevich and Yongge. The Thais actually started fixing things before Dai took over, I believe appointed Gourlay, refused to sell Moore, gave Moore a ludicrous Premier League wage 4 year contract, spunked millions up the wall on Puscas and Joao the second we came out of transfer restrictions and has continued to be a oxf*rd disaster since.

Gourlay was simply an employee under instruction. Wouldn't have been his decision. Yongge agreed to the £12 million of player sales. Which was unachievable from the outset. That's why Joao never left in the January transfer window. Better he stayed in the hope that he scored goals, that would outweigh the baked in 6 point deduction that was on the way.

Of course if Ince had gone in January then Reading would have probably been ok, still we'll never know.