Seol

[Stranded]

We played Bournemouth there.

[Tilehurst Mike]

Booing Seol is pathetic. What a great message to send out to the rest of the team.

Totally agree and he was definitely made a scapegoat--even morons around me were having a go at Coppell. We knew he would be a 'luxury'player when we signed him--ask any Wolves fan. he can either turn a game with a piece of magic like he did at Bramall Lane and Upton Park or can be non existant like he was last night. He has clearly got some problems with his form and mental state at the moment, hence why he is not featuring in the first team for Premiership matches at the moment or even on the bench. Its up to him and the coaching staff to sort out whatever problems he has. Booing will do him no favours or indeed any other players any good whatsoever.

[Royalee]

Booing does not make a player put more effort in

Didn't do Drogba any harm.

Who booed Drogba, the Chelsea fans? Or was it the same Reading fans who like AP says, boo opposition players for diving when they have clearly been fouled, or boo the ref for not giving a decision Reading's way or most frustratingly boo opposition players for playing well against Reading in the past!

Home fans booing an away player gives the player extra incentive to do well. Home fans booing a home player is demoralising and will not help that players performance.

Royalee, you stink of a glory hunter mate.

Yes, a glory hunter who's supported his local team since he was 6 and travelled to the likes of Colchester, Cambridge, York, Dorchester and Bury in his quest for glory.

We haven't played Dorchester in the past 4 years have we?

Bournemouth played their games there a few years back when it pissed it down and we got beat.

[knobby_1871]

Booing does not make a player put more effort in

Didn't do Drogba any harm.

Who booed Drogba, the Chelsea fans? Or was it the same Reading fans who like AP says, boo opposition players for diving when they have clearly been fouled, or boo the ref for not giving a decision Reading's way or most frustratingly boo opposition players for playing well against Reading in the past!

Home fans booing an away player gives the player extra incentive to do well. Home fans booing a home player is demoralising and will not help that players performance.

Royalee, you stink of a glory hunter mate.

Yes, a glory hunter who's supported his local team since he was 6 and travelled to the likes of Colchester, Cambridge, York, Dorchester and Bury in his quest for glory.

We haven't played Dorchester in the past 4 years have we?

Bournemouth played their games there a few years back when it pissed it down and we got beat.

We lost that game ?? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!

[Royalee]

Booing does not make a player put more effort in

Didn't do Drogba any harm.

Who booed Drogba, the Chelsea fans? Or was it the same Reading fans who like AP says, boo opposition players for diving when they have clearly been fouled, or boo the ref for not giving a decision Reading's way or most frustratingly boo opposition players for playing well against Reading in the past!

Home fans booing an away player gives the player extra incentive to do well. Home fans booing a home player is demoralising and will not help that players performance.

Royalee, you stink of a glory hunter mate.

Yes, a glory hunter who's supported his local team since he was 6 and travelled to the likes of Colchester, Cambridge, York, Dorchester and Bury in his quest for glory.

We haven't played Dorchester in the past 4 years have we?

Bournemouth played their games there a few years back when it pissed it down and we got beat.

We lost that game ?? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!

Losing I can take, gutless performances I can't.

[Jaques Francais]

Losing I can take, gutless performances I can't.

[Huntley & Palmer]

Booing does not make a player put more effort in

Didn't do Drogba any harm.

Eh? Are you saying that Drogba has finally lived up to his potential because the Chelsea fan's booed him last season.

No, I'm saying he got his finger out after Chelsea fans let them know what they though of him and his manager had a word in his ear. If you listen to a lot of Drogba's interviews he'll talk about the stick he got and how it fired him up.

So you are saying that the Chelsea fans booed Drogba and made him pull his finger out. Even though an insurmountable amount of evidence to contrary shows that it usually takes a season for a player to bed into a team and play to their ability? Whatever way you try and shape your argument, the point still stands that booing any of your own team is utterly pointless and serves no other purpose than to affect his mental attitude towards the team and fans in a negative manner.

[Scylla]

Seol can be a bit nesh. This has always been a crime in the eyes of some English football fans.

[tomrfcurz]

Booing Seol is pathetic. What a great message to send out to the rest of the team.

i agree he may be bollocks but booing him is a bit harsh

[Coppelled Streets]

West Ham Utd 0 Reading 1

But as Wolves fans had told us, you get one good game out of him in 10 games.

Started the season in fantastic fashion. But he just looks disinterested and isn't your typical 'Reading player'.

[SpaceCruiser]

Seol may have not been on the top of his game last night (I mean, why didn't he try to run onto one of Kitson's nod ons?), but he still managed to pull off a great shot which Van Der Sar was forced to dive to make a great save.

Lay off the man.

[Only one Trevor Morley]

Just not a retard that thinks booing one of our own players is proactive. Mostly started by newbies who haven't ever really seen a bad player before.

It works when the opposition players get booed!

Were any of the boo's coming from the same people who booed Richardson after he had fairly won a corner. Most baffling moment of the night!

To be honest I think this arguement has run its course now, both sides of the arguement have been said and for what its worth I think the original arguement is strongest. Football is a performance based buisiness and Seol hasnt performed to his best for a few months now. He has shown he is a capable player though and I look forward to the day where I can come on he and say how well he has been playing of late whilst eating some humble pie!

The same that boo the opposition for 'diving' after he's clattered by our centre half and then scream for a penalty after ANOTHER Doyle dive.

Seol was crap yesterday, not gonna defend him for that, he's not impressed of late, (Brum away apart) but still there was absolutely no excuse to boo him. Mindless.

The reason for the booing is to get to him and wind him up so he performs better in the future and has a point to prove. Lita came in for some stick and even Coppell told him to up his performances and he's now playing superbly and has been arguably our best player since Boxing Day.

At last he admits it.

Royalee, we have a manager who, it is generally accepted, takes a calm considered approach, he doesnt rant and rave in order to wind players up so that they perform better in the future. He has said that this doesnt work. All the players comment on his positive rather than negative approach

But hey why listen to the most successful manager in our history when Royalee knows better.

Now will I get a response to this - or will Royalee having got his fingers burnt in the past think better of it!

[tomrfcurz]

thinks his own skill is poor !!!

[SpaceCruiser]

Now will I get a response to this - or will Royalee having got his fingers burnt in the past think better of it!

Royalee is just a twat. Surely everybody knows this.

[Charles Dapper]

Charles Dapper wrote:
From my humble position in the east stand, behind the linesman who awaiting for his new glasses.

When Seol went off I couldn't hear any booing through the loud shouts for Blakey.

Seol had an awlful game. Doesn't show any drive. Hates a tackle gives the ball away to easy.

While I talking of such characteristics did no one notice that yet again Mr Oster had an awlful game until Hunt was hanging around on the side waiting to come on.


No! I'd show you the video of the game so that you could reconsider - only my sodding recorder didn't work! Crying or Very sad

sorry to hear that, but mine did the same. To which bit of my statement do you refer? Was I completely wrong?

[Only one Trevor Morley]

Charles Dapper wrote:
From my humble position in the east stand, behind the linesman who awaiting for his new glasses.

When Seol went off I couldn't hear any booing through the loud shouts for Blakey.

Seol had an awlful game. Doesn't show any drive. Hates a tackle gives the ball away to easy.

While I talking of such characteristics did no one notice that yet again Mr Oster had an awlful game until Hunt was hanging around on the side waiting to come on.


No! I'd show you the video of the game so that you could reconsider - only my sodding recorder didn't work! Crying or Very sad

sorry to hear that, but mine did the same. To which bit of my statement do you refer? Was I completely wrong?

What the.......

[willz_royal]

i wasnt booing seol, i was cheering for him going off and shouting whole heartedly for glen "li-aw" i hope coppell sense that little is one of our best players and now gives him more of a chance over seol

[tomrfcurz]

i wasnt booing seol, i was cheering for him going off and shouting whole heartedly for glen "li-aw" i hope coppell sense that little is one of our best players and now gives him more of a chance over seol

it wasnt that coppell didnt give him a chance it was the fact that this was coppell's cup side

[Spirit of Elm Park]

I think anyone who was there last night saw that Seol's performance was not that expected by a Reading Player "these days".

He exasperates many by his style. Since October? He does not get stuck in, he stands off his man, he allows people too much room. He does not get back to help out, is weak in the tackle and often switches off allowing his man to get away from him in dangerous areas, therefore he is not in the team for his Defending ability. When attacking, on numerous occasions, instead of bursting into the space created on the flanks to then use his undoubted crossing ability, he cuts back, and stands still, allowing any advantage we had for a quick break to dissapear. Too often his touch lets him down and the ball rolls harmlessly into touch. When shorey/murts has the ball, they are expecting him to run into the forward space, and yet he insists on standing directly in their line of passage and causing the whole thing to box up. Invariably he receives the ball, goes square and loses the ball weakly.

Given the above, my question.....As he doesn't have the defensive attributes of a Gunnarson/Harps/Sids etc, or the attacking guile/flair of an Little/Oster/ why is he in the team? What does he actually offer Reading Football club, other than access to the Asian market?

At the moment I would suggest very little. He came with a bang, lit us up for a few weeks, since then he has been the only player in the squad IMO, who has beleived his own hype and who's performance level has dropped accordingly.

My Message to Seol would be " Buck your ideas up son, if you want to be part of this set up the other side of next summer, we need to see, commitment, passion and a desire to work, not only for your fellow teamates but for the 22000 that pay to watch you every other week, and for the millions at home who idolise you. Wallowing in self pity for being left out of the first team will not win your place back.....Earn it"

Reading Football club has no room for makeweights.

[Skyline]

The reason for the booing is to get to him and wind him up so he performs better in the future and has a point to prove.

Do you have a job? If so, please tell us where so we can organize a few thousand people to come to your office and boo and jeer you as you are doing it. By your logic that would make you work better and harder, so I'm sure your boss would be delighted.