Slow Ki-Hyeon does the job

[Rhys The Royal]

Hmm, who sent the cross in for Kitson's winner against Newcastle?



(him^^^)

[Y21_Royal]

Seol created plenty of chances for us again on Saturday - describe those he created for Watford?

How about the second goal where he was so far out of position and so slow in getting back that in gave Watford a free cross into the box?

Halford's fault, and then mainly Hahnemann's Seol was closing down one player and Halford had backed off leaving the 2nd player in space.

It was hardly Halford's fault! He got bugger all defensive cover from Seol all game. On that occasion he was out numbered because Seol was ambling about in front of him. Seol is completely inept at the back and offers no support to his full back, hence why DLC has been playing with him.

[1871royals]

You have got to respect Hunt for taking his chance and giving it his all. Even though they play on opposite sides in comparison I believe Seol has the potential to contribute more. Hunt started 26 (7), 4 goals 4 assists. Seol started 20(5), 4 goals 3 assists. So Hunt playing at his maximum in more games has set up juz 1 more goal than Seol. I believe Hunt will not play any better but Seol can push on even further. Earlier in the season Seol contributed massively and won us games whilst the other players were finding their feet at this level. IMO Hunt has not won games for us but played well only when the others stepped up. I think Coppell shall work on Seol like Lita and he will be brill 4 us. Seol is not a typical rfc player, hes got that technical ability that players like Hunt do not have. I like Hunt but still think he is a squad man. Everyone can agree Seol has not played to his potential but he has still almost contributed as much as Hunt . Also anyone with good fitness levels can run around all day.

[Victor Meldrew]

My grouse about Seol is nothing to do with his defending,after all Little,Oster and Convey are all very weak in that area.
What I dislike is his slowing the game down when we are on the break allowing the other side to get back and cover.
This is where Little is different (neither have much pace) in that he immediately takes on the full-back and his crosses often go to front men also on the move,not stopping to wait for Seol to catch up with the action.

Seol can be as effective in beating a defender and his crossing is decent but he won't get many better chances to shine than against an ageing right-back playing out of position (Carr) or against an old age pensioner like Powell.
I haven't given up on Seol yet but if he can up his tempo I would like him to play wide left with Little wide right and Hunt to be used as a sub after 60 minutes (normally Little's maximum) for either of them.
BTW is he allowed to shoot any more?
Who can forget the long range effort at West Ham?

[West Stand Man]

people just make up their minds they don`t like a player, and no matter what that player does they will not change their opinions, it was the same with Andy Hughes, dig your f*cking head out of the sand and looking at performances rather than the man, I counted at least 6 times when golden boy Hunt gave away cheap possesion on Saturday but I dont see his own thread here..sorry I was forgetting, he runs around like a headless chicken flying into tacklrs so that makes him a good player!!!

The frustrating thing is that Seol has far more ability than Hunt, but plays no better due to his lack of effort. I have, however, pointed out in the past that just because Hunt puts in maximum effort (which I respect), it does not mean he is anywhere near the best player on the park every week.

We lost on Saturday because we played with no wingers, meaning Seol and Hunt were BOTH poor. However, I am more angry at Seol than Hunt because Hunt has his limitations, whereas Seol has the ability to be easily one of the best players at the club, but wastes his talent. Seol is not crap, but he needs to up his effort just like Lita did in order to contribute to our team to the required level - you can't carry passengers at this level.

Just spotted your location - and it explains so much. Bournemouth Uni, now there's a hotbed of academia; or maybe it is a dumping ground for people who couldn't get into a real university. I'll go for the latter.

[Royalee]

people just make up their minds they don`t like a player, and no matter what that player does they will not change their opinions, it was the same with Andy Hughes, dig your f*cking head out of the sand and looking at performances rather than the man, I counted at least 6 times when golden boy Hunt gave away cheap possesion on Saturday but I dont see his own thread here..sorry I was forgetting, he runs around like a headless chicken flying into tacklrs so that makes him a good player!!!

The frustrating thing is that Seol has far more ability than Hunt, but plays no better due to his lack of effort. I have, however, pointed out in the past that just because Hunt puts in maximum effort (which I respect), it does not mean he is anywhere near the best player on the park every week.

We lost on Saturday because we played with no wingers, meaning Seol and Hunt were BOTH poor. However, I am more angry at Seol than Hunt because Hunt has his limitations, whereas Seol has the ability to be easily one of the best players at the club, but wastes his talent. Seol is not crap, but he needs to up his effort just like Lita did in order to contribute to our team to the required level - you can't carry passengers at this level.

Just spotted your location - and it explains so much. Bournemouth Uni, now there's a hotbed of academia; or maybe it is a dumping ground for people who couldn't get into a real university. I'll go for the latter.

*Yawn* Come back when you actually have an argument as to why Seol isn't lazy as opposed to a rubbish attempt at an insult.

[West Stand Man]

Not an insult - merely a statement of fact. If you'd stick to facts about Seol we'd be on a par.

[Royalee]

Not an insult - merely a statement of fact. If you'd stick to facts about Seol we'd be on a par.

Go and tell that to our coaching staff as well - I'm sure they'll admit to your superior football knowledge.

[readingfc_4_life_and_beyo]

If Seol put in more effort, and made better decisions he'd get more opportunities to shine. FACT. Other than the odd cross that leads to a goal, many crosses which lead to a few goals.

[cmonurz]

Seol reminds me a lot of Tony Rougier. Absolutely bucketfuls of talent (Rouge was the best dribbler of a footballer I have seen at this club) but wasted by their playing style.

As above, Seol lets the play catch up with, giving himself more to do and losing the impetus of our attack. If he can solve this, he could be ever-present.

[Elm Park Old Boy]

I find the negativity about Seol depressing. On Monday at the Newcastle game, virtually every time he had the ball someone near me was moaning about how useless he was, usually before he had a chance to do anything!

Maybe the opposition know something - I noticed they doubled up on him all the time. But still the whingers complaiend when he passed to someone free instead of instantly beating both defenders.

Give him a break - he's got a lot of talent and can still give us a lot.

[RoyalBlue]

My main criticsm of Seol on Saturday was his allowing Foster to beat him to the ball when he was going for goal. Foster is an excellent keeeper but I believe even he would have been beaten if Seol had passed it back to his oncoming team mate (can't remember who) who would have had an open goal to shoot at.

Try watching it in real-time again and see whether it really would have been that easy! These things always look so simple in slow motion!

Seol created plenty of chances for us again on Saturday - describe those he created for Watford?

How about the second goal where he was so far out of position and so slow in getting back that in gave Watford a free cross into the box?

Halford's fault, and then mainly Hahnemann's Seol was closing down one player and Halford had backed off leaving the 2nd player in space.

It was hardly Halford's fault! He got bugger all defensive cover from Seol all game. On that occasion he was out numbered because Seol was ambling about in front of him. Seol is completely inept at the back and offers no support to his full back, hence why DLC has been playing with him.

Of course it was Seol's fault as is everything else* the moment he steps onto the pitch!

* in some fools' eyes.

[Coppelled Streets]

Much rather see a youngster get a game at right wing, or Halford and Del Boy at right back. Anything but Soel.

[Behindu]

Much rather see a youngster get a game at right wing, or Halford and Del Boy at right back. Anything but Soel.

Seol is consdierably better than any of our youngsters (currently). Next season James Henry may be pushing, but right now I can;t see the point in fielding a weakened side for no good reason..

[Coppelled Streets]

Much rather see a youngster get a game at right wing, or Halford and Del Boy at right back. Anything but Soel.

Seol is consdierably better than any of our youngsters (currently). Next season James Henry may be pushing, but right now I can;t see the point in fielding a weakened side for no good reason..

Even though we don't want Europe?

[brendywendy]

he played ok, varies his game, doesnt attempt the same thing each time
gets past players more often than not, passes back and keeps possession when nothings on, and holds the ball up well waiting for support in the box
he has also added more running, and tackling to his game but no one gives credit
despite hunt being far more wasteful, little being just as slow, and not quite as good as he was in his last few matches
its just double standards, i get so sick of the whingers i have to doubly support seol when he does something good just to piss thgem off, even though im not his biggest fan myself.

[seahawk10]

I find the negativity about Seol depressing. On Monday at the Newcastle game, virtually every time he had the ball someone near me was moaning about how useless he was, usually before he had a chance to do anything!

Maybe the opposition know something - I noticed they doubled up on him all the time. But still the whingers complaiend when he passed to someone free instead of instantly beating both defenders.

Give him a break - he's got a lot of talent and can still give us a lot.

I feel the same way. Although I am not really depressed by the Seol negativity. It doesn't bother me. I am used to it by now. Coppell and the staff are working hard getting Seol to track back and play better defense. The article where Seol talks about him needing to run more is evidence of that. And he did a good job of this in the Newcastle and Bolton games recently. Seol is one of our most creative players on the ball. He is one of the few we have that actually can get through a double-team and is very dangerous in space. And if he is back with the team next year (and I think there is a very good chance he will be) people should realize that is because Steve Coppell wants him back and realizes how valuable he is (so maybe the Seol bashers will give it a rest). And if he isn't back, then us Seol supporters will have been proved wrong and can stop defending him. In Coppell we trust!

[RoyalBlue]

he played ok, varies his game, doesnt attempt the same thing each time
gets past players more often than not, passes back and keeps possession when nothings on, and holds the ball up well waiting for support in the box
he has also added more running, and tackling to his game but no one gives credit
despite hunt being far more wasteful, little being just as slow, and not quite as good as he was in his last few matches
its just double standards, i get so sick of the whingers i have to doubly support seol when he does something good just to piss thgem off, even though im not his biggest fan myself.

Likewise - I'm tempted to get a shirt with his name on, just to pee them off.

My kids have taken to loudly criticising him when he has clearly done something good i.e. the cross for the Newcastle goal 'Seol, why did you cross it like that - you're useless!!!' just to make a point to the Seol boo boys who sit around us in Y21.

[zac naloen]

I'm just as bad at shouting at Hahnemann as some people are at shouting at Seol half the time, I find his ability to spot players to be poor, often I along with a few others now have shouted "THROW IT TO SEOL!!!" (for example) for him to finally look up and see Seol bombing it up into a counter-attacking position.

[Billy The Fish]

I came to the conclusion a long time ago that the only reason some people go to watch football is to have a moan and a whinge (fair enough, they've paid for their ticket). And one day they pick somebody for some perceived shortcoming, and then whatever that player does forever more they will shout obscenities at him. There's a guy in front of me who hates Kitson with a passion. What's that about?
The Seol haters really piss me off though, he's a great player, albeit not in the Andy Hughes mould.