Corners!!!

[Hoop Blah]

I've not seen the stats but I'd say we're a lot more dangerous from corners the last couple of years than we have been in recent history.

I don't understand why Hunt gets involved in so many corners and free kicks though. Between them Harper and Shorey, and Convey if he's playing, should be ensuring Hunt gets nowhere near a deadball situation.

As for the near post/first defender comments. Most of the goals we've scored from corners, from memory, seem to be near post routines. Although we should be better at hitting that specific spot from a deadball, you have to remember that the other team are there to try and stop it happening and in this day and age they're well briefed on how we go about things on set piecec. I happen to think this is one of those areas where teams are better prepared against us this season as opposed to last year.

I'd love to see the stats on goals scored from corners from all teams though.

[Howser17]

I'd love to see the stats on goals scored from corners from all teams though.[/quote]


Ive had a look, but can't find it anywher. If anyone can get hold of these stats, would be rather interesting.

[jumpers for goalposts]

I would say that in terms of technique, the guys taking the corners are not good enough. Hunt and Shorey are at best ordinary premier league players. I would like to see Matejovsky have a go, or even Harper for that matter, as he is technically better than both Shorey or Hunt, despite his lack of a good 'football brain' on the whole

[Archie's penalty]

I would say that in terms of technique, the guys taking the corners are not good enough. Hunt and Shorey are at best ordinary premier league players. I would like to see Matejovsky have a go, or even Harper for that matter, as he is technically better than both Shorey or Hunt, despite his lack of a good 'football brain' on the whole

I completely disagree about Shorey - his corners are very good in general. Off the top of my head this year his corner set up goals against Fulham and Tottenham.

We have to stop Hunty taking them and get Matejovsky involved...

[LoyalRoyalFan]

have you noticed that we do not put someone to get the follow on if nobody gets the corner.
Then we could put a quick fire ball back on.

[Chuckle Brother]

Has to be Shorey in my opinion. From both sides. People like Matejovsky and Hunt should be on the edge of the box waiting for half-clearances to get a shot away or look for a pass. Exactly what Everton did to us last week.

[Howser17]

I have no problems with Shorey taking them, would like to see Harper take some as well though. Hunt's role is definitely on the edge of the box, from there he has an opportunity to have a shot and also able to chase back if required.

[Cpl Jones Dont panic]

Let Bikey take them, at least he will clear the 1st defender...

And the 2nd , and the opposing corner flag, and the stand... and the Hexagon

[Fezza]

Sorry but you can't have Bikey taking corners that would put him far to close to the medical team and other people wearing "hi vis".

[Tilehurst End]

I'd love to see the stats on goals scored from corners from all teams though.

Ive had a look, but can't find it anywher. If anyone can get hold of these stats, would be rather interesting.[/quote]

Not sure about the goals to corners ratios but I remember seeing a stat earlier in the season that only had Man U and Arsenal ahead of us in number of corners won.

[Howser17]

Just found the match reprts for the season, and so far reading have had a total of 177 corners, giving them an average of about 7 corners per game. Their lowest number of corners in a game was 3, against man u (o-o) and Derby (W1-0), and the highest numbers were 13 during the 0-2 defeat to Bolton, and 14 during our 0-3 defeat against Wast Ham. This gives them a ratio of about 1 goal every 35 corners . (this is based on them scoring 5 from corners this season, however im not sure about this figure)

[Hoop Blah]

I found one set of stats which is quite interesting. Not sure on their accuracy but this is the table for goals scored from dead balls so includes free kicks as well as corners. It doesn't include penalties though.

Team F A
Villa 16 9
Spurs 14 18
Reading 13 9
United 12 3
Everton 10 7
Blackburn 9 9
Fulham 9 9
Arsenal 8 4
Birmingham 8 9
Bolton 7 9
Liverpool 7 8
Wigan 7 8
Newcastle 6 10
Chelsea 5 4
City 5 5
Sunderland 5 10
West Ham 5 7
Boro 4 7
Pompey 4 4
Derby 3 8


These came from http://premiersoccerstats.com/TeamGoals ... ME=Reading and apparently go up to the start of Feb only.

[Howser17]

Just found the match reprts for the season, and so far reading have had a total of 177 corners, giving them an average of about 7 corners per game. Their lowest number of corners in a game was 3, against man u (o-o) and Derby (W1-0), and the highest numbers were 13 during the 0-2 defeat to Bolton, and 14 during our 0-3 defeat against Wast Ham. This gives them a ratio of about 1 goal every 35 corners . (this is based on them scoring 5 from corners this season, however im not sure about this figure)

It's telling that we got so many corners and still got comfortably beaten! We must've been doing something right but just not managing to find the end product...

Tell me about it, against west ham, stats wise, we beat them on pretty much everything bar goals, which unfortunately is what counts. However, according to Wikapedia corners were going to replace pens at one stage. Come the end of a game, instead of having a penalty shoot out, the team which has had the most corners would be presumed to have been the dominant side and be given the win. Wikapedia comes out with some good ones, but that is one of the best that i have read!

[Howser17]

I found one set of stats which is quite interesting. Not sure on their accuracy but this is the table for goals scored from dead balls so includes free kicks as well as corners. It doesn't include penalties though.

Team F A
Villa 16 9
Spurs 14 18
Reading 13 9
United 12 3
Everton 10 7
Blackburn 9 9
Fulham 9 9
Arsenal 8 4
Birmingham 8 9
Bolton 7 9
Liverpool 7 8
Wigan 7 8
Newcastle 6 10
Chelsea 5 4
City 5 5
Sunderland 5 10
West Ham 5 7
Boro 4 7
Pompey 4 4
Derby 3 8


These came from http://premiersoccerstats.com/TeamGoals ... ME=Reading and apparently go up to the start of Feb only.

That is quite interesting. However in terms of accuracy, it was stated a few posts ago : - "It was the 20th goal Villa have scored from a free-kick or corner this season". Although this would probably include cup games where as the above figures are only league i presume. Anyway, 13 goals from dead balls, thats almost half of our goals.

[Hoop Blah]

That is quite interesting. However in terms of accuracy, it was stated a few posts ago : - "It was the 20th goal Villa have scored from a free-kick or corner this season". Although this would probably include cup games where as the above figures are only league i presume. Anyway, 13 goals from dead balls, thats almost half of our goals.

So you think the 20th setpeice goal is 100% correct then?

I'm sure I read/heard different figures around the time of our game. Anyway, either way, I'm not sure how accurate the table I posted is but as long as they're consistent in the way they've counted the stats then it shows a decent comparison, and we actually look quite dangerous from set pieces ourselves, which isn't what I'd have expected.

[Howser17]

That is quite interesting. However in terms of accuracy, it was stated a few posts ago : - "It was the 20th goal Villa have scored from a free-kick or corner this season". Although this would probably include cup games where as the above figures are only league i presume. Anyway, 13 goals from dead balls, thats almost half of our goals.

So you think the 20th setpeice goal is 100% correct then?

I'm sure I read/heard different figures around the time of our game. Anyway, either way, I'm not sure how accurate the table I posted is but as long as they're consistent in the way they've counted the stats then it shows a decent comparison, and we actually look quite dangerous from set pieces ourselves, which isn't what I'd have expected.

Prob is pretty accurate. The difference in figures (give or take 1-2), is most likely due to those supplying stats about the 2007/08 premire league season, and those supplying stats about the season as a whole, including all cup games etc. Both lots of stats are prob relatively accurate.

Would never have guessed that we would be so high in the table you posted though, so close to Villa who are being referred as dead ball experts - we're not doing to bad.

[Schards#2]

I have never played above a decent park level, however, I can take a corner that will not hit the first man 999 times out of 1000. Why do our heroes have such difficulty in achieving this? WTF do they do in training?

And another thing, when you're 60 minutes + in and barely had an attempt at goal all day, when you're in space 20 odd yards out HAVE A F**KING SHOT FOR F**KS SAKE