SC hasn't a clue.

[Vision]

We could have gambled more but between them Coppell, Hammond and Madejski chose not to. Fine as far as I'm concerned but if people want to lay the blame for relegation solely at the door of Coppell then thats down to them. Manager takes responsibility of course but surely its only a blinkered (dare i say dogmatic) few that can't see there are a culmination of factors at work as well.

Agreed Vision but don't forget that Coppell repeatedly said that it was his decision not to spend the money available to him as he didn't think there was anything better out there than what he had available.

I agree it's unlikely that we'll stretch our wage structure enough to attract the likes of Heskey, James etc but I'm sure we could've gone for the likes of Cahill and Taylor that played key roles in keeping Bolton up (examples of effective Prem players not necessarily who we needed).

It's our inability to successfully spend our budget and replace the key cogs we lost that cost us. We spent money at times, but on players that just weren't ready or weren't suitable for what we needed.

Coppell's a diplomat though isn't he. He never discloses exactly how much he had for obvious reasons. Also in terms of transfer fees it was always a case of he and Hammond decide on a player then they make a case to JM. Cahill was hardly proven at this level, Taylor more so and equally Gary O'Neill who ended up at Boro were all being bandied about at around 5m mark and wages that were on a par at the very least with our top earners. Changing managers getting McFadden for 5.5m and Zarate 40k a week on loan wasn't enough to stop Birmingham sinking last season.

Its not a game we as a club were prepared to enter into.

[Woodcote Royal]

So Reading are 5th in the table of clubs of similar stature.

Considering there are about 40 odd clubs of Readings stature and potential, maybe more, we are definitely doing very well.

Reading's board has the most cautious approach to football finance (compared to the 4 clubs listed above) and there is no doubt that it affects the outcome on the pitch.

I really don't think there is anyone out there who could replicate what Coppell is achieving under Readings unique circumstances. He is doing a truly amazing job.

All this ridiculously high expectation has been created by one truly sensational season that was a one off in not just the history of Reading but the history of any club.

5th in the Championship is a spectacular achievement for a club like Reading.

Do you write this sort of nonsense for a bet?

Have you never heard of parachute payments?

After 2 seasons in the top flight and the resulting £10m? safety net we are currently enjoying, there is absolutely sod all similarity in the respective statures of clubs like Reading and Blackpool or even biggers clubs such as Southampton, Norwich and Ipswich etc, for whom parachute payments have now expired.

Add this to our largely intact Premiership squad that we kept following our totally avoidable relegation and it really beggars belief just how far Coppell's apologists are willing to go to distort the truth, in order to defend the errors he made that have led to 2 seasons as spectacular in their failure as the previous two were in their success.

[brendywendy]

apoLOLogists!



just stop though, we get it, youre not that keen

[Woodcote Royal]

And we get that you are........................

[brendywendy]

And we get that you are........................

bored of your constant repetition of the same thing?


are you blind by the way
only today i actually posted the words coppell out

[boy1985]

And we get that you are........................

Who'd you want to take over from Mr Clueless?

[Hoop Blah]

Coppell's a diplomat though isn't he. He never discloses exactly how much he had for obvious reasons. Also in terms of transfer fees it was always a case of he and Hammond decide on a player then they make a case to JM. Cahill was hardly proven at this level, Taylor more so and equally Gary O'Neill who ended up at Boro were all being bandied about at around 5m mark and wages that were on a par at the very least with our top earners. Changing managers getting McFadden for 5.5m and Zarate 40k a week on loan wasn't enough to stop Birmingham sinking last season.

Its not a game we as a club were prepared to enter into.

I'm not saying we could have guaranteed survival by spending an additional £5m on a player or two, but I do think we would've stood a better chance.

At the end of the day a manager is judged on two things, results and his transfer dealings. I don't think Coppell had much success on either front last season and whilst I agree the club wouldn't have had the most finacial clout I'm sure Coppell had enough at his disposal to have given us a great chance of improving the squad and with it our chances of survival.

[brendywendy]

id have thought that copps is seen as some sort of transfer genius by a large proportion of other football clubs managers

[Woodcote Royal]

And we get that you are........................

Who'd you want to take over from Mr Clueless?

I'm happy to leave that in Squeeky's capable hands but would definitely prefer those who have previous connections with the club........................Rodgers and Sanchez, for instance, but don't think Parky is ready yet.

[Schards#2]

So Reading are 5th in the table of clubs of similar stature.

Considering there are about 40 odd clubs of Readings stature and potential, maybe more, we are definitely doing very well.

Reading's board has the most cautious approach to football finance (compared to the 4 clubs listed above) and there is no doubt that it affects the outcome on the pitch.

I really don't think there is anyone out there who could replicate what Coppell is achieving under Readings unique circumstances. He is doing a truly amazing job.

All this ridiculously high expectation has been created by one truly sensational season that was a one off in not just the history of Reading but the history of any club.

5th in the Championship is a spectacular achievement for a club like Reading.

Do you right this sort of nonsense for a bet?

Have you never heard of parachute payments?

After 2 seasons in the top flight and the resulting £10m? safety net we are currently enjoying, there is absolutely sod all similarity in the respective statures of Reading and clubs like Blackpool or even big clubs like Southampton, Norwich, Ipswich etc for whom parachute payments have now expired.

Add this to our largely intact Premiershop squad that we kept following our totally avoidable relegation and it really beggars belief just how far Coppell's apologists are willing to go to distort the truth, in order to defend the errors he made that have led to 2 seasons as spectacular in their failure as the previous two were in their success.

So how much of this parachute payment did Coppell get to see? As from where i'm sitting, we didn't spend half of the fees we received for Kitson and Shorey, let alone touch any parachute payment.

Chalk another up on the LOL's along with

"we don't miss Sidwell"

"this squad is better than the 2005/6 squad"

"Sanchez could do a good job"

and many many more

[boy1985]

"we don't miss Sidwell"

"this squad is better than the 2005/6 squad"

I can't be bothered reading back but anyone who agrees with these 2 statements must be a bit head mental and for that reason i am OUT.

[Schards#2]

"we don't miss Sidwell"

"this squad is better than the 2005/6 squad"

I can't be bothered reading back but anyone who agrees with these 2 statements must be a bit head mental and that reason i am OUT.

To the best of my knowledge, there's only one person on the planet who does - the comedian that just keeps on giving, the one, the only Woodcote RoyaLOL

[ankeny]

"we don't miss Sidwell"

"this squad is better than the 2005/6 squad"

I can't be bothered reading back but anyone who agrees with these 2 statements must be a bit head mental and that reason i am OUT.

Dont miss Sidwell,is he mad.Thats the reason we are where we are,struggling to make the play offs and thats why we were relegated.Get Paul Jewell in he knows the Prem and the championship inside out.

[Royal_Belly]

I'm happy to leave that in Squeeky's capable hands but would definitely prefer those who have previous connections with the club........................Rodgers and Sanchez, for instance, but don't think Parky is ready yet.

Sanchez .... no way hosé!!!

[Woodcote Royal]

So how much of this parachute payment did Coppell get to see?

Far more than he elected to spend, as has been the case for at least the last 3 seasons.

That was the end of this village idiots response to HNA's resident 2 year old.

[brendywendy]

im confused-which one are you?

[Woodcote Royal]

Is it my fault you can't read?

[boy1985]

Is it my fault you can't read?

[Royal_Belly]

im confused-which one are you?

Obviously the village idiot Brendy!!

[Hoop Blah]

id have thought that copps is seen as some sort of transfer genius by a large proportion of other football clubs managers

No idea. He's generally well thought of obviously, as he is here, but I remember the Palace fans saying similar things to us/Coppell about his inability to break up a side in decline and rebuild it.

So how much of this parachute payment did Coppell get to see? As from where i'm sitting, we didn't spend half of the fees we received for Kitson and Shorey, let alone touch any parachute payment.

Enlighten us? How much did he get?