Shane Long

[brendywendy]

What you said wasn't that they were all individually capable of scoring them but that they could all do it in the same season playing for us......was a load of rubbish

he said could, not would


doyle nearly 20, nhunt close, would have got there by now barring injury, still could
& long could be close if he gets a couple of hatricks in the lasttwo games to send us up!

[Archie's penalty]

...also, great to see Snowball back to update a stat in support of one of his claims after a bit of a break from the board when everything else he came up with was shown to be as reliable as a flying Malian winger!

Who set up the first goal yesterday with a great cross!

[brendywendy]

how manys that this season?


not bad for a pub player

[Hoop Blah]

...also, great to see Snowball back to update a stat in support of one of his claims after a bit of a break from the board when everything else he came up with was shown to be as reliable as a flying Malian winger!

Who set up the first goal yesterday with a great cross!

You seem to have overlooked the key word reliable.

Yes Kebe has created a number of our goals this season and been quite effective at times. Unfortunately at other times he's been absolutely shocking and if Snowball had a stat on Kebe's f*ck up to decent ball ration I'm sure it would be a little on the poor side.

If he were reliable his crossing and general play wouldn't be quite so inconsistent.

[Hoop Blah]

What you said wasn't that they were all individually capable of scoring them but that they could all do it in the same season playing for us......was a load of rubbish

he said could, not would


doyle nearly 20, nhunt close, would have got there by now barring injury, still could
& long could be close if he gets a couple of hatricks in the lasttwo games to send us up!

This was in relation to last season not this and the discussion was about the likelihood of it happening.

From memory I think the top four, with all their attacking talents and success (in fact anyone in recent top flight memory), had all failed to achieve what was being suggested it was quite bizarre suggestion that we'd succeed where everyone else had failed.

[Sun Tzu]

I'm sure they would have tried harder if they new it was so important !

There is no reason on earth why a team can't share it's goals around. If 2 strikers can get 60 goals then 4 can get 60. Number of games makes no odds as it's constant however many players you have.

[SteveRoyal]

Sounds like he played well (again) last night.
Maybe he's a late bloomer (in terms of footballing ability).

[brendywendy]

i think hes actually getting there!

[Sarah Star]

Let's keep him.

[SteveRoyal]

Let's keep him.

Yes, let's.
It will be funny to look back at this thread in a year or so's time and laugh at all the nutjobs who slagged him off.

[Hoop Blah]

I'm sure they would have tried harder if they new it was so important !

There is no reason on earth why a team can't share it's goals around. If 2 strikers can get 60 goals then 4 can get 60. Number of games makes no odds as it's constant however many players you have.

There's no reason why a man can't run 100 meters in under 5 seconds but it doesn't mean it's likely happen!!!

The whole team didn't score 60 goals the season before so how you think just the front two/4 are likely to chip in with that many is beyond me.

To be fair, I think the arguement was how many would get into double figures for league goals (you thought it was probable that we'd get all three forwards achieving it). It was still massively unlikely to happen because it just doesn't happen. Not enough goals are scored for it to happen, especially for a team like Reading.

As it happens, United actually got 3 players into double figures last season (Ronaldo 31, Tevez 14 and Rooney 12). It think that's just about the first time they've managed during the Premiership!

[brendywendy]

There's no reason why a man can't run 100 meters in under 5 seconds

yes there is



multiple reasons

[Hoop Blah]

Go on then....give us a few.

I'm sure they said the same about going sub-10 seconds and the 4 minute mile!

It just means they have to run much much faster than any humman has run before!

[Sun Tzu]

I'm not sure why this is kicking off again

4 players all with the potential to get a certain number of goals.

Not a hard concept ?

But bizarre to be exercising people this far down the line !!!

[Ian Royal]

I'm not sure why this is kicking off again

4 players all with the potential to get a certain number of goals.

Not a hard concept ?

But bizarre to be exercising people this far down the line !!!

Ignoring that I'd argue Long is capable of breaking 15, I could accept each are individually capable of breaching 15. But there is no way 4 strikers would achieve that at the same club, in the same season. Even in below the Premier League that would require 4 strikers averaging better than a goal every 2 games.

46 games + say 6 cup games to be generous, 2 strikers start each game, so that's 26 games each. 15 goals in 26 starts and x sub appearances.

Relatively few individual strikers manage that sort of strike rate!

[Sun Tzu]

I'm not sure why this is kicking off again

4 players all with the potential to get a certain number of goals.

Not a hard concept ?

But bizarre to be exercising people this far down the line !!!

Ignoring that I'd argue Long is capable of breaking 15, I could accept each are individually capable of breaching 15. But there is no way 4 strikers would achieve that at the same club, in the same season. Even in below the Premier League that would require 4 strikers averaging better than a goal every 2 games.

46 games + say 6 cup games to be generous, 2 strikers start each game, so that's 26 games each. 15 goals in 26 starts and x sub appearances.

Relatively few individual strikers manage that sort of strike rate!

If 2 strikers can get 60 why can't 4 get 15 each ?

The maths is the same.

If Ronaldo, Torres, Rooney and Gerrard played for us they would get 15 each.

[Ian Royal]

05/06
- 111 goals - 54 games

Kitson 22
Doyle 19
Lita 15
Sidwell 10


About as close as you're ever likely to get, certainly at Reading.

[Ian Royal]

I'm not sure why this is kicking off again

4 players all with the potential to get a certain number of goals.

Not a hard concept ?

But bizarre to be exercising people this far down the line !!!

Ignoring that I'd argue Long is capable of breaking 15, I could accept each are individually capable of breaching 15. But there is no way 4 strikers would achieve that at the same club, in the same season. Even in below the Premier League that would require 4 strikers averaging better than a goal every 2 games.

46 games + say 6 cup games to be generous, 2 strikers start each game, so that's 26 games each. 15 goals in 26 starts and x sub appearances.

Relatively few individual strikers manage that sort of strike rate!

If 2 strikers can get 60 why can't 4 get 15 each ?

The maths is the same.

If Ronaldo, Torres, Rooney and Gerrard played for us they would get 15 each.

Because it requires 4 strikers with unbelievably prolific strike rates rather than 2.

It's just bollocks.

Firstly you have no idea how well those players would combine and secondly they'd be playing at a level massively below their quality. There is no way combining those 4 players in the Premier League would see those scores.

[papereyes]

LOL!

[Sun Tzu]

Firstly you have no idea how well those players would combine and secondly they'd be playing at a level massively below their quality. There is no way combining those 4 players in the Premier League would see those scores.

We aren't in the Premier League though....

And the whole point of the discussion was that we potentially had 4 strikers capable of a decent scoring rate.

As has been pointed out, we've pretty nearly achieved it once before.

If a team scores 100 goals in a season it is just as likely that several players each scored plenty as one scored millions.