Worst attacking options since January 2000

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Sun Tzu » 07 Dec 2009 21:58

If you pick Kitson at his best then he's clearly better than Rasiak.

The Kitson we had on loan last season was not a better player than the Rasiak we have now.

I'd take a forward who scores goals over one who didn't, given the option !

And if we never have the budget to pay for players how did we manage to get Rasiak (who seems to be in decent goal scoring form ) and MAcAnuff, who seems to be setting the goals up ?

I always find RoyalBlue good for a laugh, even if he's posts often appear to have been placed on the wrong club's board due to some glitch in hyperspace. I suspect he's really an Orient fan or something and has misfiled a link in his Favourites

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Terminal Boardom » 07 Dec 2009 22:13

There. Is. No. Money.

The. Cloth. Has. Been. Cut.

End. Of. Thread.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by RoyalBlue » 07 Dec 2009 22:41

Sun Tzu If you pick Kitson at his best then he's clearly better than Rasiak.

The Kitson we had on loan last season was not a better player than the Rasiak we have now.

I'd take a forward who scores goals over one who didn't, given the option !

And if we never have the budget to pay for players how did we manage to get Rasiak (who seems to be in decent goal scoring form ) and MAcAnuff, who seems to be setting the goals up ?

I always find RoyalBlue good for a laugh, even if he's posts often appear to have been placed on the wrong club's board due to some glitch in hyperspace. I suspect he's really an Orient fan or something and has misfiled a link in his Favourites


Better good for a laugh than a complete joke!

Of course we have a budget but the one your hero has set is completely unrealistic for success and possibly even survival at this level. Just look at the quality of players we have let go, compared with those that now populate our squad. And, guess what, the clubs they went to are doing far better than ours.

Hopefully when Madejski finally realises that he can't have his cake (fame and adulation) and eat it (retrieve the money he spent in getting the former) and pisses off, you will still be firmly stuck up his backside and unable to escape in time.

As for misfiled links - shouldn't yours be directing you to Madejski's facebook?

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by tink » 08 Dec 2009 00:40

RoyalBlue Of course we have a budget but the one your hero has set is completely unrealistic for success and possibly even survival at this level. Just look at the quality of players we have let go, compared with those that now populate our squad. And, guess what, the clubs they went to are doing far better than ours.


It's an argument that has been done to death by now, but by releasing some of the "top" players at the club, i.e. USA, Lita, Murty etc. it undoubtedly freed up more money to pay our remaining players' wages.

I don't think there is any doubt that these players, had they have stayed, would have improved our squad - we can all see that Lita is banging them in for Boro'.

He could be banging them in here, but then at the same time, we could be forced into releasing press statements saying that "Whilst we are tremendously grateful that leroy lita has scored half a dozen goals this season, and no doubt he is very happy with his extremely lucrative deal, it is with regret that the club has been unable to pay any of the other staff or players' wages. We hope the fans are happy with lita's goals, because he is the only player left who we can pay, so therefore he will be starting on his own, yes completely on his own, in all matches after xmas, because unless we can magic some money from somewhere, the club will have gone bust before new year"

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by papereyes » 08 Dec 2009 11:07

I just looked up Rasiak's stats for us.

Currently on 5 goals in 7 starts, 6 subs appearances. That ain't bad. First few games, yes, he didn't score so what's more reassuring is that now he's got his oar in, it seems to be a scoring on a regular basis.

If Church can get to double figures, or a proportional tally (if injured, for example), then that's a good return from the youngster.

It's just that a decent strike force needs 3 or 4 goal threats. We currently seem to have 1, plus a raw Church then Long (FAT), Hunt (dead), Mooney (bobbins).

If we talking about options, having, say, Mooney and not using him makes him an irrelevence - he's not an option. Having Long but having to put up with him waddling around the pitch like an FFF reservist makes him an irrelevence. They need to contribute.

We need a striker that compliments both Church and Rasiak - someone fast, direct and a bit of a goal-poacher would be my suggestion.


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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by papereyes » 08 Dec 2009 11:09

Actually, it could work with 1 or 2 goal threats and players that were respected as being creative.

But Reading fans would soon complain that they don't score enough.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by friday fan » 08 Dec 2009 12:07

I've been posting options for quite a while now. I live in aussie and I see players in the A league week in week out and some of them could do a job and on the cheap. The domestic competition effectively ends in febuary so here is is a list who could do a job and who need to get a club to prepare for world cup selection.

Matt Symons, Central Coast Mariners - tall and in the Kitson mould

Shayne Smeltz Gold Coast- tall, live wire and good goal poacher

Archie Thompson Melbourne - a poor man's Jermaine defoe but good enough for championship

three very good options, all on loan till end of season meets cut the cloth talk and wages definately not a problem

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Wycombe Royal » 08 Dec 2009 12:21

If you look at the players that go to the A League from here it shows that the level isn't that great. THese players will not be up to the required standard of the Championship and it will take them a while to get used to it. Loan deals don't provide that time, you need players whocan come in and just get on with it.

Thorvaldsson has been around a bit and has played football in a few countries so this will not be an issue for him.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Royalee » 08 Dec 2009 12:23

Wycombe Royal If you look at the players that go to the A League from here it shows that the level isn't that great. THese players will not be up to the required standard of the Championship and it will take them a while to get used to it. Loan deals don't provide that time, you need players whocan come in and just get on with it.

Thorvaldsson has been around a bit and has played football in a few countries so this will not be an issue for him.


Agreed.


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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Sun Tzu » 08 Dec 2009 12:31

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Sun Tzu If you pick Kitson at his best then he's clearly better than Rasiak.

The Kitson we had on loan last season was not a better player than the Rasiak we have now.

I'd take a forward who scores goals over one who didn't, given the option !

And if we never have the budget to pay for players how did we manage to get Rasiak (who seems to be in decent goal scoring form ) and MAcAnuff, who seems to be setting the goals up ?

I always find RoyalBlue good for a laugh, even if he's posts often appear to have been placed on the wrong club's board due to some glitch in hyperspace. I suspect he's really an Orient fan or something and has misfiled a link in his Favourites


Better good for a laugh than a complete joke!

Of course we have a budget but the one your hero has set is completely unrealistic for success and possibly even survival at this level. Just look at the quality of players we have let go, compared with those that now populate our squad. And, guess what, the clubs they went to are doing far better than ours.

Hopefully when Madejski finally realises that he can't have his cake (fame and adulation) and eat it (retrieve the money he spent in getting the former) and pisses off, you will still be firmly stuck up his backside and unable to escape in time.

As for misfiled links - shouldn't yours be directing you to Madejski's facebook?


The day will come when RB shocks us and replies to a post with something relevant rather than his tired old cynicism !

My 'hero' has no link to RFC, so why you keep dragging Bob Dylan into it I have no idea.

Your hatred for Madejski is sad, and your twisting of facts bizarre.

You'd save yourself and the rest of us a lot of pain if you lived up to your claim that you were going off to watch park football if there is absolutely nothing about RFC that you like.

Those of us who have a better balance in our views on life at the Mad Stad would be happy to chip in for a farewell gift.... Go on, give us all a Happy Christmas and annouce you are off to become a Hellenic League fan....

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Ian Royal » 08 Dec 2009 13:07

papereyes I just looked up Rasiak's stats for us.

Currently on 5 goals in 7 starts, 6 subs appearances. That ain't bad. First few games, yes, he didn't score so what's more reassuring is that now he's got his oar in, it seems to be a scoring on a regular basis.

If Church can get to double figures, or a proportional tally (if injured, for example), then that's a good return from the youngster.

It's just that a decent strike force needs 3 or 4 goal threats. We currently seem to have 1, plus a raw Church then Long (FAT), Hunt (dead), Mooney (bobbins).

If we talking about options, having, say, Mooney and not using him makes him an irrelevence - he's not an option. Having Long but having to put up with him waddling around the pitch like an FFF reservist makes him an irrelevence. They need to contribute.

We need a striker that compliments both Church and Rasiak - someone fast, direct and a bit of a goal-poacher would be my suggestion.


Couple of genuine chuckles to be had there. And a good post.

I'd say Sig is proving to be a decent goal threat and could potentially get up around the 10 goals mark, in fact I'd say he's moer likely than Church to get there currently. That's good for a midfielder. If Kebe, Marek or McAnuff can chip in with a few more then our goal threat looks a lot better, even with only Rasiak (of the strikers) scoring.

Idealy though, we need Long to sod off, Mooney to sod off or be used and at least one new striker who looks like scoring semi regularly.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Broxroyal » 08 Dec 2009 13:18

I still think Robson Kanu will ultimately make a better central striker than wide player, so I'd like to see us try that option.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by papereyes » 08 Dec 2009 13:26

The kids aren't necessarily alright.

Take Scott Davies - sure, he looks good for Wycombe but was genuinely out of his depth at the start of the season. Maybe he'll grow into a role, but we mustn't rely on it.

Hal Robson-Kanu has only had a handful of chances but ... well ... if he scored a bit more in the lower leagues, then I'd have more faith in him.


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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by floyd__streete » 26 Dec 2009 18:54

**Bump**

Long and Rasiak absolute dog sh*t again today. That's why we're going down.....

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 26 Dec 2009 20:15

Really disapointed with LOng who I thought had his best game is ages at BRistol.

TErrible today though.

We need a striker who unlike the Icelandic we know can do it in this country at this level. To be honest we need 2 but that aint happening.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Royalee » 26 Dec 2009 20:17

Smoking Kills Dancing Doe Really disapointed with LOng who I thought had his best game is ages at BRistol.

:shock: Which bit stood out for you at Ashton Gate? Where he got caught offside half a dozen times or the sitter he missed where he turned away to face his own goal when he was clean through?
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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 26 Dec 2009 20:22

Royalee
Smoking Kills Dancing Doe Really disapointed with LOng who I thought had his best game is ages at BRistol.

:shock: Which bit stood out for you at Ashton Gate? Where he got caught offside half a dozen times or the sitter he missed where he turned away to oxf*rd his own goal when he was clean through?


COmpared to today.

Nah he was alright,pulled our centre halves out of posistion, but Rasiak is not a fill the gaps player.

LOng as nothing more than a battering ram should do a job,I say SHOULD.

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Wimb » 26 Dec 2009 20:24

The question is what happened with Long over the summer?

Was he told by BR or maybe even SSC that he should bulk up? has the pressure of being the only 1 of the 4 strikers from the PL era become too much? Has he just got too big for his boots?

As much as he's been slated on here for years the fact is he still managed goals at this level and above. I'm just gutted the lad hasnt kicked on

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 26 Dec 2009 20:28

Big difference between bulking up and smashing the life outt of the Pizza Buffett after training though....

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Re: Worst attacking options since January 2000

by Pseud O'Nym » 26 Dec 2009 20:30

Wimb The question is what happened with Long over the summer?

Was he told by BR or maybe even SSC that he should bulk up? has the pressure of being the only 1 of the 4 strikers from the PL era become too much? Has he just got too big for his boots?

As much as he's been slated on here for years the fact is he still managed goals at this level and above. I'm just gutted the lad hasnt kicked on


I think I read somewhere that he'd got into boxing? Probably not the most compatible training regime.

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