New Football League Rule

[JC]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8729294.stm

The League have brought in a new rule which says that every club must have at least 10 "home-grown" players over 21 in a squad of 25. They can have as many under 21 as they like.
Home-grown appears to being registered for 3 seasons before reaching 21.

Anybody care to work out how many we have?

[brendywendy]

when they say homegrown they do mean in the uk, not at RFC dont they?


if so, its pretty much our entire squad barring kebe, cisse and matejovski......

[NR_Royal]

I imagine pretty much all of the squad bar Kébé, Long, Cissé, Ingi, Matejovsky plus a few others are HG?

[Ian Royal]

What happens if you've got fewer than 10 players over 21? The way that's worded it seems you'd be in trouble. Unlikely I know, but still, it's almost punishing a team for having a very young squad.

I make qualifiers: Armstrong, Mills, Tabb, Hunt, McAnuff, Church, Hamer, Pearce, Andersen, & Howard. Which is exactly 10. Oh and possibly Williams who isn't on the squad list yet.

Henry, Karacan, Sigurdsson, Robson-Kanu & Cummings I think all borderline old enough and I can't be arsed to work it out from the start of the season and based on their birth month. Long possibly missing out by a matter of a few months. Bignall, Taylor et al under 21 so judging by the article don't qualify.

Not qualifying:

Federici, Cisse, Gunnarsson, Matejovsky, Long, Ingimarsson, Mooney, Kebe & Rasiak.

[Urinal Mint]

What happens if you've got fewer than 10 players over 21? The way that's worded it seems you'd be in trouble. Unlikely I know, but still, it's almost punishing a team for having a very young squad.

I make qualifiers: Armstrong, Mills, Tabb, Hunt, McAnuff, Church, Hamer, Pearce, Andersen, & Howard. Which is exactly 10. Oh and possibly Williams who isn't on the squad list yet.

Henry, Karacan, Sigurdsson, Robson-Kanu & Cummings I think all borderline old enough and I can't be arsed to work it out from the start of the season and based on their birth month. Long possibly missing out by a matter of a few months. Bignall, Taylor et al under 21 so judging by the article don't qualify.

Not qualifying:

Federici, Cisse, Gunnarsson, Matejovsky, Long, Ingimarsson, Mooney, Kebe & Rasiak.

Noel Hunt, Mikkel Andersen

[Ian Royal]

What about them? They're both on the list. Might have got Hunt wrong, didn't check where he started his career. Edit - Scotland. Bloody stupid brother.

I thought Andersen had been here longer than 3 years, and he's just about old enough. EDIT - Ok, might miss out by not being with us long enough by one month.

[AthleticoSpizz]

seemples...from Prem to Conference

radical but

have as many foreign born players as you like in your squad/academy/injured table

But you can only field 5 or maybe 6 of them each game (including subs)

In a couple of seasons the England team will start seeing more than the usual suspects/crocks/overpaid celebrities

[Sun Tzu]

seemples...from Prem to Conference

radical but

have as many foreign born players as you like in your squad/academy/injured table

But you can only field 5 or maybe 6 of them each game (including subs)

In a couple of seasons the England team will start seeing more than the usual suspects/crocks/overpaid celebrities

Wasn't that the original rule that had to be scrapped because it is illegal (restraint of trade).

[AthleticoSpizz]

seemples...from Prem to Conference

radical but

have as many foreign born players as you like in your squad/academy/injured table

But you can only field 5 or maybe 6 of them each game (including subs)

In a couple of seasons the England team will start seeing more than the usual suspects/crocks/overpaid celebrities

Wasn't that the original rule that had to be scrapped because it is illegal (restraint of trade).

new government...new rules of engagement

Joking aside, where is that "restraint of trade"?...clubs and their human rightests can pay as many wages as they like to their foreign born players....they just cannot field them all at the same time in the English leagues.
A tough ask but for the good of English football....maybe a long term necessity

[NR_Royal]

seemples...from Prem to Conference

radical but

have as many foreign born players as you like in your squad/academy/injured table

But you can only field 5 or maybe 6 of them each game (including subs)

In a couple of seasons the England team will start seeing more than the usual suspects/crocks/overpaid celebrities

Wasn't that the original rule that had to be scrapped because it is illegal (restraint of trade).

new government...new rules of engagement

Joking aside, where is that "restraint of trade"?...clubs and their human rightests can pay as many wages as they like to their foreign born players....they just cannot field them all at the same time in the English leagues.
A tough ask but for the good of English football....maybe a long term necessity

A little something known as the EU free movement of labour.

[Ian Royal]

Well we are part of the EU, and we're talking about football in the UK.

[Ian Royal]

we are part of the EU

Maybe you should get out before it's too late..

I'm happy sticking with economic powerhouse Germany over Norway thanks.

[Royal With Cheese]

I'm happy sticking with economic powerhouse Germany over Norway thanks.

Should I be whooshed here?

[Barry the bird boggler]

As has been mentioned we are well safe on this as I think is every league club in the country so not exactly a hardship for anyone.

[Messiah]

As has been mentioned we are well safe on this as I think is every league club in the country so not exactly a hardship for anyone.

'greed. It's the Premiership clubs that like a foreign cheapy that will find it harder to adjust. I think it;'s a good rule, but as you say, it doesn't overly affect anyone in tier 2, 3 or 4.

[JC]

What happens if you've got fewer than 10 players over 21? The way that's worded it seems you'd be in trouble. Unlikely I know, but still, it's almost punishing a team for having a very young squad.

I make qualifiers: Armstrong, Mills, Tabb, Hunt, McAnuff, Church, Hamer, Pearce, Andersen, & Howard. Which is exactly 10. Oh and possibly Williams who isn't on the squad list yet.

Henry, Karacan, Sigurdsson, Robson-Kanu & Cummings I think all borderline old enough and I can't be arsed to work it out from the start of the season and based on their birth month. Long possibly missing out by a matter of a few months. Bignall, Taylor et al under 21 so judging by the article don't qualify.

Not qualifying:

Federici, Cisse, Gunnarsson, Matejovsky, Long, Ingimarsson, Mooney, Kebe & Rasiak.

Is this quite as clear cut as you suggest?
Take Mikel Andersen as an example. He was 21 on 17th December 2009. He was first registered on 1st January 2007 so he had not had 3 seasons registered by the time he got to 21.
On the same basis I don't think Jobi McAnuff qualifies either

Or am I misinterpreting what it says?

Noel Hunt had only been registerd in Scotland for a few months when he was 21

[Wycombe Royal]

What happens if you've got fewer than 10 players over 21? The way that's worded it seems you'd be in trouble. Unlikely I know, but still, it's almost punishing a team for having a very young squad.

I make qualifiers: Armstrong, Mills, Tabb, Hunt, McAnuff, Church, Hamer, Pearce, Andersen, & Howard. Which is exactly 10. Oh and possibly Williams who isn't on the squad list yet.

Henry, Karacan, Sigurdsson, Robson-Kanu & Cummings I think all borderline old enough and I can't be arsed to work it out from the start of the season and based on their birth month. Long possibly missing out by a matter of a few months. Bignall, Taylor et al under 21 so judging by the article don't qualify.

Not qualifying:

Federici, Cisse, Gunnarsson, Matejovsky, Long, Ingimarsson, Mooney, Kebe & Rasiak.

Is this quite as clear cut as you suggest?
Take Mikel Andersen as an example. He was 21 on 17th December 2009. He was first registered on 1st January 2007 so he had not had 3 seasons registered by the time he got to 21.
On the same basis I don't think Jobi McAnuff qualifies either

Or am I misinterpreting what it says?

Noel Hunt had only been registerd in Scotland for a few months when he was 21

Yes I think it is clear cut.

Mikkel Anderson is a couple of weeks short of qualifying as home grown, Jobi McAnuff was born in England so I'm sure he qualifies even if he didn't register before he was 18 because he didn't come from another country and Noel Hunt was registered in Ireland and then Scotland so he definately doesn't qualify.

[JC]

What happens if you've got fewer than 10 players over 21? The way that's worded it seems you'd be in trouble. Unlikely I know, but still, it's almost punishing a team for having a very young squad.

I make qualifiers: Armstrong, Mills, Tabb, Hunt, McAnuff, Church, Hamer, Pearce, Andersen, & Howard. Which is exactly 10. Oh and possibly Williams who isn't on the squad list yet.

Henry, Karacan, Sigurdsson, Robson-Kanu & Cummings I think all borderline old enough and I can't be arsed to work it out from the start of the season and based on their birth month. Long possibly missing out by a matter of a few months. Bignall, Taylor et al under 21 so judging by the article don't qualify.

Not qualifying:

Federici, Cisse, Gunnarsson, Matejovsky, Long, Ingimarsson, Mooney, Kebe & Rasiak.

Is this quite as clear cut as you suggest?
Take Mikel Andersen as an example. He was 21 on 17th December 2009. He was first registered on 1st January 2007 so he had not had 3 seasons registered by the time he got to 21.
On the same basis I don't think Jobi McAnuff qualifies either

Or am I misinterpreting what it says?

Noel Hunt had only been registerd in Scotland for a few months when he was 21

Yes I think it is clear cut.

Mikkel Anderson is a couple of weeks short of qualifying as home grown, Jobi McAnuff was born in England so I'm sure he qualifies even if he didn't register before he was 18 because he didn't come from another country and Noel Hunt was registered in Ireland and then Scotland so he definately doesn't qualify.

Soccerbase shows Jobi McAnuff's nationality as Jamaican and I guess Andersen does not qualify even if only by a few weeks. On your figures that means we are now down to a maximum of 8.

[Wycombe Royal]

Is this quite as clear cut as you suggest?
Take Mikel Andersen as an example. He was 21 on 17th December 2009. He was first registered on 1st January 2007 so he had not had 3 seasons registered by the time he got to 21.
On the same basis I don't think Jobi McAnuff qualifies either

Or am I misinterpreting what it says?

Noel Hunt had only been registerd in Scotland for a few months when he was 21

Yes I think it is clear cut.

Mikkel Anderson is a couple of weeks short of qualifying as home grown, Jobi McAnuff was born in England so I'm sure he qualifies even if he didn't register before he was 18 because he didn't come from another country and Noel Hunt was registered in Ireland and then Scotland so he definately doesn't qualify.

Soccerbase shows Jobi McAnuff's nationality as Jamaican and I guess Andersen does not qualify even if only by a few weeks. On your figures that means we are now down to a maximum of 8.

McAnuff was born in Edmonton, a suburb of London.

Qualifying players:

Chris Armstrong
Matthew Mills
Jay Tabb
Jobi McAnuff
James Henry
Marcus Williams
Simon Church
Hal Robson-Kanu
Jem Karacan
Ben Hamer
Alex Pearce
Scott Davies
Brian Howard
Shaun Cummings

That makes 14.

[Millsy]

Norway is far richer than Germany isn't it? Anyway what's that got to do with this...

Great news for English footy. If only we could put a similar restriction on other professionals too eg nurses, doctors, IT etc... we'd see less home grown talent that we've paid 1000s to train sitting jobless because someone who can't even speak the language has paid their way through a dodgy foreign university, paid a company to a fill in a misleadingly good application form only to send the money out of our economy...

(I'm allowed to say all that - son of immigrants)