EngLOLand - The Backlash!

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Just +1 this and resign yourself to the fact that the reason Premiership Football is so successful, will forever mean that out National team will forever fail.

S'right. As evidenced by the fact that we never qualified at all in 1974 and 1978 and didn't have to qualify in 1970 as we were the holders or 1966 as we were the hosts.

Winning in 1966 was perhaps the worst thing that happened to English football.

If we'd failed then we might have taken a long hard look at how we run football in this country. Instead it let a whole generation believe that English football is the best in the world, and the English way of doing things is best.

We pretty much got away with if for another 30 years because teams outside the established nations were crap, and beating the likes of the USA and Slovenia was a piece of piss. The whole middle order of world football has stepped up a gear since then though, and they are probably now as near to us as we are to the genuine challengers.

[Arch]

This is right. The rest of the world, old guard and newcomers alike, still have to figure out a way of overcoming the big four, but right now we're on a par with the likes of Mexico, South Korea, and the Ivory Coast in that challenge rather than say Holland or Spain.

[The Prisoner]

The worst thing about today is that I don't feel anything.

After previous eliminations I have been gutted, but today I had exactly the same empty/switched off feeling as I did walking away from Wembley after the Croatia game in 2007 - we got what we deserved: sweet FA.

Time was there was a feeling of injustice about going out. We would play well and lose on penalties. Today we were just dump. Forget the Lampard "goal" - it wouldn't have changed much. Schoolboy defending, a complete lack of cutting edge (Rooney not on form - one striker carries us normally), no passion and resorting to Heskey when 4-1 down rendered the blind Uruguayan's error irrelevant.

I am in my late 30s now and watching England used to be exciting and full of hope. Now my expectations are zero on the back of spineless two dimensional nomarks and corporate hype (please take that embarrassing Carlsberg ad off now).

Fans need to relate to what happens on the pitch. Nobody likes to lose, but we can all accept it if we try hard and make an effort. I suspect that very few fans are angry about going out tonight - they will be more confused about a new disaffected feeling of having spent time and money to watch something they don't understand and cannot relate to.

[comeonyouroyals]

The worst thing about today is that I don't feel anything.

After previous eliminations I have been gutted, but today I had exactly the same empty/switched off feeling as I did walking away from Wembley after the Croatia game in 2007 - we got what we deserved: sweet FA.

Time was there was a feeling of injustice about going out. We would play well and lose on penalties. Today we were just dump. Forget the Lampard "goal" - it wouldn't have changed much. Schoolboy defending, a complete lack of cutting edge (Rooney not on form - one striker carries us normally), no passion and resorting to Heskey when 4-1 down rendered the blind Uruguayan's error irrelevant.

I am in my late 30s now and watching England used to be exciting and full of hope. Now my expectations are zero on the back of spineless two dimensional nomarks and corporate hype (please take that embarrassing Carlsberg ad off now).

Fans need to relate to what happens on the pitch. Nobody likes to lose, but we can all accept it if we try hard and make an effort. I suspect that very few fans are angry about going out tonight - they will be more confused about a new disaffected feeling of having spent time and money to watch something they don't understand and cannot relate to.

Very well Put and exactly how I feel.

[Ups and Downs]

The worst thing about today is that I don't feel anything.

After previous eliminations I have been gutted, but today I had exactly the same empty/switched off feeling as I did walking away from Wembley after the Croatia game in 2007 - we got what we deserved: sweet FA.

Time was there was a feeling of injustice about going out. We would play well and lose on penalties. Today we were just dump. Forget the Lampard "goal" - it wouldn't have changed much. Schoolboy defending, a complete lack of cutting edge (Rooney not on form - one striker carries us normally), no passion and resorting to Heskey when 4-1 down rendered the blind Uruguayan's error irrelevant.

I am in my late 30s now and watching England used to be exciting and full of hope. Now my expectations are zero on the back of spineless two dimensional nomarks and corporate hype (please take that embarrassing Carlsberg ad off now).

Fans need to relate to what happens on the pitch. Nobody likes to lose, but we can all accept it if we try hard and make an effort. I suspect that very few fans are angry about going out tonight - they will be more confused about a new disaffected feeling of having spent time and money to watch something they don't understand and cannot relate to.

Very well Put and exactly how I feel.

And exactly what i was trying to say.

[andrew1957]

The worst thing about today is that I don't feel anything.

After previous eliminations I have been gutted, but today I had exactly the same empty/switched off feeling as I did walking away from Wembley after the Croatia game in 2007 - we got what we deserved: sweet FA.

Time was there was a feeling of injustice about going out. We would play well and lose on penalties. Today we were just dump. Forget the Lampard "goal" - it wouldn't have changed much. Schoolboy defending, a complete lack of cutting edge (Rooney not on form - one striker carries us normally), no passion and resorting to Heskey when 4-1 down rendered the blind Uruguayan's error irrelevant.

I am in my late 30s now and watching England used to be exciting and full of hope. Now my expectations are zero on the back of spineless two dimensional nomarks and corporate hype (please take that embarrassing Carlsberg ad off now).

Fans need to relate to what happens on the pitch. Nobody likes to lose, but we can all accept it if we try hard and make an effort. I suspect that very few fans are angry about going out tonight - they will be more confused about a new disaffected feeling of having spent time and money to watch something they don't understand and cannot relate to.

+1

It feels really strange but I am just finding it hard to feel bothered. I think it is a disgrace that we do not have an English manager and Capello's tactics were little short of an embarrassment. No wonder Terry felt he had to go public! If Harry Rednapp had been manager or Hodgson at least we might have played with some pride.

Today was nothing short of a disgrace.

[under the tin]

Ian Botham once said "Form is temporary, class is permanent"

The game yesterday showed the alternative view.

Too much has been made of the lampard "no goal".
Germany's first goal set the theme for the game as a whole. Their keeper punts it straight down the middle of the pitch, it bounces twice, our central defenders were further apart than Jordan's legs on a saturday night, and their striker flicks the ball past our keeper. Park football.
We nearly got a new arsehole torn in us several times more before half time, but in the second half, the Germans made us pay for our wastefulness in possession, lack of pace, and positional awareness.
Germany were good value for 3 goals better than us.


England. The £100 million pound pub team.

[bobbybottler]

The worst thing about today is that I don't feel anything.

After previous eliminations I have been gutted, but today I had exactly the same empty/switched off feeling as I did walking away from Wembley after the Croatia game in 2007 - we got what we deserved: sweet FA.

Time was there was a feeling of injustice about going out. We would play well and lose on penalties. Today we were just dump. Forget the Lampard "goal" - it wouldn't have changed much. Schoolboy defending, a complete lack of cutting edge (Rooney not on form - one striker carries us normally), no passion and resorting to Heskey when 4-1 down rendered the blind Uruguayan's error irrelevant.

I am in my late 30s now and watching England used to be exciting and full of hope. Now my expectations are zero on the back of spineless two dimensional nomarks and corporate hype (please take that embarrassing Carlsberg ad off now).

Fans need to relate to what happens on the pitch. Nobody likes to lose, but we can all accept it if we try hard and make an effort. I suspect that very few fans are angry about going out tonight - they will be more confused about a new disaffected feeling of having spent time and money to watch something they don't understand and cannot relate to.

+1

It feels really strange but I am just finding it hard to feel bothered. I think it is a disgrace that we do not have an English manager and Capello's tactics were little short of an embarrassment. No wonder Terry felt he had to go public! If Harry Rednapp had been manager or Hodgson at least we might have played with some pride.

Today was nothing short of a disgrace.

I am still baffled as to why people think it's disgrace that the manager isn't English - surely one would want the best person for the job?

[Stretts]

I would have thought it must be frustrating when due to language barriers, the manager cannot even express himself properly to the players, despite his track record, which incidentally is not in England with English players.

[soggy biscuit]

Its only us that think England are any good anyway. We are an average side that should lower our expectations and be happy to get to the last 16. We have no right to assume that we are good enough to go forwards as we have NEVER proved this.

Terrible performance, nothing of note out there today, but maybe this will make the country realise we are on a par with lesser international teams, not the big boys

A freaking men sister, truest thing I have read on here.

Still, not qualifying for the Euro's, failing to beat USA, Algeria & Germany and putting 1 goal past Slovenia will not stop this country's inbreds believing England are one of the best footballing nations out there

EngLOLand, the gift that never stops giving

[Nick Shorey my Lord!]

After the Algerian game I said:

Club > country. Whether we like it or not. Dare I say, one of the reasons our players perform so well for their club is because they play with a wide variety of top class international players. In fact, are they any good at all? Average players in high performing teams?

Regardless, there really were some diabolical performances but special praise should go to Rooney and Johnson; a pair of rapists when it came to their touches.

If there is one scrap of comfort it's that we didn't lose and at no point did Algeria ever look like scoring, although the god-awful commentry would have you think otherwise.

Oh, and someone said this was the worst performance? Check out our EURO 88 campaign; that was BAAAAAAD.

So, remove the 3rd paragraph and that summed up the game.

[soggy biscuit]

David Blaine is reported to be upset this morning as his record of doing f**k all in a box for 42 days has been broken by Wayne Rooney

[Maguire]

I actually don't think we were as bad as everyone is making out.

LOL at the hysteria though

[soggy biscuit]

The "golden" generation have had their chances.

'The Golden Generation' has been used to describe the England team since Euro 96.

[Schards#2]

I actually don't think we were as bad as everyone is making out.

LOL at the hysteria though

Seriously?

Defensively, I would be horrified if Reading played that badly. Completely torn to pieces time and again and totally all over the shop.

[Maguire]

Poor at the back but had plenty of the game. Clearly made it 2-2 then got hit on the break pushing for the equaliser.

The big problem was the inability to pick up the German runners coming from deep (Ozil, Podolski, Moeller) but other than that I thought England played "okay" and the two breakaway goals put a gloss on the scoreline.

At 2-2 and confidence flowing you'd have had a totally different game to the one that we saw - 9 players forward for Lampards free-kick = alarm bells.

Still, they're all pcunts anyway so what do I care

[Negative_Jeff]

It`s all our fault, English football supporters. The Mad Stad crowd wouldn`t accept Mark McGhee`s methods today even if we were winning. 4-4-2 it has to be, knock it long, good tempo and press high up the pitch. It is the same from the England team down to the poorly coached kids at the six a side event that I attended last week.
All may not be lost however. On visiting my son`s new pad in a quiet West London backwater on saturday evening there was a group of kids having an impromptu kickabout in the street. This is a rare event indeed, I just had to join in.

[soggy biscuit]

South African police have confirmed that they have experienced some serious problems with drug trafficking during the world cup, this is expected to improve with the departure of John Terry's family this week.

[Hoop Blah]

To moan about that goal is to forget that we got beat by 3 clear goals.

Had that goal been awarded then we would have played a different game and Germany would not have been able to counter attack like they did.

&

LOL @ anyone thinking that had Lamps goal been allowed then it would have been different story.

It would have made it a different game, because England would have thrown fewer players forward with the scores level. They still would have lost, but with a different score and in a different way.

It would've made it a different game yes, but Germany were already picking us off on the break before they'd even got the first goal.

Our midfield left both fullbacks exposed, and to make matters worse, both fullbacks were pushing on quite a bit and leaving massive gaps.

Not awarding the goal changed the why the game panned out, but we were already being hit on the counter and, despite the lions share of possession, looking very vunerable at the back so I don't think it effected the ultimate result.

I still don't

[papereyes]

Just +1 this and resign yourself to the fact that the reason Premiership Football is so successful, will forever mean that out National team will forever fail.

S'right. As evidenced by the fact that we never qualified at all in 1974 and 1978 and didn't have to qualify in 1970 as we were the holders or 1966 as we were the hosts.

Equally during the mid to late 70s, English clubs dominated Europe somewhat.