QPR points deduction?

[T.R.O.L.I.]

I reckon they'll get enough of a points deduction not to affect the standings (i.e. if the season finished now they'd get no more than a 8 point deduction).

Or am I being too cynical?

[Mr Optimist]

Anyone else think it could be a Chelsea style ban from making any signings in the transfer window type punishment. Which will probably be pointless as they will still allow them to make loan signings with a view to a permanent move etc.

I don't think there will be any points deducted.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

They will be found not guilty, and there will therefore be no punishment.

[Svlad Cjelli]

I have no idea how this will pan out. All I do know is that one of the charges is that they have falsified evidence to knowingly cover up the paper trail.

So if they are found guilty - and it's very much "IF" - I would expect the punishment to be a severe one.

That charge alone suggests that they knew what they were doing and tried to cover their tracks, which is quite different from the usual situation in charges like this where clubs have got paperwork wrong or haven't waited to receive international clearance paperwork from other countries.

[Royal Rother]

Indeed. If that one is proved, God knows how they'll deal with all the ramification on the play-offs but surely the highest level QPR could be playing at next season is in the Championship.

Anything else would be ridiculous.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Indeed. If that one is proved, God knows how they'll deal with all the ramification on the play-offs but surely the highest level QPR could be playing at next season is in the Championship.

Anything else would be ridiculous.

Absolutely correct RR, too mnay doubts though.

[Corky341]

Would it be surprising if their punishment =
QPR's point total at the time of the announcement - the point total of the 3rd place team at the time + 1?

Meaning they would be stripped of the title but still be given auto-promotion to the prem?

Exactly what I think. The FA can sleep easy that QPR have been punished, and Rangers fans won't be fire-bombing FA HQ.

[Silver Fox]

If they get hit with an ineffective points deuduction they might as well not bother TBH

[Mr Angry]

This has all the signs of being a classic FA fudge IMHO; leaving it this late (why?) leaves them open to pressures of needing to make a judgement based on other things apart from the charges in front of them (such as disruption to the play-offs etc etc).

Unless QPR can prove that there are some pretty powerful extenuating circumstances, they should lose all the points they gained whilst playing an ineligible player, but the FA won't have the cojones to do that, so I suspect a massive fine with a suspended points sentence will be the outcome.

[PieEater]

I'd hate them to get docked points if Swansea or Cardiff benefitted from it, the English FA doing the Welsh teams a favour.

A better scenario if they were 3rd and a couple of points behind Cardiff would be for the FA to award them 3 points as an apology for the stress caused to the team.

Not that I'm bitter about Cardiff's preferential treatment from the FAW or anything.

[andrew1957]

IMO the FA either has to take 25 points off QPR to put them right out of the top 6 - or none at all.

It would be grossly unfair on the other three play off teams if QPR end in the play offs - as they are the best team in the division and it would put the other three at a massive disadvantage.

Also it would be pointless deducting some points so they ended up second as Norwich (most likely) would then end up with a hollow victory as winners of the division.

My guess is that they will get a big fine and no points deduction at all unless the crimes are extreme and admitted by QPR and then a 25 point deduction would seem appropriate. Otherwise this will all end in Court and we won't know who will be in the PL next season. What a mess!

[loyalroyal4life]

IF they are found guilty it will be fine/points deduction starting next season

[Z175]

Hang on. What position would QPR be if they hadn't played this guy and stuck with leigertwood? I can tell you, 1st. Tevez quite blatantly did enough to squeeze west ham up. But qpr have a big lead and this is just one player in a very good team. If it were taraabt maybe it would be different.

Of course, if they are found guilty then they should be punished, but I would hope financially. Do we really want the mess of legal action destroying the playoffs? Surely the football on the pitch should count. It would be a shame for a club that got promoted with 106points to go up on a legal challenge. And would we feel we deserved it? Would the players feel comfortable in the PL? I'd rather we did the business on the pitch.

[ZacNaloen]

I wonder if the timing is such that, they will already be promoted.


Their punishment will be automatic relegation.

So basically, they won't be promoted.

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

If they fold with the Rooney ban appeal, then they will just prove that they are too weak to make the right decision

Cannot understand why they are leaving it so long -

Rooney fouls up at weekend and 3 days later there's a hearing

QPR get charged with 7 breaches of FA regulations - on 9 March and the hearing isnt until May ??

whilst the QPR case is admittedly more complex, its still a long lead time from charge to hearing


latest promotion odds


QPR 1/200
Norwich 4/7
Cardiff 6/4
Swansea 7/4
Leeds 7/2
Reading 7/2

[Svlad Cjelli]

Hang on. What position would QPR be if they hadn't played this guy and stuck with leigertwood? I can tell you, 1st. Tevez quite blatantly did enough to squeeze west ham up. But qpr have a big lead and this is just one player in a very good team. If it were taraabt maybe it would be different.

Of course, if they are found guilty then they should be punished, but I would hope financially. Do we really want the mess of legal action destroying the playoffs? Surely the football on the pitch should count. It would be a shame for a club that got promoted with 106points to go up on a legal challenge. And would we feel we deserved it? Would the players feel comfortable in the PL? I'd rather we did the business on the pitch.

But the argument is that they'd have won promotion by playing a player that they aren't allowed to play.

[Hampshire Royal]

What surprises me a bit, is that they've carried on playing Faurlan during the time the case has been live.

[ZacNaloen]

By January it was perfectly legal for them to play him.

It was everything before then.

[Barry the bird boggler]

Logically all points earned with him playing before January should be deducted, this is the precedence set in other leagues.

In the real world, they'll be given a suspended fine and told naughty, naughty.

[Royal Lady]

A fine wouldn't affect them as they have loads of money. If there are no repercussions other than a fine, every other team may as well chance their luck and field ineligible players, knowing that if they get caught, they'll get a fine. Makes my blood boil it does.